**Rovers Player Feedback Stevenage v Rovers**

[Filo]

Just dropped out again for about 20 seconds

[hoolahoop]

Lost it too so it's not just you. 

[Northants Nomad]

Never lost it the whole game. And the Paul/Glen partnership was excellent.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Clear reception throughout with a couple of short drops, but nothing to spoil an excellent commentary from Paul and Glenn. Thank you lads!

[LincsRover]

I enjoyed that commentary!! - passion, humour and I guess the result helped!! OK it wasn't motty, but it was exciting - worth the fee on that commentary alone!

 

[MrFrost]

Yeah it was good. Think it would be better with Glenn doing the main part with Paul summarising.

[bobjimwilly]

Paul keeps you on the edge of your seat for 90 mins - I need a beer now...

 

[Northants Nomad]

Paul keeps you on the edge of your seat for 90 mins - I need a beer now...

 

Actually, Paul keeps me needing to visit a different type of seat. Blooming crapping myself sometimes, I was!!

[LincsRover]

Already on my 2nd pint of Monkmans Slaughter - 1st bottle opened straight after the goal!!! Tastes good - Better than champagne!!

 

[CottyRover]

Everything was fine apart from a couple of blips, but I did get the impression there was a time delay, as reported by Martin on Lucky Pint. Very pleased with hte commentary from Paul and Glen. My main problem was the wife insisting on talking to me as the second goal was going in.   

Edit: Didn't realise Martin was getting a delay because he's in Canada! 

[glosterred]

No problems at all today - other than trying to keep up with Paul - he must be exhausted after that stint 100 mph or what - Really enjoyed it though from both Paul and Glenn.

COYR

[MartinB]

Glenn sounded like a real pro.

[VivaRovers]

Thought I'd balance this thread with some feedback from the other end of the wires. Bit of an odd position for me as I have to confess I've never used Rovers Player before, and obviously I don't speak for the club in any capacity, but will try and respond as I can.

Firstly thanks for the kind words regards myself and Paul's commentary. Perhaps not a conventional style as we're both very new to it, Paul has done it a handful of times, I'd never done it before, so have no qualms with those who chose the Stevenage service over us two novices.

Exiled in Whiltshire was bang on about how the commentary is delivered and also why the club can't really play music down the line during half-time or up to kick-off; "I would think the equipment is a bog-standard mic connected to an ISDN line. It probably is not 'advanced' enough to have pre-recorded media pumped into it. As regards music, it needs a licence to do that which increases costs."

As for the break at half-time, we had to have one really as Paul probably would've collapsed without one given the speed of his commentary, and I needed a piss (as I said, I'm not a pro). Perhaps, if we were more experienced we could have staggered that, but it was a tight squeeze in the press box, so we couldn't really get out without downing tools as it were.

In regards to - why not leave the mic on during half-time; one of the problems there - as highlighted by someone - is that you can't legislate someone from uttering an unmentionable down it, and secondly from what Maz was saying, when that has been done before, with no-one speaking directly into the mic. the feed has clicked off.

As for the service cutting out it would appear Rovers have no control over that. Neither Paul nor myself pressed any buttons or twiddled any knobs during commentary so glitches like that would presumably be down to the provider.

Apologies also for a lack of interaction between us and those listening. We had no lap-top just a dying phone (mine) so had to make do as best possible. And given the height of the desk/board in front of us, had we had one Paul wouldn't have been able to see the field to commentate, as I had to get up to look over Tony Bluff's laptop to see the corner by the away end.

In short it would appear the majority of problems folk are experiencing are due to the system provider rather than Rovers, and indeed Steve Uttley told me today the club have experienced with a lot of different equipment at their end (including buying a lot of new stuff in the summer) to try and ensure they're doing all they can.

Hope that helps in some way

[JonWallsend]

Thought I'd balance this thread with some feedback from the other end of the wires. Bit of an odd position for me as I have to confess I've never used Rovers Player before, and obviously I don't speak for the club in any capacity, but will try and respond as I can.

Firstly thanks for the kind words regards myself and Paul's commentary. Perhaps not a conventional style as we're both very new to it, Paul has done it a handful of times, I'd never done it before, so have no qualms with those who chose the Stevenage service over us two novices.

Exiled in Whiltshire was bang on about how the commentary is delivered and also why the club can't really play music down the line during half-time or up to kick-off; "I would think the equipment is a bog-standard mic connected to an ISDN line. It probably is not 'advanced' enough to have pre-recorded media pumped into it. As regards music, it needs a licence to do that which increases costs."

As for the break at half-time, we had to have one really as Paul probably would've collapsed without one given the speed of his commentary, and I needed a piss (as I said, I'm not a pro). Perhaps, if we were more experienced we could have staggered that, but it was a tight squeeze in the press box, so we couldn't really get out without downing tools as it were.

In regards to - why not leave the mic on during half-time; one of the problems there - as highlighted by someone - is that you can't legislate someone from uttering an unmentionable down it, and secondly from what Maz was saying, when that has been done before, with no-one speaking directly into the mic. the feed has clicked off.

As for the service cutting out it would appear Rovers have no control over that. Neither Paul nor myself pressed any buttons or twiddled any knobs during commentary so glitches like that would presumably be down to the provider.

Apologies also for a lack of interaction between us and those listening. We had no lap-top just a dying phone (mine) so had to make do as best possible. And given the height of the desk/board in front of us, had we had one Paul wouldn't have been able to see the field to commentate, as I had to get up to look over Tony Bluff's laptop to see the corner by the away end.

In short it would appear the majority of problems folk are experiencing are due to the system provider rather than Rovers, and indeed Steve Uttley told me today the club have experienced with a lot of different equipment at their end (including buying a lot of new stuff in the summer) to try and ensure they're doing all they can.

Hope that helps in some way

Cheers Glen,

Excellent commentary. Definitely closer to Brian Moore than Brian Bradley. However, I would have appreciated either of you having a word with that screaming women- she was more excitable than Paul.

[newyankee]

Totally agree Glen, your portions came across in a very polished manner. I am sorry, but Paul does not have the same ability to keep calm and therefore from a listeners perspective, you commentating and Paul smmarising would be a much better way to go forward.

 Thank you for coming forward and taking on the task at short notice.

[newyankee]

 By the way Glen, just to swell your head, I have several friends back in England who are TV and Radio commentators from my time in Rugby League..

    The ones I thought you did well against are Harry Gration and Dave Woods of the BBC and John Helm ( freelance) also Martin Fisher and Peter Drury of Sky.

   The one I think you totally outclassed is Eddie Hemmings of Sky's Super League.

[Filo]

Thought I'd balance this thread with some feedback from the other end of the wires. Bit of an odd position for me as I have to confess I've never used Rovers Player before, and obviously I don't speak for the club in any capacity, but will try and respond as I can.

Firstly thanks for the kind words regards myself and Paul's commentary. Perhaps not a conventional style as we're both very new to it, Paul has done it a handful of times, I'd never done it before, so have no qualms with those who chose the Stevenage service over us two novices.

Exiled in Whiltshire was bang on about how the commentary is delivered and also why the club can't really play music down the line during half-time or up to kick-off; "I would think the equipment is a bog-standard mic connected to an ISDN line. It probably is not 'advanced' enough to have pre-recorded media pumped into it. As regards music, it needs a licence to do that which increases costs."

As for the break at half-time, we had to have one really as Paul probably would've collapsed without one given the speed of his commentary, and I needed a piss (as I said, I'm not a pro). Perhaps, if we were more experienced we could have staggered that, but it was a tight squeeze in the press box, so we couldn't really get out without downing tools as it were.

In regards to - why not leave the mic on during half-time; one of the problems there - as highlighted by someone - is that you can't legislate someone from uttering an unmentionable down it, and secondly from what Maz was saying, when that has been done before, with no-one speaking directly into the mic. the feed has clicked off.

As for the service cutting out it would appear Rovers have no control over that. Neither Paul nor myself pressed any buttons or twiddled any knobs during commentary so glitches like that would presumably be down to the provider.

Apologies also for a lack of interaction between us and those listening. We had no lap-top just a dying phone (mine) so had to make do as best possible. And given the height of the desk/board in front of us, had we had one Paul wouldn't have been able to see the field to commentate, as I had to get up to look over Tony Bluff's laptop to see the corner by the away end.

In short it would appear the majority of problems folk are experiencing are due to the system provider rather than Rovers, and indeed Steve Uttley told me today the club have experienced with a lot of different equipment at their end (including buying a lot of new stuff in the summer) to try and ensure they're doing all they can.

Hope that helps in some way

First of all well done Glenn, for a first attempt that was excellent, right back to my point highlighted in bold, do other clubs have more advanced equipment, the reason I ask is how do they feed local BBC Radio commentary into rovers player? It obviously does n`t infringe any copy write as well, could we be able to feed Radio Sheffield half time round up into Rovers Player with our equipment. has any one tried feeding in audio from an external source into the equipment via a jack plug plugged into the microphone socket? for example could something be fed from a laptops head phone socket into the Rovers Player mic socket, if that`s so all it would need was a lead with the relevant jack plugs making up


P.S. I do like Frosty`s idea of advertising being played during half time, if we can find a way to feed pre recorded audio into the equipment, it could be another revenue stream

[VivaRovers]

Thanks for the further kind words, I really enjoyed doing it and have let Steve Uttley know that I'd be happy to do it again whenever possible.

I can't answer the more technical questions I'm afraid, but I got the feeling that the club have stripped back on the system they use to deliver the commentary in an effort to ensure the number one priority is met; ie. folk are receiving the match commentary.

I have sent Steve a link to this thread for him and Maz to take a look at as it may offer them ideas of things to try going forwards.

[Lifelong supporter]

I was actually at the game so can't comment. But my mate, who is currently housebound, listened and wasn't happy. He said Paul's a great lad but will never make a commentator...too many ooh, aahs and errs. He said Glenn was okay but overall he thought it was a bit amateurish and if the club want people to pay for the service they need to improve it all round in terms of sound quality, commentary and analysis.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Due respect to you mate, he must have been listening to a different commentary to the rest of us. 

As a pairing, it's their first attempt and as Glenn said, it's his first time ever.  Taking that in to consideration it was bloody good. Yes, we know Paul get's excitable but hey, he's a fan and trying to provide a service which we wouldn't have otherwise.

As for Glenn, I thought he was cool, calm, collected and very informative and I have heard worse from professional commentators. We've a pub team having a laugh and as long as we uphold that spirit, then why overcomplicate things.

I'm very grateful they took to the job and they could be a luck omen. Carry On men.

[Dagenham Rover]

I didn't listen as I was one of the lucky ones down in Stevenage,  however having read Glens Viva Rovers and the other bits he does I have a gut feeling he could be a very  good commentator

[Red wizard]

I to thought they was both good. Not sure how anyone can say they was poor tbh. It can't be easy and to say both was new to it I was impressed.

[yapper1901]

I was actually at the game so can't comment. But my mate, who is currently housebound, listened and wasn't happy. He said Paul's a great lad but will never make a commentator...too many ooh, aahs and errs. He said Glenn was okay but overall he thought it was a bit amateurish and if the club want people to pay for the service they need to improve it all round in terms of sound quality, commentary and analysis.

see i dont undertsand your friends point, the whole reason i would listen to player is its not polished its two rovers fans sat their commentating the game. its kind of the point of player.

for me anyway i thought they both did a bang up job to be honest and i actually like that paul is excitable as at the other end of the computer i am just as excitable as we are rovers fans. i hate listening to radio Sheffield or such where they don't really give a opinion its nice to hear some passion.

i for one hope glen and paul do it again i thought they worked well together and to say it was glens first time it was great

plus people pay for it as its the only place to get every rovers game

[newyankee]

I think you have put it the right way yapper, it should be Glen as number one commentator and Paul as his summariser.  Glen gives a much better detailed commentary on the game and Paul can come in as a speccy. The other way round is annoying when Paul gets agitated and cannot follow the game. They could be a good partnership, but not with Retford Rover as the main man.

[silent majority]

Only joking fella back on now. 

In all seriousness, I can`t understand why they just can`t leave the stadium noises playing, if you log on at half time, you can`t tell if we have problems or not because we`re greeted with silence

All,

The plan is to play recordings of previous interviews in the build up to the game and again at half time. This should not be a problem whist we are at the Keepmoat but has so far been a bit of a challenge at certain grounds whilst on our travels. DRFC hope to deliver this as often as possible but due to certain restrictions at certain grounds this might not be possible all the time. It is still being looked at and hopefully it will happen more often than not.

[Filo]

Only joking fella back on now. 

In all seriousness, I can`t understand why they just can`t leave the stadium noises playing, if you log on at half time, you can`t tell if we have problems or not because we`re greeted with silence

All,

The plan is to play recordings of previous interviews in the build up to the game and again at half time. This should not be a problem whist we are at the Keepmoat but has so far been a bit of a challenge at certain grounds whilst on our travels. DRFC hope to deliver this as often as possible but due to certain restrictions at certain grounds this might not be possible all the time. It is still being looked at and hopefully it will happen more often than not.

Thanks for the update Martin, it seems like we`re getting somewhere at last