One more reason why SOD is a legend...

[Superspy]

To anybody who has a Rovers Player subscription, I highly recommend listening to SODs interview put up today pre scunny and blades. Obviously he's asked in depth about the Sheff Utd job and all that crap, but I'm 14 minutes in (its a 22 minute interview) and he is discussing club sizes, taking the club forward, everybody singing off the same hymn sheet etc and he just said this...

\"If we were to become a league 1 club due to the size of the club and where we can actually take it then I'd rather be a well-run, vibrant, playing attractive football, a place where people want to come and watch than throwing all your eggs in one basket and thinking - excuse the language - well its shit or bust...\"

every time he does an interview I just remind myself of how DIFFERENT our manager is to all the rest, and how much better he is for it

[Viking Don]

That's funny as fcuk, I'm gonna listen to him saying it now. I pretty much know how it's going to sound, but I want to hear him say it!  

EDIT: Best one yet. Is there a better manager anywhere in the country?

What a star Sean is I love him!

[RedJ]

Viking Don wrote:

That's funny as fcuk, I'm gonna listen to him saying it now. I pretty much know how it's going to sound, but I want to hear him say it!  

EDIT: Best one yet. Is there a better manager anywhere in the country?

What a star Sean is I love him!

Is there b*llocks


We're in an incredible situation here. We've got the one and only Sean O'Driscoll, and we also have the best chairman in the world, John Ryan. There really, really is only one John Ryan.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Celebrate that we have both indeed.

Lose against Scunny and he better have a good excuse !!

[Snods Shinpad 2]

[Superspy]

haha, thats great.

[Filo]

The fact that every clubs fans that lose/sack their manager, immediately put him on the top of their wanted list speaks volumes, every other club below the prem wants him

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Just listening to the same interview.

As much as he talks sense, acknowledging what we all admitted that the Blades are a big club. Saying he was surprised at the size and following of Leeds, Blades & Owls, he would find it a challenge.

Just my opinion, he sounds restless. I then have to challenge him and ask if he is sufficiently challenged with us. Has he become too comfortable ?

He has the ultimate challenge before him and from here on in he needs to make sure he gets every ounce of effort out of the players and, make sure the message is received by the Donny public.

He's just said that he feels we need to push for the play offs as if it's not a realistic goal. That's my only problem. If he doesn't give the impression that it is realistic how can we ALL get behind it.

For once, I'd like him to say he's not satisfied with the top half, or surviving, he wants to pitch his wits against the Warnocks, the Dave Jones' etc and just see where it takes us.

Come on Sean, lead us and we will follow !!

[Superspy]

i think the problem there lies in the difference between agreeing with what he's all about and understanding what he's all about.

where you see restlessness, i see realism and acceptance.

i don't think he sees goals as being either realistic or unrealistic, more that they are something to aim at irrespective of what they are. with regards to sheff u, leeds and wednesday, he's right, they are relatively big clubs compared to us. he's being realistic, and he's not going to turn around and say \"sheff utd are tinpot\" because he's not a fan entering into some stupid debate on a forum, he's a manager with a seemingly unbiased opinion towards everything.

he will always be happy with survival, because he doesn't compare the team with others the same way we do, he looks at us and says \"we have  comparatively few resources and a small fanbase....survival is a GOOD achievement...\", this doesn't mean he's not ambitions, it just means he's looking at something from an informed, logical viewpoint rather than an emotional one.

of course i could be entirely wrong and this is all just my take on it :D

[RedJ]

Snods Shinpad 2 wrote:

that's f**kin mint, how'd you make that?

[DubaiRover]

RedJ wrote:

Snods Shinpad 2 wrote:

that's fcukin mint, how'd you make that?

Would look good on a t shirt and the dogs as a car sticker!!

[DearneValleyRover]

DubaiRover wrote:

RedJ wrote:

Snods Shinpad 2 wrote:

that's fcukin mint, how'd you make that?

Would look good on a t shirt and the dogs as a car sticker!!

Totally agree, maybe something Glen (Viva Rovers) can explore, I have a tee and a Retro bag which are excellent quality already off there.

[CusworthRovers]

Superspy wrote:

i think the problem there lies in the difference between agreeing with what he's all about and understanding what he's all about.

where you see restlessness, i see realism and acceptance.

i don't think he sees goals as being either realistic or unrealistic, more that they are something to aim at irrespective of what they are. with regards to sheff u, leeds and wednesday, he's right, they are relatively big clubs compared to us. he's being realistic, and he's not going to turn around and say \"sheff utd are tinpot\" because he's not a fan entering into some stupid debate on a forum, he's a manager with a seemingly unbiased opinion towards everything.

he will always be happy with survival, because he doesn't compare the team with others the same way we do, he looks at us and says \"we have  comparatively few resources and a small fanbase....survival is a GOOD achievement...\", this doesn't mean he's not ambitions, it just means he's looking at something from an informed, logical viewpoint rather than an emotional one.

of course i could be entirely wrong and this is all just my take on it :D

That sounds good enough to me too.

[graingrover]

I heard him saying there was a NEED for everybody to sing from the same song sheet and to avoid mixed messages within the club ( regarding our ambitions).

   This can only mean different messages from the top people whether they be Directors ,the Managing Director or Media Manager.
     
    In the same vein , I was disappointed to hear a comment from our Media Manager recently  that whilst it was great to see 13,600 at the Keepmoat the club can't afford to do that sort of pricing again !I would have thought it is  NOT  for the Media Manager to ' speculate' on such important matters as the promotional pricing  of tickets for Home games!JR should instruct the club staff about who can and who cannot make important statements on issues which are so vital to our support!
      The three main issues which generate interest from fans and ultimately determine the level of support are ;
 statements about  the club's ambitions for the future,
  positive action to strengthen the team in areas all regulare fans can see
  price of tickets ( the Bradford idea or the Chelsea idea)
   
          All fans past present and future are interested in these things and every one should sing from the same song song and be heard loud and clear by the media everywhere!

[CusworthRovers]

DearneValleyRover wrote:

DubaiRover wrote:

RedJ wrote:

Snods Shinpad 2 wrote:

that's fcukin mint, how'd you make that?

Would look good on a t shirt and the dogs as a car sticker!!

Totally agree, maybe something Glen (Viva Rovers) can explore, I have a tee and a Retro bag which are excellent quality already off there.

Mind you, I can see the same headline with a picture of Josef Fritzel though

[DonnyBazR0ver]

n the same vein , I was disappointed to hear a comment from our Media Manager recently that whilst it was great to see 13,600 at the Keepmoat the club can't afford to do that sort of pricing again !I would have thought it is NOT for the Media Manager to ' speculate' on such important matters as the promotional pricing of tickets for Home games!JR should instruct the club staff about who can and who cannot make important statements on issues which are so vital to our support!
The three main issues which generate interest from fans and ultimately determine the level of support are ;
statements about the club's ambitions for the future,
positive action to strengthen the team in areas all regulare fans can see
price of tickets ( the Bradford idea or the Chelsea idea)

All fans past present and future are interested in these things and every one should sing from the same song song and be heard loud and clear by the media everywhere!

Top post. I'm gobsmacked that that's been said and indeed he felt the need to say it. I don't think anyone of sound thinking would expect prices to be dropped to that level again.

It was an exercise to see how the fans responded and to give an indication to the club what motivates people to come. They have had the answer and they now need to act to capture a bigger portion of those 13600 than we currently have.

Comments like that just gives the impression that the club has learned nothing and the media/marketing has gone back in to it's stubborn inactive shell.

[RedJ]

CusworthRovers wrote:

DearneValleyRover wrote:

DubaiRover wrote:

RedJ wrote:

Snods Shinpad 2 wrote:

that's fcukin mint, how'd you make that?

Would look good on a t shirt and the dogs as a car sticker!!

Totally agree, maybe something Glen (Viva Rovers) can explore, I have a tee and a Retro bag which are excellent quality already off there.

Mind you, I can see the same headline with a picture of Josef Fritzel though

I'm beginning to worry about you      

[VivaRovers]

DearneValleyRover wrote:

Snods Shinpad 2 wrote:

...maybe something Glen (Viva Rovers) can explore, I have a tee and a Retro bag which are excellent quality already off there.

Damn straight they are DVR

Only just picked up on this thread. Wouldn't be able to put the whole thing on a tee through the supplier I use. However, could probably do ones with 'The Sodfather' logo on it if Snods Shinpad was happy for me to look into it.

[hoolahoop]

DonnyBazR0ver wrote:

n the same vein , I was disappointed to hear a comment from our Media Manager recently that whilst it was great to see 13,600 at the Keepmoat the club can't afford to do that sort of pricing again !I would have thought it is NOT for the Media Manager to ' speculate' on such important matters as the promotional pricing of tickets for Home games!JR should instruct the club staff about who can and who cannot make important statements on issues which are so vital to our support!
The three main issues which generate interest from fans and ultimately determine the level of support are ;
statements about the club's ambitions for the future,
positive action to strengthen the team in areas all regulare fans can see
price of tickets ( the Bradford idea or the Chelsea idea)

All fans past present and future are interested in these things and every one should sing from the same song song and be heard loud and clear by the media everywhere!

Top post. I'm gobsmacked that that's been said and indeed he felt the need to say it. I don't think anyone of sound thinking would expect prices to be dropped to that level again.

It was an exercise to see how the fans responded and to give an indication to the club what motivates people to come. They have had the answer and they now need to act to capture a bigger portion of those 13600 than we currently have.

Comments like that just gives the impression that the club has learned nothing and the media/marketing has gone back in to it's stubborn inactive shell.

20,000 at the Millenium for the JPT, 25,000+ at Wembley despite the ticket difficulties tells me we already potentially have at least that many. The long haul trip to the Millenium more than exposes the myth that many were only 'glory hunters' doesn't it ?
Different folk go every week due to work patterns, travelling distances etc. the fanbase is much higher than 9/10,000..........we just have to work with it better.
Finally just look at our following at the Britannia for the P/Offs, they were there then too at that level.........IT WILL COME.  B)
We are indeed blessed with JR and the Board, SO'D & RO'K and thre players we currently have ; playing the sort of football that all supporters want to see.
ONWARDS AND UPWARDS.       RTWD

[Nudga]

My thoughts entirely Hoola. Another few seasons at this level will see 12/13k, you only have to go back to the 60s and 70s attendances to see the potential is there and the town grown massively since then. The club just need to realise that we won't get those sorts of crowds with high matchday prices as people will pick and choose their games and go on different saturdays/tuesdays. I would say an adult ticket should cost about £22 or £23 quid at most, we just need to buck the trend and this will be more attractive to likes of myself who don't have a great deal of spare cash, and there are thousands like me.

[RobTheRover]

DonnyBazR0ver wrote:

n the same vein , I was disappointed to hear a comment from our Media Manager recently that whilst it was great to see 13,600 at the Keepmoat the club can't afford to do that sort of pricing again !I would have thought it is NOT for the Media Manager to ' speculate' on such important matters as the promotional pricing of tickets for Home games!JR should instruct the club staff about who can and who cannot make important statements on issues which are so vital to our support!
The three main issues which generate interest from fans and ultimately determine the level of support are ;
statements about the club's ambitions for the future,
positive action to strengthen the team in areas all regulare fans can see
price of tickets ( the Bradford idea or the Chelsea idea)

All fans past present and future are interested in these things and every one should sing from the same song song and be heard loud and clear by the media everywhere!

Top post. I'm gobsmacked that that's been said and indeed he felt the need to say it. I don't think anyone of sound thinking would expect prices to be dropped to that level again.

It was an exercise to see how the fans responded and to give an indication to the club what motivates people to come. They have had the answer and they now need to act to capture a bigger portion of those 13600 than we currently have.

Comments like that just gives the impression that the club has learned nothing and the media/marketing has gone back in to it's stubborn inactive shell.

The media manager may have said it (I didnt see the quote) but I understand this is something which was said by someone  higher up the pecking order.

The whole point of the reduced pricing policy was to prove that if price were taken out of the equation would the Doncastrian public turn out to support the club.  JR dropped prices to the bone in an attempt to prove the theory, possibly too low in hindsight as the cost/value relationship seems to have been lost somewhat.  For ANYONE in the club to use the fact the club made less money with 13,000+ supporters in the ground than with 10,000 at \"full\" price as evidence of why we dont need to cut prices is a spectacular failure to understand the point of the exercise.  The point was never to say ticket prices should be £10 for adults and a quid for everyone else - it was to say that £25/£28 is a barrier to filling the ground, and take the debate from there.

[hoolahoop]

55/56 there were only 3/4 attendances at home less than 10,000 (guess who has updated Donny complete history for Xmas) ; that's just one season 68/69 4th. Div. winning year less than 1/2 dozen sub 10k crowds.
It will come and is coming Nudga, price and market correctly and they will all steam into the KMS, noticed we've also picked up a few disaffected Owls and Blades toorecently..........expect more soon.

[bobjimwilly]

RobTheRover wrote:

For ANYONE in the club to use the fact the club made less money with 13,000+ supporters in the ground than with 10,000 at \"full\" price as evidence of why we dont need to cut prices is a spectacular failure to understand the point of the exercise.  The point was never to say ticket prices should be £10 for adults and a quid for everyone else - it was to say that £25/£28 is a barrier to filling the ground, and take the debate from there.

Exactly!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The media manager may have said it (I didnt see the quote) but I understand this is something which was said by someone higher up the pecking order.

Are we talking about DM again?

Plus, where is the debate now. What lessons have been learned. I know these are questions for the club as thankfully, we were proved right that price is THE major factor that determines attendance.

I still find it quite disgusting that a child of 13 or 14, depending on the category has to pay between £12 and £18. This in itself deters parents from going, so we miss out on 'family' attending.

If the club is a listening club then reduce kids prices afterall, are they not the future of the club?

[Superspy]

just a bump as i've heard O'driscoll come out with another diamond on his latest interview, the ipswich pre match one.

talking about adam lockwood he said \"we try to be staight with him because he's not a player who likes bullshit\"

just thought it might make a few of you chuckle :D

[RedJ]

he's amazing, our Sean :-)