Think I’m “time to go”

[pib]

Wouldn't be as bad if it didn't seem to happen time and time again.

That's the nail on the head really.

Ferguson has a lot of qualities as a manager. He's certainly got more of an idea than his predecessor by a long way. The massive frustration is less so with results, and more to do with a failure to acknowledge and address the same weaknesses that appear over and over again.

- late goals conceded owing to lack of mental strength and/or poor tactical decisions and substitutions
- susceptibility from set plays and aerial balls into the box
- dramatic collapses in form
- (to a lesser extent) lack of a "Plan C" when 442 diamond/352 and associated tactics don't work.

I don't think most people expect Championship football, at least not for the foreseeable, but what's management about if not continuous improvement and squeezing more and more out of your team?

I'm by no means part of the Ferguson out brigade, but the guy needs to wake up to the same problems that keep costing us.

[mushRTID]

Wouldn't be as bad if it didn't seem to happen time and time again.

That's the nail on the head really.

Ferguson has a lot of qualities as a manager. He's certainly got more of an idea than his predecessor by a long way. The massive frustration is less so with results, and more to do with a failure to acknowledge and address the same weaknesses that appear over and over again.

- late goals conceded owing to lack of mental strength and/or poor tactical decisions and substitutions
- susceptibility from set plays and aerial balls into the box
- dramatic collapses in form
- (to a lesser extent) lack of a "Plan C" when 442 diamond/352 and associated tactics don't work.

I don't think most people expect Championship football, at least not for the foreseeable, but what's management about if not continuous improvement and squeezing more and more out of your team?

I'm by no means part of the Ferguson out brigade, but the guy needs to wake up to the same problems that keep costing us.

On reflection I do accept this thread may have been a little OTT. I can’t remember been as angry as I was after Saturdays game, so it was a poor time to come on here and post.

Your comments describe by feelings perfectly pib.

We’re just not learning and as frustrating as the end of the game was, nobody I spoke to was surprised about it.

[Donnywolf]

It would have been no good asking me owt after the Game. A few tried and apologies if you were one of these :

a) Hey mate which way to Station / Me "F*****g hell"

b) Where did we park the Car / Me "F*****g hell"

c) Would you like Chocolate sprinkles on your Coffee / Me "F*****g hell"

As I type this I believe I have improved a bit - as I have stopped using the 2 words above BUT still randomly beat my Steering Wheel or Worktop with a fist and a utter a simulataneous "b*****d (Things are looking up)

I know people say of games that was the best we Played / that was the worst we Played / thats the worst Ref we have ever had but in truth there were probably examples in the past that eclipsed each one BUT I think in truth I can believe I have ever been so utterly devastated after a Final whistle - including when we went out of the League

Someone may hep me with that of course !

[Campsall rover]

Against a team that has won 7 on the trot and not lost in around 12 league games it was going to take quite an effort to break their confidence and beat them but for those that can't accept that I'm not sure you are ever going to be happy with the results whatever league we're in and whomever we play. Sometimes reality is what it is, we come up against a better team that is in form. When you look at the scores from Rotherham's games and the teams they played we did no better or worse, give our players and manager a break ffs.

I can always accept losing. It’s going to happen. The problem is WE have lost that match on Saturday Rotherham DID NOT win it. We gave them 2 goals that were both preventable. We DO keep making the same mistakes time after time after time. This to me is what is so frustrating.
Basic dreading ie PUT IT INTO ROW Z and set pieces. How many is that it’s getting ridiculous.
In the first half at corners BEESTIN WAS MARKING SMITH. Can someone tell me what that was all about please?

[Campsall rover]

That’s defending not dreading. I need to proof read before posting

[Donnywolf]

It doesnt matter it made sense anyway - but you could edit it - and then remove the apology Post.

Its easy I have done it hundreds of times !

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I think we have a right to be livid after the game. Given our recent history of collapsing right at the death, it's inconceivable to me that Joe Wright didn't know what to do in that situation. It's inconceivable that DF hasn't talked through these scenarios in training and in the meetings/briefings. Given the tenacity Wright showed in normal time, how can he not know what to do???? 11, 500 people in the stadium knew what he should have done!!!

That's the frustrating thing, taking injuries aside, we have players who are capable of better standards. Given the right mental toughness, we could be right up there amongst it. I accept some of the young players are experiencing this sort of thing for the first time but we should have enough knowhow from the players and management to be able to see games out.

Get it sorted Darren.

[Dr Fundlekrotch]

That’s defending not dreading. I need to proof read before posting

I think that there is a lot of basic dreading on set-pieces, though

[Bristol Red Rover]

That’s defending not dreading. I need to proof read before posting

I think that there is a lot of basic dreading on set-pieces, though

We should hire Dr Dread, his meds would help.

[Donnywolf]

I have already advocated elsewhere that Row Z would be a good uption but perhaps he probably thought - instead of Row Z - if I tap it back to Marco he can launch it long and they will have a throw in (most likely) 30 yards from their goal instead of close to ours

Who knows - but the execution let him down as we know to our eternal cost !

This games outcome will be permanently lodged in my "crust" along with the likes of Stoke Wembley and Anfield (twice) unfortunately !

[drfchound]

Bury, Bradford, mk dons, Oldham, oxford, Wimbledon, Blackpool,
We need to be getting at least ten points from these

With the exception of Blackburn, Wigan & probably Gillingham none of those fixtures should overly worry us.
We’ll get at least 12, maybe 16 from those games.

I wonder what the thoughts will be if we fail to get say, 10 or 12 points from those seven games.

 8 games.
We need 8 points from 12 games so if we manage to get 10 from 8 games I would think everyone would be happy. As we'd be safe with another 4 games to go

I could have sworn I saw someone list seven games earlier and suggest we needed ten points from them.

Maybe not.

You replied to andysly, even quoted what he said in your post. So what does that have to do with what I said?

Clearly, andyslys post was a follow on to yours that suggested we need ten points from the seven games you listed.
He never mentioned eight games, you did.

[Filo]

Bury, Bradford, mk dons, Oldham, oxford, Wimbledon, Blackpool,
We need to be getting at least ten points from these

With the exception of Blackburn, Wigan & probably Gillingham none of those fixtures should overly worry us.
We’ll get at least 12, maybe 16 from those games.

I wonder what the thoughts will be if we fail to get say, 10 or 12 points from those seven games.

 8 games.
We need 8 points from 12 games so if we manage to get 10 from 8 games I would think everyone would be happy. As we'd be safe with another 4 games to go

I could have sworn I saw someone list seven games earlier and suggest we needed ten points from them.

Maybe not.

You replied to andysly, even quoted what he said in your post. So what does that have to do with what I said?

Clearly, andyslys post was a follow on to yours that suggested we need ten points from the seven games you listed.
He never mentioned eight games, you did.

Can't you two just give it a rest?

[drfchound]

i was simply pointing out that andysly had replied to a post and my response had been linking the two together.
What is wrong with that?