Jeff just said we're not safe..

[drfchound]

Bury, MK and Wimbledon are the ones I'm looking at. Win those and we should be OK.

Pib, I agree, win those three and we should, nay, will, be safe.
I hope we can win them.

[phil old leake]

With regard to the first post if we went down who would want DF to stay. 

[Donnyjim]

I think we'll just stay up this season and get relegated next. Unless there is some investment in the club which I think is unlikely. It reminds me a bit of where we were in the early and mid 80's - a third and fourth tier yo yo club. I think is fair to say that is probably where we are at the moment. It could be worse and should be better.

[dickos1]

How can we be classed as a yo yo club into a league we've been in a grand total of 1 season in the last 15 years??

[drfchound]

I think we'll just stay up this season and get relegated next. Unless there is some investment in the club which I think is unlikely. It reminds me a bit of where we were in the early and mid 80's - a third and fourth tier yo yo club. I think is fair to say that is probably where we are at the moment. It could be worse and should be better.

Hi Jim, you are obviously talking about where we are now, with an eye of a potential for what might happen in the future, irrespective of years gone by?

[dickos1]

😂😂
Why are you telling him what he is talking about?

[Donnyjim]

I think we'll just stay up this season and get relegated next. Unless there is some investment in the club which I think is unlikely. It reminds me a bit of where we were in the early and mid 80's - a third and fourth tier yo yo club. I think is fair to say that is probably where we are at the moment. It could be worse and should be better.

Hi Jim, you are obviously talking about where we are now, with an eye of a potential for what might happen in the future, irrespective of years gone by.

Indeed my friend. You are spot on. As per usual Dickos has gone all lesbionic on us, again.

[ravenrover]

It is now March and we have won one game in 2018. Draws not really good enough.

On the othrr hand we are undefeated in March

[Filo]

And a point a game will see us over the line

[Bristol Red Rover]

How can we be classed as a yo yo club into a league we've been in a grand total of 1 season in the last 15 years??

Twice in 16 years, ya stats mugger 

If you take our average league position from 1923-24 to last season (incl. Conf, and taking eg finishing 5th in 3N as effectively 9th in tier 3 overall), we're 65th overall, which is 21st in League 1 now.

Do the same post war and we're 23rd in League 1
Since 70-71 we're 4th in League 2
Since 90-91 we're 1st in League 2
Since 2000-01 we're 14th in League 1

I'd say our average current place taking all into acount is midtable League 1 give or take 5 places, and that's where we are right now. A bit of yo to the Championship, a bit of yo to League 2.

[Jimmydee]

I haven’t binned my pre-season bet yet, any takers for a fiver?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Somewhere at the bottom of a drawer I’ve got my £10e/w @ 50/1 bet slip on us to win Div 4 in 1990/91.

The way Jones and Muir terrorised defences in the first 5 games that season, I thought I was going to be quids in.

[Muttley]

Do any of you stattos know if there's any correlation between the "competitiveness" of the league and the points needed to be safe?

I'm thinking of maybe the spread between top and bottom, or the total numbers of points earned by all teams - if the league is "competitive" ie narrow spread then you would imagine that more points would be needed to avoid relegation than if there was a wide spread between top and bottom.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Muttley

I’ve never looked at the figures but I’d guess it’s almost a given. If a high number of points is needed to stay up, it’s very likely that would equate to a low number of points being needed to go up or make the play-offs.
The only way it wouldn’t correlate is if there were many more wins in a season (so more points on average for all teams) or if say the top 6 were way ahead of the rest of the division (so a high number of points was required to go up but not a particularly high number needed to make, say the top half.

If anyone has a spare half hour, I guess the thing to do would be to rank each season based on how many points the 21st team got, then for each of those seasons look at the ratio of the 21st team’s points compared to the 2nd, 6th and 12th placed sides. You’d think there’d be a pattern there. High points = high ratios and vice versa.