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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20866989A touch of the Graham Polls. He'll probably get suspended for this one. Shame he didn't for that apalling display in the Portsmouth game.
Nice one DonnyWolf.I was reading the reports on it yesterday and there was no mention of his previous incompetence which got JR into trouble when all he said was absolutely spot on. I think the two instances should be linked, just as the media did with Stuart Atwell when he made a few errors.Also, maybe an apology is now due to JR from the FA, admitting that this guy is not up to officiating at Football league level.
massive cockup in Crawley game, forgot what though, either them or Port Vale
Let's think about the real life of a ref at top level - ie our level and up.Fancy going about your normal reffing business, when a decision of yours means two or three half-wits swear at you to your face in an aggressive manner? IF it was me, or maybe you, you'd want to send them off, but you would never because you know that sending someone like say, Rooney, off for spitting the word c*(t in your face would mean you'd be reffing in the conference for the rest of your career. And that, my friends, is the reason why football is becoming crapper and crapper. Officials are scared of being in charge of a football match. Forget the odd cock-up they all sometimes make and forget the odd genuinely bad ref. What is really hampering modern football is the complete lack of respect they have from 22 dim-witted young rich men every saturday afternoon and the knock on effect that has on quick thinking psychological decisions.Can you imagine a rugby match where a couple of players surround the ref and grit their teeth while telling him he's a f-ing c*&t? No? That's because it hardly ever, ever, happens. Why? Because the refs know they don't have to put up with it, the managers don't have the power to influence their careers (ie ferguson) and they know they can do something about it. OK, so rugby is a sport broadly played by more intelligent people than football on the whole, but a ref is a ref and like it or not they control the game and should demand some basic respect - like not being sworn at by a thick young man who should thank his lucky stars he's not cleaning wheelie bins on a council estate.....Let's face it, rugby has a better standard of refs. Why? Because they aren't carrying the fear every game that some moron is going to give them some horrific verbal abuse and attempt to cheat his way through the afternoon by falling over.... a lot. Football is becoming the sport for the idiot - players, managers, and fans. It shouldn't, and doesn't have to, be like this.
Also ... someone will remember what did Russell do the very mext game he reffed after us V Pompey. It is escaping me at the moment ?Sure it was a Div 1 game but that apart I cant remember
Quote from: benaldo on December 30, 2012, 04:44:58 pmLet's think about the real life of a ref at top level - ie our level and up.Fancy going about your normal reffing business, when a decision of yours means two or three half-wits swear at you to your face in an aggressive manner? IF it was me, or maybe you, you'd want to send them off, but you would never because you know that sending someone like say, Rooney, off for spitting the word c*(t in your face would mean you'd be reffing in the conference for the rest of your career. And that, my friends, is the reason why football is becoming crapper and crapper. Officials are scared of being in charge of a football match. Forget the odd cock-up they all sometimes make and forget the odd genuinely bad ref. What is really hampering modern football is the complete lack of respect they have from 22 dim-witted young rich men every saturday afternoon and the knock on effect that has on quick thinking psychological decisions.Can you imagine a rugby match where a couple of players surround the ref and grit their teeth while telling him he's a f-ing c*&t? No? That's because it hardly ever, ever, happens. Why? Because the refs know they don't have to put up with it, the managers don't have the power to influence their careers (ie ferguson) and they know they can do something about it. OK, so rugby is a sport broadly played by more intelligent people than football on the whole, but a ref is a ref and like it or not they control the game and should demand some basic respect - like not being sworn at by a thick young man who should thank his lucky stars he's not cleaning wheelie bins on a council estate.....Let's face it, rugby has a better standard of refs. Why? Because they aren't carrying the fear every game that some moron is going to give them some horrific verbal abuse and attempt to cheat his way through the afternoon by falling over.... a lot. Football is becoming the sport for the idiot - players, managers, and fans. It shouldn't, and doesn't have to, be like this.Good post Benaldo and I would like to add a few commentsThese overpaid primadonnas are, like it or not, also role models for the young. Over here in Holland we had just had a dreadful tragedy of a linesman flagging a junior (under 16) amateur match and being assaulted and kicked in the head by a group of players from one side after the match. The man concerned, a 41 year old volunteer, was initially OK, went to a post match meeting, did not wish to report the incident to the police (there were potential racist overtones), but a few hours later he collapsed and died. The whole country is now soul searching and trying to come to terms with the levels of lack of respect in all walks of life.As a former top referee in a different sport (squash) I have been involved in discussions and rule reviews relating to dealing with bad behaviour by players, and the role and position of referees. We came to the conclusion that the referee needed a full range of sanctions and penalties. At the time immediate disqualification was the only sanction a squash referee had, and players in front of a packed gallery of paying spectators knew the referee was unlikely to abort the whole match. Intermediate more credible sanctions (point against, game against) were introduced. This leads me to the idea of a sin-bin in football. If a player knew arguing or crowding a ref brought automatic 10 or 15 minutes sin-bin it would happen less, certainly if 3-4 players could be potentially simultaneously sin-binned.Something needs to be done and very soon IMHO. Edit: This doesn't mean there are no poor referees, or no referee having a bad day - it hopefully would reduce pressure and intimidation and allow more of a referee's attention to go to basic decision making.