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donnievic

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Gary Woods
« on August 14, 2011, 09:22:01 am by donnievic »
Dont know why alot of fans are having ago at him having the ball passed back to him alot if nothing is on further up field.Would much prefer the defenders pass it him back and keep hold of the ball rather than punt it up field where it becomes more than likely we would be trying to compete for the 2nd ball.Yes sometimes it looks risky when playing it around at the back but in the main they look in control and trying to entice the other team to open up more.

 As for Woods himself i don't think he has done anything wrong in the 3 games so far apart from the 1 goal kick which he tried a quick pass to Muzzy yesterday,and for someone to say he was poor 1st half yesterday is some what of a joke really,can't really be blamed for the goal.

 sum may say he should of come out for it but it was a quality cross which looked like it wasn't going to reach Nolan with 2 other defenders there.His distribution on a whole has got alot better and also produced another class save when tipping Nolan's chip onto the bar.



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Filo

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #1 on August 14, 2011, 09:27:28 am by Filo »
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Dont know why alot of fans are having ago at him having the ball passed back to him alot if nothing is on further up field.Would much prefer the defenders pass it him back and keep hold of the ball rather than punt it up field where it becomes more than likely we would be trying to compete for the 2nd ball.Yes sometimes it looks risky when playing it around at the back but in the main they look in control and trying to entice the other team to open up more.

 As for Woods himself i don't think he has done anything wrong in the 3 games so far apart from the 1 goal kick which he tried a quick pass to Muzzy yesterday,and for someone to say he was poor 1st half yesterday is some what of a joke really,can't really be blamed for the goal.

 sum may say he should of come out for it but it was a quality cross which looked like it wasn't going to reach Nolan with 2 other defenders there.His distribution on a whole has got alot better and also produced another class save when tipping Nolan's chip onto the bar.



point of order! He never got anywhere near Nolan`s chip, kicking it straight out of play when under no pressure whatsoever is schoolboy stuff and his distribution leaves alot to be desired, apart from that he`s not bad ;)

ljm-drfc

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #2 on August 14, 2011, 09:33:10 am by ljm-drfc »
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He never got anywhere near Nolan`s chip


I think you'll find he saved Nolan's chip as you can clearly see on the FLS.

donnievic

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #3 on August 14, 2011, 09:34:44 am by donnievic »
think you should look closely again at that then as i was right behind it,as for the kick out of play maybe he was under no pressure but was trying a quick ball to him rather than taking his time and waiting for their player to cover it

Filo

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #4 on August 14, 2011, 09:37:03 am by Filo »
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He never got anywhere near Nolan`s chip


I think you'll find he saved Nolan's chip as you can clearly see on the FLS.


I have n`t had the benefit of watching the FLS yet, only saw it in real time, if thats the case then I take that comment back

keepmoatman

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #5 on August 14, 2011, 09:40:13 am by keepmoatman »
excellent save from nolans chip ,no doubt about that one :scarf:

GazLaz

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #6 on August 14, 2011, 10:30:52 am by GazLaz »
It was a routine save from Nolan really. Didnt have a lot to do really.

toocheaptogo

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #7 on August 14, 2011, 10:36:10 am by toocheaptogo »
He wasn't best positioned initially to allow that chip, but he did well under the circumstances to back track and get something on the ball.

His distribution does look something different at times, but on current evidence his shot stopping knack is impressive. I'd rather him pass 15yds to nearest defender for those ball playing players to then play the ball as they like, then Woods lose confidence with fans getting on his back aimlessly punting the ball up field and losing possession instantly.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #8 on August 14, 2011, 11:15:28 am by RUPRECHT »
hes gonna be our number 1 this season so get behind him, personally I think he has done well so far.

opinionated old git

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #9 on August 14, 2011, 11:37:51 am by opinionated old git »
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He wasn't best positioned initially to allow that chip, but he did well under the circumstances to back track and get something on the ball.

His distribution does look something different at times, but on current evidence his shot stopping knack is impressive. I'd rather him pass 15yds to nearest defender for those ball playing players to then play the ball as they like, then Woods lose confidence with fans getting on his back aimlessly punting the ball up field and losing possession instantly.


Really???  What evidence is that then? I haven't seen him make a save yet.

Not good enough by a long way at the moment for me. Maybe in a couple of years - I'll bow to greater knowledge within the club on that one. But we can't afford a keeper with L plates and nothing he does at the moment inspires any confidence.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #10 on August 14, 2011, 11:42:16 am by Superspy »
did you go to any matches where he played last season, because he pulled off some fantastic saves then?

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #11 on August 14, 2011, 11:46:51 am by VikingJames »
I'm still unconvinced by Woods. I know he's inexperienced and all that, but it's worrying how poorly he commands his penalty area. At one stage yesterday I thought he had glue on the bottom of his boots as he was rooted to his line for crosses that he really should've been coming for. Surely it can't give the defence much confidence when they know that their GK behind them is unwilling to come off his line for loose balls/aerial balls in the box.

I think Woodsy is a decent shot stopper, but still seems like he's got a lot to learn on some of the other aspects of goalkeeping. Hopefully Sullivan can teach him a thing or two about commanding his box - maybe show him a DVD of the last 20 minutes of the play off final at Wembley when Sullivan came and caught just about everything that entered his penalty box.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #12 on August 14, 2011, 11:56:26 am by steve@dcfd »
Gary Woods is not good enough to be our No. 1 keeper . But like other positions in the team the club appears not to have the funds to improve. So he will be in goal for us, let's hope he can improve his control of the area because yesterday he relied a lot of the time on his defenders instead of taking control.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #13 on August 14, 2011, 11:58:02 am by Superspy »
I'm not sure if people will understand what I'm trying to get at here, but I'd much rather have a keeper who has to rely on his defense, than a defense who have to rely on their keeper.

opinionated old git

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #14 on August 14, 2011, 12:32:21 pm by opinionated old git »
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did you go to any matches where he played last season, because he pulled off some fantastic saves then?


Well I'm a ST holder so yes is the answer.

I'm not writing him off by any stretch but I just don't think he's good enough at the moment and I don't think we can afford a weak goalie.

I'm really excited about the potential of this side (more so than at any time in my 30 years of supporting Rovers). Just think how good a side containing Dumbuya, Friend, Bennett, Baxendale, Bouhenna etc. will be in 2 or 3 years. I hope Woods will be there too! My concern is that we need to keep our championship status in order to keep those lads and we need(ed) a good experienced Championship quality keeper desperately in order to do that.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #15 on August 14, 2011, 12:54:53 pm by grayx »
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Gary Woods is not good enough to be our No. 1 keeper . But like other positions in the team the club appears not to have the funds to improve. So he will be in goal for us, let's hope he can improve his control of the area because yesterday he relied a lot of the time on his defenders instead of taking control.


Totally agree. We should have signed Joe Murphy & loaned out Woods to a lower division side to develop him. I'm not blaming him for yesterdays goal,but against Brighton he was bloody awful at times.

Rover13

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #16 on August 14, 2011, 04:25:35 pm by Rover13 »
But he is our goal keeper and no matter how many times people say ain't good enough or don't like him ain't gunner change fact he is our goal
Keeper I like him personally and think he will be a good goaly for us maybe people should put there thoughts to the side and try and get behind him negativity will only hinder his confidence

MachoMadness

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #17 on August 14, 2011, 04:32:27 pm by MachoMadness »
Can't blame Woods for any of the goals so far. The two against Brighton were quality finishes and yesterday Nolan shouldn't have even been in that position. He's done alright and saved a couple of dead certain goals already. A couple of times he's looked shaky catching crosses but once he manages to keep a couple of clean sheets (it WILL happen!) he'll grow in confidence and iron a few mistakes out.

He's not going to improve any sat on the bench, and we can't afford another goalie, especially not now when we need the fans to donate just so we can loan a striker.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #18 on August 14, 2011, 05:20:25 pm by Sheepskin Stu »
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Can't blame Woods for any of the goals so far. .


I think he should have done better with Brighton's first. Didn't cover his near post very well. I still think he'll turn into a good goalkeeper though.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #19 on August 14, 2011, 05:24:12 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
I thought at the time yesterday that Woods should have come for that floated ball in to the box. I think our defence dithered because you would normally expect your keeper to come for it. May be I was being a bit harsh?

Seeing highlights on DROS the ball was in the air a long time and he should have come for it. If he doesn't have the instinct to come for those sort of balls, then he has more to learn. Defenders hate going back towards goal and you need your keeper to dominate from line to penalty spot at least.

I thought his kicking was generally good. He can pick a 'pass' better than Sulli by chipping balls out to the wings etc. We need to give him more time but for me he was at fault for that one yesterday.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #20 on August 14, 2011, 07:12:48 pm by RobTheRover »
Its a tricky one with Woods, for me.

On the one hand, he is young and will develop.  The basics are all there.

On the other hand how does he develop when he isnt playing?  It is experience he needs, and you can argue about loaning him out, but as we've seen with Muzzy and Bennett, getting thrown in at the deep end works well for some lads.

One to assess after 10 games I reckon.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #21 on August 14, 2011, 08:27:59 pm by wilts rover »
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Can't blame Woods for any of the goals so far. .


I think he should have done better with Brighton's first. Didn't cover his near post very well. I still think he'll turn into a good goalkeeper though.


I think whoever was supposed to be marking Buckley from the free kick didnt do a very good job either - nor did Tommy spurr when he let it through his legs - thus unsighting Woods. Whoever was playing left midfield should also have done better for Buckley's second - because nobody came into tackle him until Friend came across - and he ran far enough, as should whoever was in the centre to cut out Noone's pass to Buckley.

Only saw the WHU goal on FLS but what is Bennet doing when their player wins the ball and crosses it, other than standing looking? And who is tracking back with Nolan?

Gary Woods may not be the best keeper we have ever had, nor the best keeper in the Championship, but putting him down and creating a negative attitude to him is hardly going to help him get better. There are 10 others playing and they all need to help defensively.

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #22 on August 14, 2011, 09:21:12 pm by ravenrover »
You only have to look at SOD to see how frustrated he is with his kicking. Against Tranmere and WHU he was pulling what hair he has left out at Woods inability to kick to an open player. Spurr was unmarked and yet Woods is kicking centre or right the manager was imploring him to kick to Spurr but was being ignored I bet he gets a right roasting from SOD

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Re: Gary Woods
« Reply #23 on August 15, 2011, 09:44:37 am by Alickismyhero »
Supporters will have to accept the back passing to the keeper is very much part of our game now and if you look closely at all the top teams its the same for them.

Poor Woodsy, its not the best part of his game and certainly keeps me on the edge of my seat. The point I would make is that if the supporters dont give him the support he needs his confidence will drop and he will make mistakes. He is coming on and will be a good keeper as the save against Nolan's chip shows.

My message is chill out and dont get on his back he is very young and will come good.

 

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