Improving atmosphere at the Keepmoat

[glosterred]

I'd agree that having a good football team is the best way to improve atmosphere and increase attendances, but when that isn't going so well you have to look at the other things, which is what this is all about.

I appreciate that - but without the good footballing team it doesn't matter how much to discount tickets etc. people will not put their bum on a seat. So to get the increase in attendance you have to invest in the team and that alone will attract people to come and watch. Playing good football and winning will attract more people through the turnstile than any discount will do.

COYR

[Mr1Croft]

I'd agree that having a good football team is the best way to improve atmosphere and increase attendances, but when that isn't going so well you have to look at the other things, which is what this is all about.

I appreciate that - but without the good footballing team it doesn't matter how much to discount tickets etc. people will not put their bum on a seat. So to get the increase in attendance you have to invest in the team and that alone will attract people to come and watch. Playing good football and winning will attract more people through the turnstile than any discount will do.

COYR

The last time we won League One 2 years ago I'm sure I read that we had the lowest ever average attendance in the history of any football club that has won any of the top 4 leagues. Whilst I can appreciate we didn't win as many at home as we did away, we were still a successful title winning team and that didn't see a rapid increase in attendances. So perhaps winning isn't everything.

[glosterred]

I'd agree that having a good football team is the best way to improve atmosphere and increase attendances, but when that isn't going so well you have to look at the other things, which is what this is all about.

I appreciate that - but without the good footballing team it doesn't matter how much to discount tickets etc. people will not put their bum on a seat. So to get the increase in attendance you have to invest in the team and that alone will attract people to come and watch. Playing good football and winning will attract more people through the turnstile than any discount will do.

COYR

The last time we won League One 2 years ago I'm sure I read that we had the lowest ever average attendance in the history of any football club that has won any of the top 4 leagues. Whilst I can appreciate we didn't win as many at home as we did away, we were still a successful title winning team and that didn't see a rapid increase in attendances. So perhaps winning isn't everything.

Playing good football might be or not as the case was

COYR

[Sammy Chung was King]

Younger people make more noise,it's never been disputed,get it organised for each school in the borough to be given two hundred tickets for a certain game where the crowd will be low.
Organise it so the schools lay on a coach with teachers supervising,say at a night match,let the schools organise it as an organised day out,the kids who are picked decided by the school,out of that two hundred,you might twenty to thirty extra supporters,may be more,for future games.

Encourage younger supporters as long as they are just shouting for the team,and not causing problems,try and talk to some of the younger supporters,and may be they are better kids than some assume they are,this creates an all in it together attitude.
Drum and Singing section,use the tv for putting the words out so everybody knows the words to the songs the older supporters know,they need to be passed down to the next generation.
Offer reduced match tickets for the unemployed,not everybody is a scrounger,like the papers try to brainwash you with.
Use those clapper things,give a few hundred out free to the kids.

[Hag]

Excellent idea's, will they be acted on, no chance, why, beats me!

Quid a kid in the conference, since then have we ever come up with owt to compare with that?

[idler]

Sammy, 200 kids would probably mean four coaches and four teachers. I can't see any school spending some of their budget on transport costs like this even if they could find teachers willing to give their time up for free.
There might even be insurance costs on top and if it's a night game possibly too late for the kids to be up.
Maybe a Saturday game might bring a few but I still think that hiring coaches would be too expensive.
A mates son is a teacher in Bradford. He works at a school in a run down area. Sometimes he takes the football team to games at Valley Parade and even Old Trafford. They are all together after school but he has to drop them off individually after the game.
That is just a minibus full not a coach and very time consuming.

[bobjimwilly]

My original post wasn't concerned with increasing attendances, it was how to improve the atmosphere with those people who already attend. Increasing attendances and ticket prices is a huge separate subject altogther, although obviously linked to atmosphere.

[roversam]

 I wonder if its cos we've been shite at home, if we were playing well and banging plenty of goals in even I might sing.

[hoolahoop]

there int enough people that want to sing at KMS these days

Dave , that can change and it always happens at away games. Just need folk like you to come up with some ideas. If our team ever runs into a purple patch of results ...then you will hear the singers.
Fact is the Keepmoat is gripped in an all pervading cloud of doom and gloom ; this can only be put down to ridiculous results at home for the last 3 seasons.
Win and they will come, win and there will be more of them, win and they have summat to sing about.
When was the last clear cut win at home, when has there been a decent run of form at home  ?

[Boomstick]

Evening all. Some of you may have heard of a bloke called Mark Bradley from the Fan Experience Company? He's the bald Mackem that has been at a couple of meet the owners evenings in the past; his company basically helps bring fans closer to their clubs and improve overall customer service.

In the past he has worked with supporters groups such as Red Faction at Middlesbrough and North Stand Loyal at Huddersfield to help them improve the atmosphere at home games by creating singing/standing sections, amongst other things. Mark has kindly offered to help us, DRFC fans, achieve these things at the Keepmoat by meeting with the fans, finding out what we want and how we can get the club to agree to our terms.

Of course, there may be stumbling blocks that fans and the club have to overcome, but by all meeting up with Mark, separate from the club, I think there's a strong chance we can all get what we want. But Mark needs supporters who want things such as singing and standing sections to meet up with him and get the ball rolling. Does anyone on here like the sound of this? Who would be prepared to meet up, without the club present, to talk about what you want?
If anyone can help improve the atmosphere at the Keepmoat, I'm sure it's Mark.

Let me know what you think?

(I've asked this on the DRFC Facebook Group with little response, so I'm hoping some people on here, preferable a mix of VSC and non-VSC members, will respond. If you want to respond via Facebook, my post on there can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2208820057/permalink/10154738504330058/)

Just to clarify, this isn't specifically a VSC led campaign or anything; the club want views from all sections of support to be heard! Thanks.

 

Personally I think this is a very good thing , and something I am interested in.
Whilst I'm very busy and can't afford the time for attending meetings, I would like to contribute on this forum.
What are the first steps regarding this? Presumably is agreeing on an area of the stadium, and coming up with a name for the singing group. Something testosterone filled, to inspire a sense of belonging to the predominantly young males that will be interested in this.

[bobjimwilly]

Sorry but the idea is to all meet up in person and actually organise something, as opposed to commenting/discussing online, which everyone is still welcome to do 24/7

[Bristol Red Rover]

How about leafleting info about this the areas where supporters who do make noise gather. May be good to set a date and time and offer some preliminary discussion items - one's that can be resolved.

An meeting located somewhere in the centre of town rather than at the KM maybe better.

[ravenrover]

It's really all down to what is happening on the pitch. Give the crowd something to shout about be it a crunching tackle a great piece of passing or heaven forbid a decent shot on goal and suddenly the place comes alive well at least it does in theWest stand south end

[Bentley Bullet]

When John Ryan was on board the town awoke from its nonchalance and sat up. When Ryan left it laid back down again.

[DaveDRFC]

When John Ryan was on board the town awoke from its nonchalance and sat up. When Ryan left it laid back down again.

Not sure about that. The season of the experiment was the worst 6 months of football I have ever witnessed (I only started watching Rovers in the first season in the conference, for those who will have seen the Richardson years). I've still not really recovered my love of football since then and have only attended a handful of games the last 3 seasons after being a season ticket holder and away game regular for the previous 7 or 8. Obviously there have been other factors, mortgage payments and work getting in the way, becoming a dad etc but the simple fact of the matter is I just don't like football as much as I used to.

[Boomstick]

Sorry but the idea is to all meet up in person and actually organise something, as opposed to commenting/discussing online, which everyone is still welcome to do 24/7

f**k sake, its no wonder why the vsc clique had alienated its self from the majority of drfc fans, with comments like that.
I make a perfectly reasoned post, and it gets rebuffed.
f**k yourself

[bpoolrover]

The football during the experiment was not that bad

[IDM]

Sorry but the idea is to all meet up in person and actually organise something, as opposed to commenting/discussing online, which everyone is still welcome to do 24/7

f**k sake, its no wonder why the vsc clique had alienated its self from the majority of drfc fans, with comments like that.
I make a perfectly reasoned post, and it gets rebuffed.
f**k yourself

Talk about an overreaction!!

The OP was all about meeting someone who would try and help - bjw reminded you of that without being offensive etc and you react like this??

You could have responded along the lines of "Yes I understand about the meeting, but I can't make it.  If anyone would represent my views (in person) I'll be happy to PM my thoughts."

but no, we get anti-vsc jibes and "f**k yourself"

[Sammy Chung was King]

It's a shame there isn't a rail link from the villages straight to the stadium and shopping centre,that would help with getting people there,i know the club charges no more than most to get in,but deals on games where we will get a low crowd would be a good way to bump attendances up.
What about having a Big team come and play a friendly when we keep getting free weeks?.

[bobjimwilly]

does anyone have any interest in meeting up to talk about singing sections, standing sections, unreserved seating? any south stand ticket holders have any opinions on this?

[Sheepskin Stu]

I'd be interested in meeting up to talk about shagging 21 year old fillies, high quality cannabis and cheese.

[Glyn_Wigley]

 

I'd be interested in meeting up to talk about shagging 21 year old fillies, high quality cannabis and cheese.

I'm not certain I'd want to meet up with a self-confessed cheese-shagger! 

[Sheepskin Stu]

I'd be interested in meeting up to talk about shagging 21 year old fillies, high quality cannabis and cheese.

I'm not certain I'd want to meet up with a self-confessed cheese-shagger! 

Look, there's nothing wrong with Brie.

[bobbymax]

Sorry but the idea is to all meet up in person and actually organise something, as opposed to commenting/discussing online, which everyone is still welcome to do 24/7

f*** sake, its no wonder why the vsc clique had alienated its self from the majority of drfc fans, with comments like that.
I make a perfectly reasoned post, and it gets rebuffed.
f*** yourself

Talk about an overreaction!!

The OP was all about meeting someone who would try and help - bjw reminded you of that without being offensive etc and you react like this??

You could have responded along the lines of "Yes I understand about the meeting, but I can't make it.  If anyone would represent my views (in person) I'll be happy to PM my thoughts."

but no, we get anti-vsc jibes and "f*** yourself"

I know I'm a latecomer to this thread and I was going to suggest something but reading this response has left me so utterly despondent that I've completely forgotten what I was thinking.

There are some deeply disturbing psychological issues surrounding certain individuals who frequent this forum!

[Glyn_Wigley]

I'd be interested in meeting up to talk about shagging 21 year old fillies, high quality cannabis and cheese.

I'm not certain I'd want to meet up with a self-confessed cheese-shagger! 

Look, there's nothing wrong with Brie.

You won't be saying that when you've caught cheese mites off it!

[RedRover45]

I'd be interested in meeting up to talk about shagging 21 year old fillies, high quality cannabis and cheese.

I'm not certain I'd want to meet up with a self-confessed cheese-shagger! 

Look, there's nothing wrong with Brie.

You won't be saying that when you've caught cheese mites off it!

Conjures up uncomfortable thoughts of knob cheese