Immigration

[BillyStubbsTears]

Savvy

I haven't got a clue what you're talking about. I gave you my sources. I was asking you where your quote from Migration Watch came from and where their substantiation was for their economic claims.

[jucyberry]

Personally, I'm sick to death with being swamped with immigrants.. Taking all the housing, all the doctors appointments round here. It's just not on..........










Bloody London oap's selling up and moving here to choke all our resources and then  die. 

[Savvy]

Savvy

I haven't got a clue what you're talking about. I gave you my sources. I was asking you where your quote from Migration Watch came from and where their substantiation was for their economic claims.

Billy I didn't see your two links before I posted so I apologise for that, here is the link for the source I'm referring to;

http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/sites/files/migobs/briefing%20-%20Fiscal%20Impacts_0.pdf

[River Don]

To all those who say the country is overcrowded: what do you think is the optimum population of this country? If you think we're overcrowded you must know at what number the scales were tipped from full to overcrowded.

It's impossible to put a figure on overcrowded. Back in Tudor times they thought the minimum a man needed to survive was four acres. That would provide enough sustenance for a family. Few actually managed to get 4 acres of their own.

The UK hasnt actually grown enough food to feed itself since before the war. Without imports we'd begin to starve, is that a fair indication of overcrowding?

And it's not just an issue of when is full. It's the rate of population increase that makes it difficult to plan and adapt. It's the lack of control over immigration that is a problem too.

[Snods Shinpad 2]

Are you happy for the already overburdened and overstretched NHS to have to treat all the thousands of immigrants? At a cost of the quality of care offered is much lower in order to cope? Really?

You haven't spent much time in any hospitals recently have you Boomstick?

Without immigrant labour there would be an almighty crisis in the NHS. It is immigrant labour that is keeping the whole thing afloat.

[IC1967]

To all those who say the country is overcrowded: what do you think is the optimum population of this country? If you think we're overcrowded you must know at what number the scales were tipped from full to overcrowded.

There is no optimum level. It's not an exact science. If I was the benevolent dictator of the country I'd want to see it at no more than 50 million.

Right. I've answered your question. You answer mine. What figure is too large each year for immigration or are you happy for as many that want to come to be let in? Following your logic there must be an optimum number of immigrants before it becomes self defeating. Your leftie mates can help you out.

[IC1967]

Are you happy for the already overburdened and overstretched NHS to have to treat all the thousands of immigrants? At a cost of the quality of care offered is much lower in order to cope? Really?

You haven't spent much time in any hospitals recently have you Boomstick?

Without immigrant labour there would be an almighty crisis in the NHS. It is immigrant labour that is keeping the whole thing afloat.

Just because the NHS needs immigrants doesn't mean we should let in the vast numbers we currently do. Immigration is is not the solution to the NHS staffing. WE should be training our own people to be able to do the job. It's a fact that if we didn't have such huge immigration there would be no one on the dole. We'd have full employment. Once that point is reached then we can bring in immigrants to fulfill our employment needs.

Another factor to consider is that a lot of our brightest and best young people are emigrating to the likes of Australia and New Zealand. Why? They can't afford to buy a house in the UK and quality of life is much better as these countries aren't overpopulated.

[Savvy]

Are you happy for the already overburdened and overstretched NHS to have to treat all the thousands of immigrants? At a cost of the quality of care offered is much lower in order to cope? Really?

You haven't spent much time in any hospitals recently have you Boomstick?

Without immigrant labour there would be an almighty crisis in the NHS. It is immigrant labour that is keeping the whole thing afloat.

Is that something else we should be proud of Nationally? Have we lost the ability to train suitable people to do such work or are the current incumbents a cheap option or merely people doing work that people don't want to do?

Another disgrace along with food banks, how we go to these G8 and G20 summits and hold our heads up is beyond me!!!

[Snods Shinpad 2]

Are you happy for the already overburdened and overstretched NHS to have to treat all the thousands of immigrants? At a cost of the quality of care offered is much lower in order to cope? Really?

You haven't spent much time in any hospitals recently have you Boomstick?

Without immigrant labour there would be an almighty crisis in the NHS. It is immigrant labour that is keeping the whole thing afloat.

Is that something else we should be proud of Nationally? Have we lost the ability to train suitable people to do such work or are the current incumbents a cheap option or merely people doing work that people don't want to do?

Another disgrace along with food banks, how we go to these G8 and G20 summits and hold our heads up is beyond me!!!

I agree it is a disgrace and nothing to be proud of.

I'm responding to Broomstick's sweeping assertion that immigration is causing a mess in the NHS when the opposite is true.

Immigrant labour is keeping the system going and improving the quality of care.

[IC1967]

To all those who say the country is overcrowded: what do you think is the optimum population of this country? If you think we're overcrowded you must know at what number the scales were tipped from full to overcrowded.

There is no optimum level. It's not an exact science. If I was the benevolent dictator of the country I'd want to see it at no more than 50 million.

Right. I've answered your question. You answer mine. What figure is too large each year for immigration or are you happy for as many that want to come to be let in? Following your logic there must be an optimum number of immigrants before it becomes self defeating. Your leftie mates can help you out.

I'm still waiting. Typical. I answer the question like I always do and you lefties don't answer mine. I wonder why. Now get on with it or I'll expect an abject apology at the very least.

[nice one rovers]

I would've thought a landlord of multiple properties such as yourself would be delighted with demand outstripping supply in the housing market.

I don't need to rely on mass immigration to let my properties. I have such an excellent reputation as a landlord I have a queue of people wanting to rent off me. I believe I am the best landlord in the country. My tenants are customers and as such I bend over backwards to ensure they are very happy in my properties.

I am a shining beacon in landlord world. I do prefer Polish tenants as they are hardworking and very easy to get along with. They take a pride in living in my properties and don't want to live anywhere else. They are so appreciative of the service I give them that they even bring me gifts when they come back from holiday. I could teach other landlords a thing or two.

Of course demand outstripping supply in the housing market is very good news for me financially but I'm not all about money. I would prefer my houses to fall in value because this would mean young people could actually afford to buy a house rather than be condemned to renting all their lives. My children are lucky that they have me as a father. I can make sure they don't fall into the renting trap as I am so wealthy. However I would like children who don't have wealthy parents to be able to afford to buy a house.

Unlimited immigration is making this harder and harder as every year passes. That's only one problem. There are many more. Of course there are some benefits to immigration but to maximise these benefits it needs to be controlled.

I think I've rumbled you. I'm pretty sure that you are actually a character created by a shit alternative comedian, or a character in a new spoof show in the vein of Brasseye or Ali G.