Happy Hour over at Brammall Lane

[southwestexile]

Lifelong fan Paul Heaton has now distanced himself from the club over Evans training with them. What muppet brought him back. Just shows that some clubs are run far worse than ours

[steve@dcfd]

About same really we allowed a muppet to managed our club for the last 16 month.

[acacia94]

Never was much of a Housemartins or Beautiful South fan but Donny Rovers would give an arm for patrons in the same league as Paul Heaton. The reason his resignation is significant is because he was a patron, an ambassador and supporter of the club. He's withdrawn that patronage, as is his choice, because he no longer wants to be associated with an organisation that is directly involved with, and by association, supporting a convicted rapist.
Fair do's Paul.

[podrover73]

About same really we allowed a muppet to managed our club for the last 16 month.

   zzzzz yawn yawn

[River Don]

What with the dire publicity, the loss of sponsors and all the damage to the brand, it can't make financial sense to bring this player back into Sheffield United.

They really ought to have distanced themselves from it long ago.

Still, apparently they're Sheffield United and the do what they want...

[not on facebook]

Lifelong fan Paul Heaton has now distanced himself from the club over Evans training with them. What muppet brought him back. Just shows that some clubs are run far worse than ours

"What a good place to be"

[Colin C No.3]

What with the dire publicity, the loss of sponsors and all the damage to the brand, it can't make financial sense to bring this player back into Sheffield United.

They really ought to have distanced themselves from it long ago.

Still, apparently they're Sheffield United and the do what they want...

P'raps they need Sheepskin Stu over there to 'enlighten' them with his sexist 'jokes' & comments on how best to 'take advantage' of a woman.

[acko]

if mr heaton had taken the time to read the official court summary of evans trial he may be having a rethink about his decision.inapproprriate behaviour yes rape no chance,the sweet little innocent girl was not only drunk she had also been on drugs earlier in the evening.expert witness concluded she was lying when she supposedly lost her memory of the evening.the judge has been heaverly critisised since for adding his own interpritation of events when addressing the jury not evidence.i am more certain now that evans will win his appeal and placed my money accordingly,unfortunatley the bookies think same odds crap

[IDM]

acko you may perhaps be correct about the evidence etc but this is down to the legal system to sort out, not you, and not me.

Until Evans clears his name he'll have the stigma of a rape conviction, however fair or not that is.  Until that time, Heaton, Ennis-Hill etc will disassociate themselves from Sheff Utd.

[Glyn_Wigley]

if mr heaton had taken the time to read the official court summary of evans trial he may be having a rethink about his decision.inapproprriate behaviour yes rape no chance,the sweet little innocent girl was not only drunk she had also been on drugs earlier in the evening.expert witness concluded she was lying when she supposedly lost her memory of the evening.the judge has been heaverly critisised since for adding his own interpritation of events when addressing the jury not evidence.i am more certain now that evans will win his appeal and placed my money accordingly,unfortunatley the bookies think same odds crap

Does it say anywhere in the court transcripts that she agreed to have sex with Evans? If not, it's you who needs to have a rethink about what constitutes rape.

[acko]

still doesnt answer the question what does a patron do,and to you glyn it doesnt say anywhere she didnt agree but the night porter thought it sounded like she was enjoying it

[hoolahoop]

if mr heaton had taken the time to read the official court summary of evans trial he may be having a rethink about his decision.inapproprriate behaviour yes rape no chance,the sweet little innocent girl was not only drunk she had also been on drugs earlier in the evening.expert witness concluded she was lying when she supposedly lost her memory of the evening.the judge has been heaverly critisised since for adding his own interpritation of events when addressing the jury not evidence.i am more certain now that evans will win his appeal and placed my money accordingly,unfortunatley the bookies think same odds crap

Does it say anywhere in the court transcripts that she agreed to have sex with Evans? If not, it's you who needs to have a rethink about what constitutes rape.

Exactly, pity the girls who cross your path acko. Daft and dangerous lad you certainly are if you think this scumbag deserves your support.
Clearly she didn't give her consent either wittingly or unwittingly, just because a lass is pissed/drugged up doesn't give all and sundry permission to have sex with her surely ?
Why do you sit and plough through court transcripts, what's your angle or agenda here....?

[acko]

money, gambler that likes to study facts before betting

[IDM]

money, gambler that likes to study facts before betting

So what's more important to you?

Seeing a potentially innocent man getting his good name back from a wrong conviction?  Seeing a rape victim being protected by the conviction being upheld? Seeing justice being correctly served either way?

Or making a quick buck by betting on the outcome????

Bet on the football by all means but betting on the outcome of the appeal for a convicted rapist???  What have we come to eh?

I find it abhorrent that the bookies are even offering odds on such a case.

[acko]

seeing justice done idm,and at the moment i dont see that with evans until the law is changed he should by free to apply his trade,i think the yorkshire ripper should have hung along with a lot more but the law says no so i have to abide with that its note to do with the moral ground its law

[IDM]

He is free to apply his trade, but potential employers are also free to refuse to take him on, on the grounds of his unspent conviction.  Both those circumstances are are within the law.

[acko]

i agree and because sheff unt allowes him to train its there choice,still dont know what patrons do,enioyed the chat idm you got your oppinion ive got mine,and i dont think we will find a common ground on this

[Chris Black come back]

He's got an application in for some formal review of his case. If this decides that actually the conviction was dodgy, what happens then? Lot of folk have taken some fairly strong positions.

If the review concluded it was rock solid then if he wants any hope of playing professional football again then he needs to apologise, accept the result and start from the bottom of the pyramid and work upwards.

[Glyn_Wigley]

seeing justice done idm,and at the moment i dont see that with evans until the law is changed he should by free to apply his trade,i think the yorkshire ripper should have hung along with a lot more but the law says no so i have to abide with that its note to do with the moral ground its law

Change the law to what?

And nobody's stopping him from plying his trade, anyone is free to sign him if they want to.

[Hag]

i am more certain now that evans will win his appeal and placed my money accordingly,unfortunatley the bookies think same odds crap

Bookies taking bets on rape cases?