In Terry Bramall We Trust!!!

[IC1967]

Right, it's time to get behind Terry and let him know he has the overwhelming support of Rovers fans. Anyone with half a brain can see that he is doing the right thing and has the best long-term interests of the club and town at heart. Much though I love the man and all he has ever done for Rovers, I'm afraid JR has now lost the plot. There were warning signs with the Mckay fiasco and now the way he's behaved recently over the Sequentia deal has categorically proven that he's lost it.

So engage brain, think about what's on offer, and then let Terry know he has our full support. Terry has behaved with honour,  whereas I'm afraid JR has behaved like a prima donna. JR has gone, get over it. Rovers are in safe hands with Terry. That's how it should stay. We need to let him know before he walks away. So stop all this anti Terry nonsense that is currently going on. If you don't, you could well be sowing the seeds for the destruction of the club. You have been warned.

[FilanDivorce]

Does he have the overwhelming support of the fans though? I don't think he does.

Apart from one train interview for Radio Sheffield, where has he come out officially to us fans to outline what his plans are now John Ryan has left the club? He hasn't has he?

Why are the VSC not asking questions of him and his current intentions and where he see's the club going and how he's going to get us there etc?

It'd be nice to hear from Bramall.

[not on facebook]

very Much a mess at the moment from whatever side Of the
Fence Your view falls.

But only one thing that might get rovers fans onboard
To what is happening at board room level is tje Weakness
Of most fans.

.....fickelness....

If the results on the pitch should show a vast improvment what
Happens behind the scenes will go on the back burner for most fans.

Untill that is results fall away down the pan and fans look to blame all
And sundry.

This game against yeovil at KMS is not a 6 pointer Its a 36 pointer as far as DRFC is concerned.

I can just picture the fallout and major meltdown on Here should green white hoops take 1 point never mind all 3pts.

[IC1967]

Does he have the overwhelming support of the fans though? I don't think he does.

Apart from one train interview for Radio Sheffield, where has he come out officially to us fans to outline what his plans are now John Ryan has left the club? He hasn't has he?

Why are the VSC not asking questions of him and his current intentions and where he see's the club going and how he's going to get us there etc?

It'd be nice to hear from Bramall.

No he doesn't have the fans support. That is a massive danger to the future of the club. JR, and I'm sorry to say it is behaving very badly. He's trying to turn the fans against him and doing a pretty good job of it. His behaviour is starting to become unforgivable and TB needs to know we can see through what JR is doing. Unfortunately most fans are not shall we say 'the most intelligent' of folk and are quite happy to swallow whatever JR spoon feeds them. It's time for those of us with a degree of intelligence to stand up for what we believe and not to let JR get his way.

I'm sure TB will soon outline his plans for the future. At the moment he has been thrown into a firestorm and it takes a bit of time to come to terms with it.

[FilanDivorce]

I'm a very intelligent person and i'm on the side of John Ryan.

[Alickismyhero]

I take no pleasure in saying I too think that Poor John has lost the plot. Going along with SC would be a mistake too far. I made personal pleas to John, via forums, not to do it which was pointless as the plan to damage Bramall had been planed probably for weeks with SC.

Bramall now he's coming out of the shadows has impressed me as a safe pair of hands. I don't think for a minute that he we sell out to SC because Hedge Funds do not have football clubs interests at heart. They will never satisfy Bramall's criteria so its a NO DEAL.

Sad to say there is only one winner Terry Bramall. John, its over, but you are always welcome in the South Stand just don't run down our board.

Just one more point any ideas on how we let Bramall know he does have support because if he sees a banner and an orchestrated group singing Bramall out gives the wrong impression?

[FilanDivorce]

I take no pleasure in saying I too think that Poor John has lost the plot. Going along with SC would be a mistake too far. I made personal pleas to John, via forums, not to do it which was pointless as the plan to damage Bramall had been planed probably for weeks with SC.

Bramall now he's coming out of the shadows has impressed me as a safe pair of hands. I don't think for a minute that he we sell out to SC because Hedge Funds do not have football clubs interests at heart. They will never satisfy Bramall's criteria so its a NO DEAL.

Sad to say there is only one winner Terry Bramall. John, its over, but you are always welcome in the South Stand just don't run down our board.

Just one more point any ideas on how we let Bramall know he does have support because if he sees a banner and an orchestrated group singing Bramall out gives the wrong impression?

Has Bramall lost the plot then? Because he's in discussions/negotiating with SC.

It's not over for John.

[River Don]

I'm a very intelligent person and i'm on the side of John Ryan.

I'm on the side of John Ryan too.

Are you on the side of Sequentia Capital though?

[Alickismyhero]

I don't know Bramall and in the past I was sceptical about his intentions but alas I was talking to a friend of mine who has worked very closely with Bramall for a number of years. I have the great respect for my friend and know he/she is telling the truth that Bramall is an ACE guy.

 Bramall will accept the bid with SC when it is acceptable to him with the clubs interests at heart but do you think SC would make it acceptable? NO because its not the way a Hedge Fund works.

 Bramall is a hard cookie hence John had to resign because he couldn't handle him on the board.

                         "The King is Dead long live the King"

John you are a South Stand boy now and should be as proud to be there as I will be to stand next to him, but its over.

[FilanDivorce]

I'm a very intelligent person and i'm on the side of John Ryan.

I'm on the side of John Ryan too.

Are you on the side of Sequentia Capital though?

Yes, i am.

Tbf aswell when all is said and done, it's not because i am majorly against Terry Bramall. I just think we are going nowhere but down the league(s) under our current lot (JR, TB) because imo they don't have the money to push us forward (in JR's case) or don't want to fork out enough to get us competing in this league (in TB's case). I can't imagine Dick Watson wants to block any deal either, he's not in the best of health.

[River Don]

I'm a very intelligent person and i'm on the side of John Ryan.

I'm on the side of John Ryan too.

Are you on the side of Sequentia Capital though?

Yes, i am.

Tbf aswell when all is said and done, it's not because i am majorly against Terry Bramall. I just think we are going nowhere but down the league(s) under our current lot (JR, TB) because imo they don't have the money to push us forward (in JR's case) or don't want to fork out enough to get us competing in this league (in TB's case). I can't imagine Dick Watson wants to block any deal either, he's not in the best of health.

What gives you the confidence that an anonymous hedge fund, will be able to deliver all they claim, when their raison d'être is to make a lot of money for themselves and their partners?

[FilanDivorce]

I'm a very intelligent person and i'm on the side of John Ryan.

I'm on the side of John Ryan too.

Are you on the side of Sequentia Capital though?

Yes, i am.

Tbf aswell when all is said and done, it's not because i am majorly against Terry Bramall. I just think we are going nowhere but down the league(s) under our current lot (JR, TB) because imo they don't have the money to push us forward (in JR's case) or don't want to fork out enough to get us competing in this league (in TB's case). I can't imagine Dick Watson wants to block any deal either, he's not in the best of health.

What gives you the confidence that an anonymous hedge fund, will be able to deliver all they claim, when their raison d'être is to make a lot of money for themselves and their partners?

To make a lot of money they have to build this club up/have success. That needs investment.

[River Don]

I'm a very intelligent person and i'm on the side of John Ryan.

I'm on the side of John Ryan too.

Are you on the side of Sequentia Capital though?

Yes, i am.

Tbf aswell when all is said and done, it's not because i am majorly against Terry Bramall. I just think we are going nowhere but down the league(s) under our current lot (JR, TB) because imo they don't have the money to push us forward (in JR's case) or don't want to fork out enough to get us competing in this league (in TB's case). I can't imagine Dick Watson wants to block any deal either, he's not in the best of health.

What gives you the confidence that an anonymous hedge fund, will be able to deliver all they claim, when their raison d'être is to make a lot of money for themselves and their partners?

To make a lot of money they have to build this club up/have success. That needs investment.

Hedge funds don't have a great track record with football clubs, what makes Sequentia any different?

[FilanDivorce]

I'm a very intelligent person and i'm on the side of John Ryan.

I'm on the side of John Ryan too.

Are you on the side of Sequentia Capital though?

Yes, i am.

Tbf aswell when all is said and done, it's not because i am majorly against Terry Bramall. I just think we are going nowhere but down the league(s) under our current lot (JR, TB) because imo they don't have the money to push us forward (in JR's case) or don't want to fork out enough to get us competing in this league (in TB's case). I can't imagine Dick Watson wants to block any deal either, he's not in the best of health.

What gives you the confidence that an anonymous hedge fund, will be able to deliver all they claim, when their raison d'être is to make a lot of money for themselves and their partners?

To make a lot of money they have to build this club up/have success. That needs investment.

Hedge funds don't have a great track record with football clubs, what makes Sequentia any different?

Because John Ryan will have a big say/be a big help on the football side of it?

[River Don]

JohnRyan is just a fan.

[FilanDivorce]

JohnRyan is just a fan.

He's not just a fan though is he? He's a major shareholder of this club, he's a multi-millionaire and he has a fantastic track record of running this club successfully (on and off the pitch).

[River Don]

JohnRyan is just a fan.

He's not just a fan though is he? He's a major shareholder of this club, he's a multi-millionaire and he has a fantastic track record of running this club successfully (on and off the pitch).

Well he claims to be retired from running the club now. We'll see.

[FilanDivorce]

JohnRyan is just a fan.

He's not just a fan though is he? He's a major shareholder of this club, he's a multi-millionaire and he has a fantastic track record of running this club successfully (on and off the pitch).

Well he claims to be retired from running the club now. We'll see.

He's never ruled out returning if Sequentia Capital takeover though

Under the current ownership (which he of course is a part of!) and running of the club though, yes he is retired.

[Alickismyhero]

Look James/Dave or whatever you want to be called you are right that John has designs to come back with SC hence his pathetic effort at Barnsley trying to turn supporters against Bramall.

 Just read this forum it never worked.

Just let John retire in peace and stop turning supporter against supporter. Its time to move on with respect because we are now in the Bramall era lets see what he can do.

The smear campaign accusing Bramall of wanting to line his pockets will also not work when LS, part of your group?, admits that Bramall spend more than he takes out if in fact he does take anything out of the club

[Wild Rover]

There are just under 1000 members of VSC, possibly another 1000 who post on here, I would say its almost a 50/50 split as to which side of the fence someone falls on.

[FilanDivorce]

There are just under 1000 members of VSC, possibly another 1000 who post on here, I would say its almost a 50/50 split as to which side of the fence someone falls on.

How do you know this unless somebody has broken a legally binding rule and told you?

[Rovers Return]

Just been chatting to a mate and he revealed that Terry Brammall donates £3,000 a year to his kids (Doncaster) Junior Football Club. They never ask for it he justs sends it.

[FilanDivorce]

Just been chatting to a mate and he revealed that Terry Brammall donates £3,000 a year to his kids (Doncaster) Junior Football Club. They never ask for it he justs sends it.

What's that got to do with anything? 

Nice gesture though junior Sunday league football is more expensive than some would think!

[Wild Rover]

There are just under 1000 members of VSC, possibly another 1000 who post on here, I would say its almost a 50/50 split as to which side of the fence someone falls on.

How do you know this unless somebody has broken a legally binding rule and told you?

Because my membership number is 960 and I only "Joined" a couple of months ago.

or as an alternative, look at members in the banner, 71 pages, with roughly 30 names per page, 2100 members of forum, half of which by my reckoning are paid up members.

[FilanDivorce]

There are just under 1000 members of VSC, possibly another 1000 who post on here, I would say its almost a 50/50 split as to which side of the fence someone falls on.

How do you know this unless somebody has broken a legally binding rule and told you?

Because my membership number is 960 and I only "Joined" a couple of months ago.

Fair enough Wild Rover.

Red J what's yours?

[RedJ]

Good question - where do we find that out?

[albie]

TB talking to DFP on the whole shenanikins;
http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-i-don-t-fear-a-backlash-terry-bramall-1-6240921

Despite how many have tried to make it a JR v TB showdown, the real issue is that the bidder has not explained its intentions for capital appreciation (which is what Hedge Funds do).

Folks are bandying about unsubstantiated figures for money coming into DRFC, without thinking;

1) how much is share purchase cost,

2) how much is loan and debt repayment (we were about £10m in the red in 2012),

3) how much is development funding channelled through the company, and finally

4) how much is football expenditure?