The 'I'm not going to Barnsley' thread

[Dimples-D]

I stopped going away several years ago because it is too expensive.
I would go to Barnsley if it was a tenner or less, but those days are long gone.
So I wasn't going anyway, but it is because of the price.

[Snods Shinpad 2]

2000 x £20 = £40,000 plus a good atmosphere
or...
1000 x £30 = £30,000 plus a shite atmosphere

Me, plus a mate, will not be paying £30.

[MrFrost]

I wonder how many Barnsley fans will make the return trip at £27.
I'm guessing it will be double whatever we take there.

[silent majority]

I presume by that then, ALL topics should be kept on topic and not diversify from the original post? Maybe you should moderate the board a little more effectively then?

Just because you think something is irrelevant, doesn't mean it isn't relevant for someone else.

As I pointed out before - what of the people who were having a dig at fellow fans for not wanting to pay Rovers inflated prices, yet are now saying they wont pay the prices at Barnsley? Double standards?

This wasn't/isn't a discussion thread. There was a question asked about if people were not going because of the cost. The numbers were being counted so we could make Barnsley aware. Which bit of that do you not understand???

[MrFrost]

Why not do it as a poll then?
When you open a thread, expect people to post their thoughts on the matter.

[Filo]

Why not do it as a poll then?
When you open a thread, expect people to post their thoughts on the matter.

Give it a rest Frosty, you`ve made your point!

[IDM]

2 more here not going who may have gone...

May change my mind after today's score AND if I get 4 numbers on the lottery again.!

[silent majority]

Why not do it as a poll then?
When you open a thread, expect people to post their thoughts on the matter.

We could hardly go to the Barnsley management and say to them, 'we've had a poll, what do you think'. If you sign a petition today you need to add qualifying data such as your name, e-mail address etc etc. A poll is no good, people could vote over and over again, you need hard data.

[silent majority]

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[Woodhead Passer]

Why not do it as a poll then?
When you open a thread, expect people to post their thoughts on the matter.

Give it a rest Frosty, you`ve made your point!

Yeah, not a very good point!

I actually have a ST and have since 2004 and gone to many away games. I've been to Barnsley everytime we've played them in recent years apart from the JPT when we won 5-2. But you need to see that football isn't everything in life and it is very expensive. My point in my previous post was that we'll not get another chance to go Newcastle in the league or West Ham but with Barnsley we're likely to play them alot more often after this season than Newcastle or WHU.

[GazLaz]

Get there and support the lads while they need it most. People seem happy pulling 24/25 up for matches that are further away. You save the £6 in petrol. I pulled £33.50 up at Portman Road yesterday plus train tickets. I would have paid £100 for the memory of yesterday without batting an eyelid.

[donnyvikings]

SURELY THE OBJECT OF OUR SUPPORT IS TO SUPPORT THE 'TEAM' ON THE PITCH, WHERE EVER THEY MAY BE: THE MORE SUPPORTERS IN THE STAND, THE MORE NOISE AND ATMOSPHERE  GENERATE, SURELY YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE '12TH' MAN? DON'T FORGET IT'S £27 QUID AT KEEPMOAT, SO YOUR BIKKERING OVER 3 QUID, COST OF A PINT....... LET'S GET BEHIND THE 'TEAM' THEY NEED US NOW!

[nice one rovers]

2000 x £20 = £40,000 plus a good atmosphere
or...
1000 x £30 = £30,000 plus a shite atmosphere

Me, plus a mate, will not be paying £30.

To be fair, a couple of hundred of us yesterday made a good atmosphere.

[jonnydog]

To be fair, a pint of Guiness in my local is £3.30

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Thanks to those who've used the thread as it was intended. It's also good to know there are folk who will support the club at away games whatever the cost. The club is lucky to have you.

[andysly]

At some point it becomes a principle thing. And £30 is stretching it a bit. If people did start to mass boycott as in the german example on another thread it would make authorities sit up and take notice. Unfortunately 200 not turning up at Barnsley isn't going to create any waves.
If a supporters group (FSF) decided to encourage a nationwide non- travel weekend where all away fans stayed home maybe someone would take notice.
As it is I'll be at oakwell with 3 others as usual, although we'll be grumbling into our ale before kick off, though hopefully not giving a toss after a 3-1 win

[yarmouth rover]

six from great yarmouth, we are just sticking to homes games cos of fuel prices

[silent majority]

At some point it becomes a principle thing. And £30 is stretching it a bit. If people did start to mass boycott as in the german example on another thread it would make authorities sit up and take notice. Unfortunately 200 not turning up at Barnsley isn't going to create any waves.
If a supporters group (FSF) decided to encourage a nationwide non- travel weekend where all away fans stayed home maybe someone would take notice.
As it is I'll be at oakwell with 3 others as usual, although we'll be grumbling into our ale before kick off, though hopefully not giving a toss after a 3-1 win

Andysly,

Unfortunately we (FSF) can't organise something liker that, basically because its illegal and a restraint of trade. Which is one of the reasons we have to resort to this kind of tactic. I must confess I thought there was more of a groundswell of opinion that £30 was too much, seeing as 2 years ago it was only £20. We campaigned successfully last year for a reduction which was matched by both clubs. Unfortunately, again, some people have interpreted this thread as one which sought to encourage people not to go, which was never the case, even when it was explained to them in detail they still hijacked the thread to make their own points.

The people who have stated that they would go and support the Rovers at any price are the kind of supporters that any club would be proud to have. However those same supporters are then taken advantage of by every CEO at every football club up and down the country. A stand will have to be taken at some point, away attendance at stadiums up and down the country are dropping alarmingly, and the home attendance is following the same trend.

Even clubs who have traditionally bucked the trend are struggling and are giving tickets away to encourage home supporters to fill the empty seats. The PL are very worried that the TV pictures that are beamed around the world will show empty stadiums. The famous waiting list that Man U have had for season tickets has gone with them resorting to freebies. Leeds Utd are very worried about their falling attendance and resorted to giving thousands of tickets away for their midweek game against Blackpool. The times are changing at football, and not for the better.

[RedJ]

2000 x £20 = £40,000 plus a good atmosphere
or...
1000 x £30 = £30,000 plus a shite atmosphere

The look on a Dingle's face when they lose their cup final = priceless B)

[andysly]

Good answer and informative.
Though is \"encouraging\" non-attendance really illegal.
Really hope something gets done as prices are becoming ridiculous.

[silent majority]

Good answer and informative.
Though is \"encouraging\" non-attendance really illegal.
Really hope something gets done as prices are becoming ridiculous.

Well 'encouraging' maybe isn't but it will then come down to definition. Chelsea supporters are openly encouraging non-attendance at the opening rounds of the Champions League in an attempt to make their management think again on pricing. I notice that Chelsea, and Man Utd, have just doubled their efforts to give more tickets away so that the protest appears to be stifled.

Chelsea protest

[benaldo]

How about thinking from another perspective? I was talking over the premier club price rises last week and they are running in line with whatever the yearly inflation rate is. Now you all know my feelings about the vast sums of money largely stupid young men who can kick a ball about get, but Rovers aren't responsible for inflation are they.

If ticket prices are increasing in line with UK inflation, then the football clubs are no more at fault than I am. Perhaps the protesting could be aimed more at the shower of shit that have been ruining the UK for the past 15 years? Just a thought.

[silent majority]

Well that's the point though, ticket prices have not been going up at the rate of inflation, they've been rising at 2 or 3 times that level. In fact, during the 2008/09 season it was common for some Premier League clubs to increase tickets by 15/20% in order to compete with the bigger clubs.

Players wages have continually outstripped club turnover, and to try and balance the books clubs have continually pushed the limits on ticket pricing. Increasing away tickets is always the easiest option, a) because your own fans won't notice, and b) the away fans are the most fanatical therefore more likely to just carry on stumping up the money, and c) any reduction in % terms means your affecting the smallest group if there is a downturn.

Ticket prices on the continent are far more reasonable. A ticket for a Bundesliga game may cost as little as €8 if standing, whereas the top rated seats may cost €25. If it can be done there then why not here? Answer, because in Europe they wouldn't stand for it and have organised many protests in the past, our supporters are much more apathetic when it comes to football matters.

And finally Beno, to return to your favourite subject, take a look at a piece written by my friend John Beech;

http://footballmanagement.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/wages-and-the-distortion-of-the-pyramid/

All of that stemmed from this recent piece on players wages;

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2011/10/30/revealed-official-english-football-wage-figures-for-the-past-25-years-301002/