Goals at home

[steve@dcfd]

Getting back to football instead of drunken loutish behaviour. It's time we improved our goals for, at home. We have scored five goals in five games. This is the equal second worst record in the league.

We should not be relying on throwing a centre half forward to get the goals. Although needs must in some games.

The midfield players need to be more creative and move the ball forward quicker. Passing at pace and then allowing crosses to come in earlier. I am not advocating long ball but moving the ball quicker, when we have done that in games at home we have created chances.

We have strikers who are more than capable of scoring goals at this level. So we must give them a chance to prove they can.

So I hope we can do this starting on Saturday. It will be more entertaining if we can, we should then get a positive result. It may keep all the supporters happy so they do not feel the need to argue and fight with each other.

[MachoMadness]

We do look severely lacking in creativity up front. I think we're seeing the downside to having a team full of triers - we might have the basics down better than anyone else and be organised, but we're currently lacking the ability and creative spark to do anything really special. It makes us hard to beat, but unfortunately when teams come to the Keepmoat who also want to be organised and come for a point, we don't have it in us to break them down. Doesn't help that of our creative players, only Cotterill is really pulling his weight this season.

[GazLaz]

Our wide men are key to creativity. Cott's has played well and Bennett has been hit and miss. Syers looks a goal threat from midfield which is a good thing. I just think Deano is looking to make us a solid unit before we start opening up a bit. We are a work in progress, we are learning to walk at the minute, we will be running before long though.

[Red wizard]

Our wide men are key to creativity. Cott's has played well and Bennett has been hit and miss. Syers looks a goal threat from midfield which is a good thing. I just think Deano is looking to make us a solid unit before we start opening up a bit. We are a work in progress, we are learning to walk at the minute, we will be running before long though.

I agree with you there Gaz. Also Hume makes us better up front. Its just up to now he has either been with Canada or couldn't play against Preston. But when he has played we look a bigger threat. I feel Brown and Paynter are to alike and are easy to mark as they lack pace. But it will come, lets not forget Harper is just getting upto speed after no pre season and he again make us look a better team.

[GazLaz]

Paynter just needs to get going. Once his confidence comes he will be a revelation. Things just aren't dropping for him at the minute. We should use the 3 main strikers wisely because its a long season, If they can get 10 each this season that's their job done. Cotts is obviously going to chip in with some handy goals. We will be fine.

[Rovin Reporter]

We are too concerned about how the opposition play that we forget we ARE  at home and   the players more aware of the fans and our expectations to win , an early goal always helps but teams in this league are no push overs so we have be patient and put away our chances . finishing has been our problem so confidence is dropping every time we fail in front of goal.

[Lesonthewest]

We are far  too cautious at home, we should be getting at teams more. We have two good wide players who don't get in crosses anywhere near enough for the strikers to get onto, strikers who are more than good enough for this league.

[bedale rover]

i m ust be watching a different team

cottrill is average at best
paynter is so off the pace he must be playing on the other pitches
playing jones and mccombe means thta we have no one to supplement the midfield and bring the ball out of defence
syers is wasted as part of a 2 in midfield
bennett is too peripheral to make an impact
we have a very experienced capable player like robbie blake and dont use him to change the pace of the game or to allow him to bring other players intyo the game

we must play a 4-3-3

ie
woods (g)
quinn (just)
jones
spurr
husband
harper
keegan
woods(m)
cottrill
blake
hume

[pubteam]

i m ust be watching a different team

cottrill is average at best
paynter is so off the pace he must be playing on the other pitches
playing jones and mccombe means thta we have no one to supplement the midfield and bring the ball out of defence
syers is wasted as part of a 2 in midfield
bennett is too peripheral to make an impact
we have a very experienced capable player like robbie blake and dont use him to change the pace of the game or to allow him to bring other players intyo the game

we must play a 4-3-3

ie
woods (g)
quinn (just)
jones
spurr
husband
harper
keegan
woods(m)
cottrill
blake
hume

Cotterill is "average at best"? You're entitled to your opinion, but he is our top scorer, and (without checking) has probably assisted more goals than anyone else as well.

[Red wizard]

Cotts is a good player. Puts some very good balls in the box.

[MachoMadness]

"Average" at best is never something that's been thrown at Cotterill throughout his career. If you'd said he was too hot and cold, I'd buy that. The guy has proven he's got the quality to do real damage at this level, but it's just a matter of getting that out of him more regularly like we managed to do with McIndoe.

[Sammy Chung was King]

We are a good solid team at the minute,we can compete with anybody,but just don't have that extra bit of class to open teams up,we have a clinical finisher in Hume,who if he plays regular could get us fifteen to twenty goals,we just haven't got the players technical enough to get him in those positions,Martin Woods has got the ability but isn't producing yet,Cotterill for me is the only one creating consistently,but if we just rely on him doing it all,teams will just stop him playing,Kyle Bennett needs to produce a lot better than he has,and more consistently,we haven't got a big enough squad to carry passengers,Robbie Blake,when exactly is he going to be fit?,he's no use being an unused substitute,if he hasn't got it any more,let him go,for me we are probably three players away from being a top three team,two if Jordan Ball does it for us,that would leave a creative central midfielder,maybe Michael Woods can fill that role,then that would leave a winger to put pressure on Bennett and Cotterill,there isn't much wrong with us at all,a few tweaks here and there,and we would be a serious promotion team!!.

[steve@dcfd]

The problem we have is the balance of the midfield. Cotterill as proved he is the best of the two wide men at the moment. But he still needs to be more consistent with his performance. But from the left side we have been poor all season so far. Bennett as had more poor performances than good ones, but he showed on Saturday he can cross a ball from the right, yet he as no left foot to cross from the left. He always as to cut in side instead of getting to the byline.
Centre midfield for me is the biggest problem. We do not have the right two, to play two in midfield. Syers can run in both directions, he as not scored goals in the league, his passing and creativity is poor. Woods M thinks he is a world beater but again his pass rate is poor, he does not pace to beat players, he cannot tackle. Harper is proving to be best of the four used, but again he is slow both going forward and tracking back, his pass rate is the best of the four used. Keegan is combative, but he is not good enough to start in this league. Therefore we need at least on better centre midfield player, can we get the person. At the moment we do not have the money. Therefore I have lowered my expectations when I go and watch, I have to accept the way we are playing. But know it will not be enjoyable but we try and get a result.
In a tweet from Paul Goodwin tonight Dean recognises that our goal scoring at home must improve. He is aiming for seven points from the next three games, lets hope we can get that. Which would certainly lay down a marker. Therefore I assume three points on Saturday and four points from two away games at Tranmere  and Notts County.

[Viking Don]

I'd like to see JH on the left midfield, as he's obviously not going to take TS's place yet, but he looks like the fearless type we need taking players on with a natural left foot, and a gifted footballer who needs games anyway. That would leave KB fighting for a starting place but he may be better employed as a striker in the end, little un and big un type, with Brown/Paint

[bedale rover]

Cotts is a good player. Puts some very good balls in the box.

but does he?

he is now the designated dead ball taker but apart from the (fortunate) goal against PNE we havent seen a free kick which actually found a rovers player enabling them to score
equally from all the corners we got (and cottrill took)  we are yet to score which seems incredible as we have probably the tallest set of players we have ever had

so looking at david cottrills career
he went to wigan from bristol city for £2m but within a year or so he was sold to the blades then left them went to swansea but was loaned out before being released and ended up at the dingles last year my oppo says that dingles of his acquaintance said he was rubbish (going some for the dingles!)
then he accepts an offer of a 2 year contract at a league 1 club

so either he was overrated or he has a confidence problems and is (hopefully) rehabilitating at sunny donny

i am sure that better is to come from him but at the moment playing both him and bennett is counter productive  playing hume left of centre will still provide some width but still a goal threat

[mushRTID]

We will absolutely fly after Christmas, you watch us.

[dickos1]

We scored at Colchester from his set piece, and he scored the other.
He won us the pen against Shrewsbury,
scored at orient and had a part to play in the other.
Our goal against Stevenage came from his set piece.

To me there can be no complaints with his contribution so far.

[Red wizard]

Cotts is doing well imo. Also seems to be getting better.

[pubteam]

We scored at Colchester from his set piece, and he scored the other.
He won us the pen against Shrewsbury,
scored at orient and had a part to play in the other.
Our goal against Stevenage came from his set piece.

To me there can be no complaints with his contribution so far.

Also scored at Walsall, scored against Preston, and won the penalty against York City.

[Red wizard]

I think it would be easyer to name the goals Cotts never had a hand in. But then it would show him as doing very well.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Agree with the consensus that Hume will add greater value with either Paynter or Brown. He can drop deeper to link up as we saw v Shrewsbury.

Otherwise, we look a bit static and unless, we can squeeze a bit more out of Woods, Bennett, Syers or Keegan to compliment Harper, we may need to invest to provide a bit more quality in there. Someone who will take more care of the ball in possession and can pick a pass.

I still think we're not far off.

[Wellred]

The problem we have is the balance of the midfield. Cotterill as proved he is the best of the two wide men at the moment. But he still needs to be more consistent with his performance. But from the left side we have been poor all season so far. Bennett as had more poor performances than good ones, but he showed on Saturday he can cross a ball from the right, yet he as no left foot to cross from the left. He always as to cut in side instead of getting to the byline.
Centre midfield for me is the biggest problem. We do not have the right two, to play two in midfield. Syers can run in both directions, he as not scored goals in the league, his passing and creativity is poor. Woods M thinks he is a world beater but again his pass rate is poor, he does not pace to beat players, he cannot tackle. Harper is proving to be best of the four used, but again he is slow both going forward and tracking back, his pass rate is the best of the four used. Keegan is combative, but he is not good enough to start in this league. Therefore we need at least on better centre midfield player, can we get the person. At the moment we do not have the money. Therefore I have lowered my expectations when I go and watch, I have to accept the way we are playing. But know it will not be enjoyable but we try and get a result.
In a tweet from Paul Goodwin tonight Dean recognises that our goal scoring at home must improve. He is aiming for seven points from the next three games, lets hope we can get that. Which would certainly lay down a marker. Therefore I assume three points on Saturday and four points from two away games at Tranmere  and Notts County.

I wish you would learn when to use HAS and not AS.
It would make your posts so much easier to read.