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Rovin Reporter

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Re: Squad
« Reply #30 on August 07, 2012, 05:06:49 pm by Rovin Reporter »
Because its all rubbish , they Have untill next year to meet that criteria teams coming down can not be expected to have this imposed too soon .
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SkellowRover

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Re: Squad
« Reply #31 on August 07, 2012, 05:08:36 pm by SkellowRover »
Wow here's a change....... Me sticking up for the KM2  :woot:

Basically they can't 'put their hands in their pockets' because are wage bill has to be 65% at most of our turnover, that is why ALL the high earners need to go to enable DS to build a squad. Remember before any left we were £1m OVER our wage budget, so it seems we still aren't down to the 65% figure that is needed. If we dont get to 65% or under we will be hit with a transfer embago.

Now back to normality.............
So why did they return?  :P :laugh: ;)

We might as well be hit with a transfer embargo. Not like we are signing anyone. Strange why Saunders didn't say ALL the high earners had to go a couple of weeks ago.

Dunno how much of that £1m was reduced by getting rid of George & Jimmy but i doubt they were on that much between them per annum and it seems the club is desperate to get rid of Stocky for this reason.

MrFrost

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Re: Squad
« Reply #32 on August 07, 2012, 05:09:55 pm by MrFrost »
And if we don't get rid of Stock? I guess we will be making do with the squad we have.

MachoMadness

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Re: Squad
« Reply #33 on August 07, 2012, 05:10:41 pm by MachoMadness »
Either way, it's very worrying. We're so close to the season now that every day is crucial, and every day that ticks by without a defence is going to set us further and further back for the start of the season. We'll be at a major disadvantage for at least a month into the season at this rate, and a good start this season is more crucial than ever with us needing to lift morale around the place.

SkellowRover

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Re: Squad
« Reply #34 on August 07, 2012, 05:10:48 pm by SkellowRover »
Because its all rubbish , they untill next year to meet that criteria

No embagos come in effect this season, remember the FFP was published BEFORE last season. Here is how it impacts on us (bold bits are this season).....

League 1 and League 2

League 1 and League 2, clubs have chosen to implement the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP) first used in League 2 in 2004/05, although it will operate at different thresholds in each division.

The SCMP broadly limits spending on total player wages to a proportion of each club's turnover, with clubs providing budgetary information to The League at the beginning of the season that is updated as the campaign progresses.

Any club that is deemed to have breached the permitted spending threshold will be subject to a transfer embargo. Wherever possible, The League will seek to tackle the issue 'at source' by refusing player registrations that take clubs beyond the threshold.

At the beginning of the current season, League 2 clubs reduced the permitted spending threshold to 55% from 60% and this figure will continue to be operated next season.

League 1 clubs are currently operating a 'pilot' of the SCMP with clubs complying with a 75% threshold but with no sanctions being applicable this season. This threshold will reduce to 65% in 2012/13 and 60% in 2013/14 with sanctions (transfer embargoes) being applicable in both seasons.

albie

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Re: Squad
« Reply #35 on August 07, 2012, 05:15:36 pm by albie »
Any ban on transfers would only come next season, if DRFC could not show that they had made best efforts to reduce to 65% of turnover.

As we are likely to lose high earners, some now, the rest in January (or before if we loan out), and players coming to the end of their contracts, such as Bennett and Martin Woods, the end of season picture is likely to show significant reduction in salaries.

The real issue for now is not to incur additional liabilities that can't be afforded. It means lower offers to players (and agents) who need to relax their demands, short term contracts, and use of loanees.

Saunders test as a manager will be how effectively he gets results in this environment. Let's see!

MachoMadness

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Re: Squad
« Reply #36 on August 07, 2012, 05:17:53 pm by MachoMadness »
As for that FFP thing, I think it's a good idea but once again weighed down with conditions to help the big clubs. All it will do is widen the gap between a Championship already full of parachute payment money and the rest of the leagues. Any club that gets out of L1 is going to have to spend well above their means just to survive, just like Championship clubs do when going up to the Premiership, except there they have the TV money and parachute payments to help them transition when they get relegated.

Considering clubs like Pompey, Coventry, Leeds etc suffered when they were in the top 2 leagues anyway, in my view this regulation hits the wrong clubs.

MrFrost

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Re: Squad
« Reply #37 on August 07, 2012, 05:21:32 pm by MrFrost »
I guess it could be worse.
This is Portsmouth's squad
30      DF   Sam Magri
31      DF   Adam Webster

SkellowRover

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Re: Squad
« Reply #38 on August 07, 2012, 05:24:48 pm by SkellowRover »
As for that FFP thing, I think it's a good idea but once again weighed down with conditions to help the big clubs. All it will do is widen the gap between a Championship already full of parachute payment money and the rest of the leagues. Any club that gets out of L1 is going to have to spend well above their means just to survive, just like Championship clubs do when going up to the Premiership, except there they have the TV money and parachute payments to help them transition when they get relegated.

Considering clubs like Pompey, Coventry, Leeds etc suffered when they were in the top 2 leagues anyway, in my view this regulation hits the wrong clubs.

That is what i hate about the SCMP as it just benefits big clubs that drop to the 3rd tier like a number have done over recent years because a side getting 4-5k fans every home game can't compete with the likes of say Wednesday that were getting 20k a match last season.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Squad
« Reply #39 on August 07, 2012, 05:44:34 pm by steve@dcfd »
In the forum for the future meeting John said two or three high earners had to go. They have, if they did not then the budget was in question. So why is there still a problem. Yes I can see this 65% restriction but that was not said by the board either in the meeting or the video press release. Also we have had two bids turned down for two centre halves at Stevenage. So we must have the money?
Well all we can do is wait and see what happens, the good thing for Dean his excuses are there for every one to see. He is on a win win situation it is not his fault, it's the boards. It always as been for the last two years.

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Squad
« Reply #40 on August 07, 2012, 07:02:05 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
Portsmouth have only got two players listed according to one of the previous comments,i'd hate to face them when they've got a full eleven,they've just beat Bolton 3-0 :laugh:
I Know it's asking the investors to put they're hands in there pockets again,isn't there any way they can pay the contracts off of Stock(Burnley messing us about),Sullivan he must be on a big wage and isn't going to be playing,so why keep him and Martis although he can be a good centre-half if he ain't fit he's no use to us!!,if he could be got fit a good player,least if they were paid off Dean could start building the squad :scarf:

 

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