Saunders on the experiment

[donnygreenjeans]

Saunders said: “There’s two ways of looking at it [the experiment].

“Either we’ve not done well enough or we could have been relegated a long time ago.

The only part of his statement/quote that is 100% correct is the first part.

[Filo]

And your point is?

[BobG]

You know I keep being accused of having a single track mind at the moment Filo? Well I reckon you're in exactly the same boat - only its obverse! And I'm wondering why that should be so tbh.

Cheers

BobG

[hoolahoop]

You know I keep being accused of having a single track mind at the moment Filo? Well I reckon you're in exactly the same boat - only its obverse! And I'm wondering why that should be so tbh.

Cheers

BobG

Wondering the same myself Bob, come on Filo let your hair down a tad and stop stifling folk please.

[wilko_rover]

proof that moderating on here has gone to his head.

[BobG]

Lol. That wasn't my interpretation actually Wilko. I was wondering more about hidden agendas and even perhaps ''agreements' to convey certain messages. Could be totally wrong of course.

Cheers

BobG

[Donnybax]

proof that moderating on here has gone to his head.

not sure i agree with that, moderators have to have opions they are humans

[wilko_rover]

it wouldnt surprise me. the reason i refused to join the old forum and the vsc in general was because of the heavy handed moderating and approach that the vsc was for the select few rather than all fans.

[BobG]

Oh I'm not sure that's fair Wilko. Yes. No one, no organisation, can ever please all of their customers, users, friends, enemies all of the time. In my case I think the VSC should be a pressure group acting on behalf of its paying members rather than being fund raising device for the John Ryan fan club that it's been for quite a while now. But that's only my opniion. But what the VSC has never been is elitist. How can it be? There are regular elections to its board of management.

BobG

[wilko_rover]

the episode when viva rovers had to close his website and some elected board members of the vsc took delight in it happening put me off the vsc. thats why i wont be joining until there is a change.

[BobG]

TRue. I forgot that. And I admire Glen immensely too. Shame on me. But even so, was that an official VSC position? or was it individuals speaking on their own behalf? I doubt very much the VSC could ever think to rubbish or decry someone even if individuals did feel that way.

And anyway, Glen has been amply proved right hasn't he?!

Cheers!

BobG

[Mr1Croft]

It is written in the rules of this forum that the opinions expressed in posts are solely the opinions of the authors. Perhaps it would be better for the VSC Board not to express their opinions because more often than not it is taken as a VSC official position. However the moderators are just individuals who choose to use their free time to help us and help you, why should they be silenced?


What you need to remember that this forum is not, and never will be the VSC, it is only a service we provide. It is a good vehicle to communicate but the VSC doesn't have to pay for this forum and allow anyone to join for free, but we do. We exist as for the benefit of DRFC fans. We do not ever try to drive anyone away or silence their views.


If you think the VSC are 'towing the party line' then that is your opinion which you are entitled to but I have to disagree, we have not (as of yet) received an outburst from the membership that we need to start opposing JR or some of the clubs policies. If the members are saying nothing then we cannot make assumptions for them. Personally when all this came about in October i was very much in the 'anti' camp. I was very verbal about my thoughts and being co-opted onto the VSC Board proves that the VSC is not trying to shunt anyone who has a different opinion. But what you have to consider is that like any elected position any opinions go out the window when you are elected or co-opted. It is now our duty to act in the interest of our members and not ourselves. I'm still not convinced personally that the club are going down the right path but I have to ignore this and think about what our members are saying when making my suggestions and comments at our board meetings.


When treating it's membership, the club and the fans we are always respectful and we do not seek confrontation; but we will challenge if needs be.

[RoversAlias]

I am genuinely beginning to fear that Lee has been killed/kidnapped/locked in a cupboard somewhere and his account on here taken over by an autobot with the VSC logo on the front.

Just kidding mate!

I've got to say I'm bored of sifting through 88 different threads about Saunders every day now. If anybody wants to discuss his upcoming patent for velcro glasses however give me a shout.

[The Red Baron]

A suggestion for the mods- perhaps combine the threads into two general "Saunders IN" and "Saunders OUT" threads. Mind you, I think that would account for about 95% of this forum!

I saw the Fenners interview- the velcro glasses bit made me laugh out loud. He may not be much of a football manager (IMHO) but he has a future in comedy judged on that!

[Filo]

You know I keep being accused of having a single track mind at the moment Filo? Well I reckon you're in exactly the same boat - only its obverse! And I'm wondering why that should be so tbh.

Cheers

BobG

Bob, as has been pointed out, I moderate this forum, end of, you know that, I can also see and understand why people want Saunders out, in my eyes it`s not financially viable at the moment, I think you also know that, I`m not bothered whether he stays or goes, on the one hand his record since he came here has been just as bad as the last 6 months of the previous manager, on the other hand he`s inherited and probably partly contributed to a difficult situation. I have no agenda, what pisses my off and I dare say a few others is typical with the OP of this thread, he`s started yet another thread regarding Saunders, we must have a dozen or so threads on the same subject and yet the OP comes on here, makes a nothing statement and then pisses off. Why could n`t he post that nothing statement in a thread that`s currently "live" about Saunders. You know why Bob, don`t you? the OP has the agenda, he and a few others feel the need to bore everyone else into submission. Why has n`t the OP contributed anything else to the thread he started? why has n`t he made a response to my question asking him what his point was? I`m sick and tired of being accused of something I`m not, I`m not a VSC director, I moderate on here that is all, everything I post is my opinion and no one elses, I`m allowed an opinion as well, we`re not just here to oversee the kindergarden!

[bobbymax]

Oh I'm not sure that's fair Wilko. Yes. No one, no organisation, can ever please all of their customers, users, friends, enemies all of the time. In my case I think the VSC should be a pressure group acting on behalf of its paying members rather than being fund raising device for the John Ryan fan club that it's been for quite a while now. But that's only my opniion. But what the VSC has never been is elitist. How can it be? There are regular elections to its board of management.

BobG

Hopefully, with a new board of directors, the VSC can start being a little more objective in its role. I agree with BobG, it had become little more than a mouthpiece for JR at times under the old guard and, though I've nothing but respect for our chairman, this is not what the VSC is supposed to be. Much better if we work with rather than for DRFC.

[NathanDRFC]

VSC aims & objectives

Aims

These are included in the rules of the VSC and are as follows:

The Society’s objects are to benefit the community by:


1.being the democratic and representative voice of the supporters of the Club and strengthening the bonds between the Club and the communities which it serves
2.achieving the greatest possible supporter and community influence in the running and ownership of the Club
3.promoting responsible and constructive community engagement by present and future members of the communities served by the Club and encouraging the Club to do the same
4.operating democratically, fairly, sustainably, transparently and with financial responsibility and encouraging the Club to do the same
5.being a positive, inclusive and representative organisation, open and accessible to all supporters of the Club regardless of their age, income, ethnicity, gender, disability, sexuality or religious or moral belief

Objectives

We will deliver these aims by adopting the following key strategies and actions:


•Provide a voice for the supporters of DRFC
◦Increase our shareholding in the club (Patienceform ltd.)
■Ensure all new members fees and a proportion of annual subscriptions are used to buy shares.
■Look to become the 6th largest shareholder in 3 years time.
■Exercise our rights as shareholders to access information, attend AGM’s etc.
◦Maintain a free of charge web based forum
■Ensure website performance is robust and reliable
■Increase the number of registered forum users year on year.
◦Drive change in club policy in relation to key issues raised by supporters.
■Meet with senior club officials on a regular basis

   
•Build a thriving and sustainable community of supporters
◦Grow the membership of the VSC
■Introduce a youth section
■Publicise the successes of and benefits of being in the VSC
◦Increase the opportunities for members and other supporters to provide feedback
■Have VSC directors / other members available to meet members / other supporters at least once a month at home games.
■Use the VSC website to carry out surveys
◦Strengthen the financial status of the VSC.
■Carry out fund raising activities

   
•Play an active part in the local community
◦Identify and meet with leaders of local community groups
■Host meetings with community groups at home games
■Work with DRFC marketing and education and welfare teams
◦Set up a community fund to sponsor worthy local causes
■Set aside a percentage of each years surplus to fund local community activities


A development plan for the VSC will be published in the near future, we are just finalising that at the minute.

We welcome peoples views and opinions on how the VSC can grow and develop.