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Author Topic: fb bans UK far right groups and leaders, but what about the far left?  (Read 1532 times)

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SydneyRover

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Facebook has imposed a ban on a dozen far-right individuals and organisations that it says "spread hate"

How many far-left groups are banned?

Looking at the political spectrum from the far left to the far right which political parties are closest to this lot, where does the party that you vote for if you vote or support sit in relation to these people, are there any parties in between the party you vote for and this lot or does it go from right to far right of your party and straight to them? does your party act as a nursery ground for these people, do you know or care.

Have a think about the demos recently, this week on climate change or the remain 1 million march and others, how do they do it do they use violence, are they doing it for themselves or for a greater good. What about the f-right how do they conduct themselves are they a group you would want to join, what about your kids would you be happy for them to protest about climate change or join this mob.

The ban includes:

    The British National Party and its ex-leader Nick Griffin

    Britain First, its leader Paul Golding and former deputy leader Jayda Fransen

    English Defence League and its founding member Paul Ray

    Knights Templar International and its promoter Jim Dowson

    National Front and its leader Tony Martin

    Jack Renshaw, a neo-Nazi who plotted to murder a Labour MP


https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47974579



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Axholme Lion

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Facebook has imposed a ban on a dozen far-right individuals and organisations that it says "spread hate"

How many far-left groups are banned?

Looking at the political spectrum from the far left to the far right which political parties are closest to this lot, where does the party that you vote for if you vote or support sit in relation to these people, are there any parties in between the party you vote for and this lot or does it go from right to far right of your party and straight to them? does your party act as a nursery ground for these people, do you know or care.

Have a think about the demos recently, this week on climate change or the remain 1 million march and others, how do they do it do they use violence, are they doing it for themselves or for a greater good. What about the f-right how do they conduct themselves are they a group you would want to join, what about your kids would you be happy for them to protest about climate change or join this mob.

The ban includes:

    The British National Party and its ex-leader Nick Griffin

    Britain First, its leader Paul Golding and former deputy leader Jayda Fransen

    English Defence League and its founding member Paul Ray

    Knights Templar International and its promoter Jim Dowson

    National Front and its leader Tony Martin

    Jack Renshaw, a neo-Nazi who plotted to murder a Labour MP


https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47974579

No, I wouldn't want any kids of mine going to London, smashing office windows, spray painting walls, blocking the traffic, inconveniencing thousands of Londoners going about their daily business, causing businesses to lose a fortune and leaving rubbish and litter everywhere. At least the boys in blue have done themselves proud with a bit of dancing and skateboarding. It was a different kettle of fish when the Countryside Alliance came down to protest and got the crap kicked out of themselves by the OB.

Geoff Blakesley

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About time Facebook - but better late than never.

SydneyRover

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About time Facebook - but better late than never.
Yep, cut off their oxygen.

The Red Baron

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Facebook has imposed a ban on a dozen far-right individuals and organisations that it says "spread hate"

How many far-left groups are banned?

Looking at the political spectrum from the far left to the far right which political parties are closest to this lot, where does the party that you vote for if you vote or support sit in relation to these people, are there any parties in between the party you vote for and this lot or does it go from right to far right of your party and straight to them? does your party act as a nursery ground for these people, do you know or care.

Have a think about the demos recently, this week on climate change or the remain 1 million march and others, how do they do it do they use violence, are they doing it for themselves or for a greater good. What about the f-right how do they conduct themselves are they a group you would want to join, what about your kids would you be happy for them to protest about climate change or join this mob.

The ban includes:

    The British National Party and its ex-leader Nick Griffin

    Britain First, its leader Paul Golding and former deputy leader Jayda Fransen

    English Defence League and its founding member Paul Ray

    Knights Templar International and its promoter Jim Dowson

    National Front and its leader Tony Martin

    Jack Renshaw, a neo-Nazi who plotted to murder a Labour MP


https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47974579

Communism is as bad as Fascism. I don't understand your point but if it is that no Marxists are banned ergo they are decent people I suspect you are a Marxist.

I don't expect anything else from Facebook. It is a total waste of time and I won't go near it. Although I expect the Left will eventually f**k up Twitter for me.

SydneyRover

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Facebook has imposed a ban on a dozen far-right individuals and organisations that it says "spread hate"

How many far-left groups are banned?

Looking at the political spectrum from the far left to the far right which political parties are closest to this lot, where does the party that you vote for if you vote or support sit in relation to these people, are there any parties in between the party you vote for and this lot or does it go from right to far right of your party and straight to them? does your party act as a nursery ground for these people, do you know or care.

Have a think about the demos recently, this week on climate change or the remain 1 million march and others, how do they do it do they use violence, are they doing it for themselves or for a greater good. What about the f-right how do they conduct themselves are they a group you would want to join, what about your kids would you be happy for them to protest about climate change or join this mob.

The ban includes:

    The British National Party and its ex-leader Nick Griffin

    Britain First, its leader Paul Golding and former deputy leader Jayda Fransen

    English Defence League and its founding member Paul Ray

    Knights Templar International and its promoter Jim Dowson

    National Front and its leader Tony Martin

    Jack Renshaw, a neo-Nazi who plotted to murder a Labour MP


https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47974579

Communism is as bad as Fascism. I don't understand your point but if it is that no Marxists are banned ergo they are decent people I suspect you are a Marxist.

I don't expect anything else from Facebook. It is a total waste of time and I won't go near it. Although I expect the Left will eventually f**k up Twitter for me.
I'm neither a member of fb nor a marxist and my comment asking if any from the far left have been banned was just that TRB a comment, a comment to get people to think further than just their tribal allegiances. I read the comments on the climate change thread around the recent demo's and wanted to add mine but not get entangled with the wums. It's a much shorter political hop from the erg to those far right groups than it is from any party on the left and I'd rather see a hundred glass doors smashed than a single person hurt.

"Welcome to the fifth day of the Extinction Rebellion, the escalating but still methodically polite campaign of disruption that has turned several of central London’s best-known locations into a giant game of territorial to-and-fro"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/19/extinction-rebellion-reports-hundreds-of-people-signing-up
« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 02:15:23 am by SydneyRover »

BillyStubbsTears

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The band haven't been imposed because the people involved have right wing views.

They've been imposed because the people and organisations involved are hate-mongers encouraging violence.

If people and organisations with left wing views are similarly encouraging violence and spreading hate, they too should be banned. But for that, not for being left or right wing.

SydneyRover

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The band haven't been imposed because the people involved have right wing views.

They've been imposed because the people and organisations involved are hate-mongers encouraging violence.

If people and organisations with left wing views are similarly encouraging violence and spreading hate, they too should be banned. But for that, not for being left or right wing.
correct BST, why is it that the far right think they need to use hate and violence?

BillyStubbsTears

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It's a feature of their approach, not a bug.

Minor example. 5-6 years ago, one Friday evening, every single car on our road had "EDL" scraped into the bonnet.

That's indicative of the person they attract. Bellends who just want to be let off the leash to be antisocial, and dress it up as some sort of political statement.

It's the way the Far Right has always operated. A few very intelligent manipulators, encouraging anti-social types who just want a ruck.

Sprotyrover

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It's a feature of their approach, not a bug.

Minor example. 5-6 years ago, one Friday evening, every single car on our road had "EDL" scraped into the bonnet.

That's indicative of the person they attract. Bellends who just want to be let off the leash to be antisocial, and dress it up as some sort of political statement.

It's the way the Far Right has always operated. A few very intelligent manipulators, encouraging anti-social types who just want a ruck.

From what I saw this week there are plenty of bellends at either end of the Political spectrum.

SydneyRover

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It's a feature of their approach, not a bug.

Minor example. 5-6 years ago, one Friday evening, every single car on our road had "EDL" scraped into the bonnet.

That's indicative of the person they attract. Bellends who just want to be let off the leash to be antisocial, and dress it up as some sort of political statement.

It's the way the Far Right has always operated. A few very intelligent manipulators, encouraging anti-social types who just want a ruck.

From what I saw this week there are plenty of bellends at either end of the Political spectrum.
“It’s been a resounding success,” said one of the group’s organisers, Howard Rees, surveying the scene on Waterloo Bridge on Thursday afternoon. “What are we on? Day four? We are holding all the sites, we are attracting loads of new members, everybody’s having a great time, there’s a party atmosphere everywhere … the police are generally positive and friendly towards us and agree with what we’re doing. And we are getting our message out there. It couldn’t be going better, really.”

On topic Sproty did you see any hate speech or violence against police?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/20/battle-of-waterloo-bridge-a-week-of-extinction-rebellion-protests

 

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