Is Fergie God

[Upton Rover]

Seems to me that no one on here doesn't want to put any blame on DF. You all slagged PD off after every bad result. I think we have to be questioning DF ability as a manager. He as only one plan Attack Attack Attack. And it's just not working out here. So this is a poor manager who can not put plan B or C into action. Yes we have some poor players but surley they are up to this league. We need to be getting more out of them. Yesterdays starting 11 was probably the worst starting 11 that anyone could pick. Why the hell leave players like Williams and Evina on the bench. Maderville looked like a little boy lost yesterday. DF needs to revert back to a 4 4 2 or we will be doomed.

[MrWoodySir]

He's definitely devoid of criticism from some. The man only has us what one (?) place above what we were when he came in. If we do go down he has failed and therefore should be disposed of. We kept Dickov after relegation - that turned out well didn't it? 

[jonnydog]

Most on here gave PD more chances than maybe he deserved. The cocked up takeovers scuppered him in building his own team for the first few opportunities, so I think most wanted to see what he would do with 'his' team and players. He got that opportunity and didn't do a good job at all.

If this time next season DF has not made any progress and the team he's put together are not succeeding then, and only then, will I be criticising him as the manager.

DF looks much more animated than PD in a 'savvy' sense when you watch him I.e. telling the players what he wants during the game (from the dugout), and will also seemingly have a go at them when they f**k up... they just don't seem to be doing what he wants. Whereas PD just seem to moan and argued with the officials.

No, DF is not God, but have faith!!

[Superspy]

The thing is, it's all well and good saying people slagged PD off after every bad result..but he had a couple of years to get it right in the first place. Right now we're looking at a squad of players who have somehow gone from the 2nd best team in the division over 10 games to one of the worst, seemingly over night. There's not a lot of point in aiming the criticism squarely at the manager when we just happen to be on a bad run, particularly after watching games like yesterday where once again we had decent chances and the PLAYERS didn't capitalise on them.

[Campsall rover]

We did play a 4 at the back yesterday.
           Stuckman
 Lund-Alcock-Butler-ATS
             McCulloch
       Grant         Calder
                Gooch
      Mandeville - Tyson

[Donnywolf]

In always used to say "Oh God" or "Jesus" or something worse whenever I saw his dad - so I would say he must be the son of God

[Filo]

I thought David Icke was god, so Fergie can't be god can he? 😀

[sheffield exile1]

There is a theory in team formation called forming, storming, norming and performing. I wonder if we are at stage 2 at DRFC. As has been said we have moved from a team of performers (who looked capable enough at Burton and Southend away) so possibly in the forming stage, as in trying to impress/show form, to Fergie seeing them day in day out and sussing some out, attitude, ambition, loyalty and putting some of these into question, hence the storming period. Its just a thought. If some don't like his style, hints maybe about looking for a new club, don't want to work under him, could surely affect the team. We know its openly discussed that he will be shedding and buying in/loaning new, so maybe its attitude that need work rather than skill. Its a big job for the manager in those circumstances, more than just shouty time, its psychology time. Of course I could be completely wrong, but interested to hear folks views?

[Chris Black come back]

If he takes us down he will be a very bad manager indeed.

This is a piss poor league and he took us over comfortably safe and made us even safer, but is now pissing it away.

What makes it all the worse is that like Dickov in the Championship run-in, there are no real injuries! Pissing it away with full squad.

[PDX_Rover]

I'd look at the Chairman personally. Has he stuck to his word when DF was appointed? I think Mr Blunt has some questions to answer, perhaps?

[drfchound]

The thing is, it's all well and good saying people slagged PD off after every bad result..but he had a couple of years to get it right in the first place. Right now we're looking at a squad of players who have somehow gone from the 2nd best team in the division over 10 games to one of the worst, seemingly over night. There's not a lot of point in aiming the criticism squarely at the manager when we just happen to be on a bad run, particularly after watching games like yesterday where once again we had decent chances and the PLAYERS didn't capitalise on them.

Dickov took lots of stick when players like Williams and Main missed chances didn't he?
If you can't balme the manager now, why was it right to blame PD then?

[wilts rover]

Go on then PDX what are they? He was promised the money to buy Messi and Ronaldo but we refused to meet the wage demands?

Darren Ferguson was brought in to work with these players. In December he had them playing well and was quoted in the press at being happy with the team and only wanting to bring one player in (to replace Anderson) and this turned out to be Gooch. In addition he said the squad size was too large and players would be leaving - which they have done.

What has happened since then is that we have gone on a terrible run. Why?
Did he overestimate the quality in December - that's his fault not the chairman?
Are his training methods so poor that the longer he spends with the players the more confused and worse they become - that's his fault not the chairman?
Are his man management skills up to getting a team out of a bad run of form? He never really had one in his promotion seasons, but when it did go wrong at both Posh and Preston he couldn't change it and got the sack.

The only questions I could think off for the chairman would be: did you appoint the right man & how long are you going to give him - what are yours?

[MrFrost]

Go on then PDX what are they? He was promised the money to buy Messi and Ronaldo but we refused to meet the wage demands?

Darren Ferguson was brought in to work with these players. In December he had them playing well and was quoted in the press at being happy with the team and only wanting to bring one player in (to replace Anderson) and this turned out to be Gooch. In addition he said the squad size was too large and players would be leaving - which they have done.

What has happened since then is that we have gone on a terrible run. Why?
Did he overestimate the quality in December - that's his fault not the chairman?
Are his training methods so poor that the longer he spends with the players the more confused and worse they become - that's his fault not the chairman?
Are his man management skills up to getting a team out of a bad run of form? He never really had one in his promotion seasons, but when it did go wrong at both Posh and Preston he couldn't change it and got the sack.

The only questions I could think off for the chairman would be: did you appoint the right man & how long are you going to give him - what are yours?

I'd ask, why, for two seasons in a row when they've openly stated that the target is promotion, have we failed miserably?

[DonnyOsmond]

If he takes us down he will be a very bad manager indeed.

This is a piss poor league and he took us over comfortably safe and made us even safer, but is now pissing it away.

We were 2nd bottom?

[dickos1]

If he takes us down he will be a very bad manager indeed.

This is a piss poor league and he took us over comfortably safe and made us even safer, but is now pissing it away.

What makes it all the worse is that like Dickov in the Championship run-in, there are no real injuries! Pissing it away with full squad.

We weren't comfortably safe when he took over

[Sammy Chung was King]

I suspect many think because he is called Ferguson, he is getting less pressure than anybody else would. I don't think that's the case, his links with his dad haven't been used to bring players in as far as i am aware, he hasn't loaned from ex team mates.
For me he has had a lot of leeway because of the mess we were already in.
 Even when we were winning games under him we all knew there were still problems in the team needed to be sorted out.

He had january and for whatever reason he didn't really bring many in. I would suspect that the one's he wants were either not available, or that they wanted fees for players, when maybe in the summer, he could get them on a free transfer.
Be honest the way we started when he came in, he will have thought as we did, that we could wait until the season ended, because we had enough to stay up.

My thoughts on Ferguson haven't changed, he wasn't my choice, but i think he is a good manager at this level.
 From what i have seen so far my original thoughts on him, were that he doesn't believe in building a good defence. I thought he might have learned from being at the other clubs, but he hasn't, it's a weakness of his.
Tactically when he came in he said , he wanted the players to be able to adapt to different formations, but he has stook rigidly to 3-5-2.
He hasn't changed even though the evidence has mounted up that it isn't suiting our players.
I think he is a good manager, his job when he came in was to keep us up, whether it's his team or not.
 If we were relegated then the board would have to let him go.

But i don't see that happening, we will stay up, but the players need to stop feeling sorry for themselves and be men, they got us in this mess, it's their job to dig us out of it!.
What i would say to Ferguson is take a leaf out of your old mans book. He always had attacking teams, but he always built good defences, do the same and you might last as long in the game, don't and you won't, sometimes people are too pigheaded to do things right.