Can't read ye-old writing

[bobjimwilly]

Whilst doing my genealogy I came across a name from the 1851 census and I can't quite make out the surname (see attached images - bottom name in big picture).
The transcript records the person as "Ann Acheltin". I believe the first name is "Ann"; however I can't find anything to do with a surname "Acheltin", and the first letter of the surname doesn't look like an "A" to me (see how the "A" looks in "Anne"). It might be two letters joined up?

Can anyone help? 

[wilts rover]

Hi BJW

Its Ocheltree (or Ochiltree)

it's my job btw. If you have any ancestors in the military let me know and I might be able to help.

[bobjimwilly]

Hi BJW

Its Ocheltree (or Ochiltree)

it's my job btw. If you have any ancestors in the military let me know and I might be able to help.

Brilliant Wilts! Found her and her family in the 1841 Census - O'Cheltrie. Cheers.

[idler]

Hi BJW

Its Ocheltree (or Ochiltree)

it's my job btw. If you have any ancestors in the military let me know and I might be able to help.

Hi Wilts, is there an easy way to find out what clasps my grandad was entitled to on his Queens South Africa medal. I'm replacing his medals but can't remember if he had three or four clasps on it. I can Remember some but not sure of others. Thanks, Dave

[wilts rover]

If you have his service record then that will tell you, failing that there might be something in the records of the unit he served with at the time. If he was in a Yeomanry Unit their records are online here

http://www.angloboerwar.com/unit-information/imperial-yeomanry-by-company/1946-imperial-yeomanry

I will ask at work tomorrow what sources we have that aren't online yet.

[idler]

Cheers Wilts. He was in the KOYLI for seven years from 1896 to 1903.
He then did another stint in WW1 training troops and ended a sergeant and was seconded to the RFC briefly.
Dave

[wilts rover]

Then you have a pretty good chance of finding his info Dave, the museum in Doncaster still hold a lot of KOLYI information. Have you tried searching the National Archives for his service record?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/

[Dagenham Rover]

Its absouletly amazing the  skills and jobs of people on here

[Filo]

I've traced some of my family back to around 1770, although I am struggling to find where my great grandparents are buried, I'm assuming they are somwhere around the Goldthorpe area as the lived in Highgate lane Goldthorpe according to the 1911 census. I have discovered that my Great Great Grandmother is buried in a cemetery in Utah USA

[BobG]

How on Earth did she get out there? Take up as being one of Joseph Smith's many wives did she?!

BobG

[Filo]

How on Earth did she get out there? Take up as being one of Joseph Smith's many wives did she?!

BobG

Not far off Bob, converted to mormonism before emigrating out there with here husband, her two oldest sons were bas**rds, the oldest one being my Great Grandfather who stayed in this Country and married his wife and had at least 18 kids to my knowledge, all miners from the Goldthorpe area

[BobG]

Gordon Bennett Filo! I meant my quip as a silly joke. Bloody hell. So there's going to be countless hundreds of ersatz Filo's running around the US of A then!

Bloody hell!

BobG

[Filo]

Gordon Bennett Filo! I meant my quip as a silly joke. Bloody hell. So there's going to be countless hundreds of ersatz Filo's running around the US of A then!

Bloody hell!

BobG

Inferior ones Bob, they're only half genetically related on the maternal line

[BobG]

Oh. True. Thank God for that!

Bob

[The Red Baron]

Hi BJW

Its Ocheltree (or Ochiltree)

it's my job btw. If you have any ancestors in the military let me know and I might be able to help.

You sound like you have the kind of job I would love, Wilts!

[Dutch Uncle]

 

[idler]

Then you have a pretty good chance of finding his info Dave, the museum in Doncaster still hold a lot of KOLYI information. Have you tried searching the National Archives for his service record?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/

Thanks Wilts.
I've not had any luck so far.  I think that I might be able to find it by paying a months subscription to Ancestor.co.uk
I should be able to find him with a bit of luck. There is no facility on Genes reunited which I subscribe to at the minute. I have copies of his signing on form and his discharge but nothing in between. Good job I'm retired now.
Thanks again, Dave

[wilts rover]

What's his name Dave and I will see what I can find?

We don't have anything specifically on the KOYLI at work unfortunately.

[idler]

Cheers Wilts,  his name was Albert Frost, born 1876 parish of St. George, Doncaster. Army No. 4540
Thanks, Dave

[River Don]

We managed to get our family back to a butcher named Roebuck who lived in Wadworth in the early 19th Centuary. All that time and we've hardly moved.

[wilts rover]

Hi Dave

Apologies he is featured on our site and is said to have both SA medals, the Queen's with the clasps Be (Belmont) Mr (Modder River) and Of (Orange Free State), presumably he would have the 1901 and 1902 clasps too? It is strange however that he doesn't appear on the Boer War Website, maybe they have not transcribed the KOYLI yet, but it is certainly worthwhile posting on their forum to check, they are the A-BW experts and its free.

Info on what the KOYLI did in the war and in what order you should mount the clasps here
http://angloboerwar.com/unit-information/imperial-units/674-yorkshire-light-infantry
http://angloboerwar.com/medals-and-awards/british/1875-queens-south-africa-medal

[idler]

Hi Wilts, that's great thanks.
I have bought copies of five of his medals including the KSA with two bars on 1901 & 1902.
I was trying to work the QSA bars out but just couldn't remember which they were. The Belmont one is ironic because he lived in Queen St. Balby and the next road along is Belmont Ave. I at least got Modder River and Orange Free State right. There is a firm on ebay that sells copies complete  with whichever bars you want. If I don't see one with that combination I'll order one from them. Can I get you a beer on Saturday?

[wilts rover]

Just glad to help and that I could find the info for you. I wont be able to make it today but you can have a beer for your granddad instead.

[idler]

Just glad to help and that I could find the info for you. I wont be able to make it today but you can have a beer for your granddad instead.

I'll have to leave that until tomorrow Wilts. I've had a dry February so will raise a glass then with my dinner.
Thanks again, Dave
Ps. The offer of a pint carries over for the rest of the season