Well...

[PDX_Rover]

Barring a miracle we look like starting in League 2 next season. Currently 3-1 down to Colchester...

To be honest, I'm pissed off but I'm thinking if we do go down, we need to clear the decks and regroup.

I don't blame the board. They've put their money in. Give Darren Ferguson the opportunity to clean out some of the dross we've signed in the past two seasons and start over.

I'd rather us be competitive in the league below and build momentum that way than the current sorry state of affairs.

Mind you, same applies if we mange to stay up. A huge job needed over the summer.

[bpoolrover]

Starting with the manager

[PDX_Rover]

There is that. He's not doing anything like the job he should be at the moment. Be interesting if he gets the chop or not. I don't like to think of Rovers as a firing club but I think this has to be the worst run I've ever seen is go through...

[Arksey rover]

Maybe they don't want to play for him ? . Something drastically wrong here. Who knows what it is ?

[PDX_Rover]

Definitely something rotten.

[DonnyOsmond]

Maybe they don't want to play for him ? . Something drastically wrong here. Who knows what it is ?

A number of players have signed new contracts, I doubt they have a problem with Fergie as a manager.

[PDX_Rover]

4-1 down now. Really, he should be fired based on results. The buck stops with the manager ultimately.

[steve@dcfd]

The problem starts and finishes with the board. Appointed two managers allowed them to bring in players, the teams are the worst we've had since the Richardson era. Conference is where we are heading who ever is manager.

[PDX_Rover]

Who can we bring in? Any ideas?

[PDX_Rover]

The problem starts and finishes with the board. Appointed two managers allowed them to bring in players, the teams are the worst we've had since the Richardson era. Conference is where we are heading who ever is manager.

Elaborate... How is the board responsible?

[Lifelong supporter]

Remind me again...who appointed Fergie?

[PDX_Rover]

The board did of course. And I don't recall anybody really being that upset about it at the time.

It's fairly obvious that it's not working out. I don't know the reason why.

[dickos1]

The problem starts and finishes with the board. Appointed two managers allowed them to bring in players, the teams are the worst we've had since the Richardson era. Conference is where we are heading who ever is manager.

Nonsense to blame the board, we were all happy with the appointment he's proven at this level
He's failing badly, it's not the boards fault

[Lifelong supporter]

The board did of course. And I don't recall anybody really being that upset about it at the time.

It's fairly obvious that it's not working out. I don't know the reason why.

Join the club.
But don't try to exonerate the board.
They have to take their share of the blame.

[bobjimwilly]

The board did of course. And I don't recall anybody really being that upset about it at the time.

It's fairly obvious that it's not working out. I don't know the reason why.

Join the club.
But don't try to exonerate the board.
They have to take their share of the blame.

Lifelong - You backed the decision to sign DF! http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=254583.msg580068#msg580068

[West Stand Willy]

We were happy to let the board decide who our next manager was going to be, after all they were the ones doing the interviews, but hey have to admit that they made a mistake. DF isn't up to the job. He hasn't signed the right players, he doesn't know how to get the best from them, he doesn't know how to motivate them, I sometimes wonder if they train on a football pitch because they don't appear to know what goal posts look like.

[drfc1951]

When we appointed Fergie, what were the other options, Lee Clarke or Shaun Derry. I know who i would have chosen out of those 3

[Yorkiered]

The problem starts and finishes with the board. Appointed two managers allowed them to bring in players, the teams are the worst we've had since the Richardson era. Conference is where we are heading who ever is manager.

Nonsense to blame the board, we were all happy with the appointment he's proven at this level
He's failing badly, it's not the boards fault

If I recall, there was quite a few people who were UNHAPPY with DFs appointment.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

The problem starts and finishes with the board. Appointed two managers allowed them to bring in players, the teams are the worst we've had since the Richardson era. Conference is where we are heading who ever is manager.

Nonsense to blame the board, we were all happy with the appointment he's proven at this level
He's failing badly, it's not the boards fault

If I recall, there was quite a few people who were UNHAPPY with DFs appointment.

But they weren't in January. I want to know what's caused two months of terrible performances.

[BobG]

Hear hear BFYP! That's about the most constructive and sensible comment I've read so far. I have absolutely no knowledge or even rumour, but I do wonder if something somehow went off inside the club when one or more of the Corporal, Harry Forrester and/or Richie Wellens moved on?

It does look like something changed, noticeably, about that time doesn't it?

BobG

[bally1950]

Ferguson DID SAY that there was something rotten in the club and he would sort it out, well he hasn't and personally he will not because I believe that the feathers were ruffled of some and it has been payback...OOOOOOHHHHHH how we worship our heroes.  NOT, but many will have a go at me for this post

[rtid88]

The problem starts and finishes with the board. Appointed two managers allowed them to bring in players, the teams are the worst we've had since the Richardson era. Conference is where we are heading who ever is manager.

Nonsense to blame the board, we were all happy with the appointment he's proven at this level
He's failing badly, it's not the boards fault

I thought he was a terrible appointment at the time and didn't think he would fit into our club at all but I really hate to have been proven right!

[hoolahoop]

Ferguson DID SAY that there was something rotten in the club and he would sort it out, well he hasn't and personally he will not because I believe that the feathers were ruffled of some and it has been payback...OOOOOOHHHHHH how we worship our heroes.  NOT, but many will have a go at me for this post

You may have a point there but where does the problem lie  ? Does it lie with the shite or the person trying to clean up the shite ?

[les@donr]

I've said for a while that the club has been in a downward spiral since the appointment of Dickov, and it has continued, Fergie hasn't been unable to arrest the decline, Lg 2 becons.

[Lifelong supporter]

The board did of course. And I don't recall anybody really being that upset about it at the time.

It's fairly obvious that it's not working out. I don't know the reason why.

Join the club.
But don't try to exonerate the board.
They have to take their share of the blame.

Lifelong - You backed the decision to sign DF! http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=254583.msg580068#msg580068

I didn't actually.
In the post I said I'd be happy if it was him after seeing some of the other names put forward.
But I'll admit I wasn't dismayed when he got it and I don't think it would be right to sack him now.
What I don't understand is why the board can do no wrong in some people's eyes.
Even SM has criticised the chairman and I don't think the directors should be absolved for taking a share of the blame if it turns out he's the wrong man for the job.
They appointed him after going through a rigorous process and seeing all the applications.
If I had seen them all maybe I would have picked someone different.
I have to admit I'm having doubts about Fergie now though and have been for some time.
Would we be in the same position we are now if we had not let Wellens, Forrester and Jones go...as well as the strange deal to let the McKay twins leave?
He's chopped and changed, dropped players the first time they've made a mistake, brought in youngsters and now decided we need more experience.
For me he seems to be stumbling about a bit in the dark.
But the fact remains that he was the manager who lifted us from 23rd to 11th after taking over with virtually the same bunch of players.
What's gone wrong since then I haven't a clue.
And, it seems, neither does he.

[Bentley Bullet]

I've said for a while that the club has been in a downward spiral since the appointment of Dickov, and it has continued, Fergie hasn't been unable to arrest the decline, Lg 2 becons.

Can the reason for the decline be down to less team funding made available post Saunders?

[les@donr]

I too wasn't a Fergie supporter to get our manager's job, but once appointed I supported him, until it became very apparent that he had clearly lost the plot, and probably the Dressing Room too!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bentley

If it turns out that we've had the 22nd highest wage bill in the division this year then I'll accept your point.

[Bentley Bullet]

Billy

I wonder if our wage bill is one of the most competitive since Wellens, Forrester and Jones have been off the pay-roll?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bentley.

Yes mate. I'm sure you're right.

Goodnight.