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bpoolrover

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Re: Here's a thought
« Reply #30 on June 10, 2019, 05:15:23 pm by bpoolrover »
The last estimate on people that had used drugs in the last year was around 3 million, in sure it will be way higher than that so should all them people
Be punished?



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Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Here's a thought
« Reply #31 on June 10, 2019, 08:07:12 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
The last estimate on people that had used drugs in the last year was around 3 million, in sure it will be way higher than that so should all them people
Be punished?

Should all the other people who've broken the law be let off too?

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Here's a thought
« Reply #32 on June 10, 2019, 08:08:14 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Yes not saying they would be my choice but because they did drugs up to 30 years ago should not be a issue, let’s be honest if alcohol had not been invented till now that would be illegal 2, where do you draw the line someone speeding could potentially kill someone so any mp with a speeding fine should not be able to be pm

It shows a shocking lack of judgement that we as a country can't afford our Prime Minister to have.


BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Here's a thought
« Reply #33 on June 10, 2019, 08:33:27 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Bpool.

It's the hypocrisy that's the problem.

It's Govt ministers presiding over laws that can send people down, and then effectively saying that doesn't apply to them.

Amber Rudd presides over a Department that is deporting a man who has lived here since he was 4 because he was found with a bag of weed on him. But she's supporting for PM a man who has admitted taking dope.

Mind, there's another theme here isn't there? The right wing press wants Johnson as PM. They are working themselves up into a larger about his opponents taking drugs, while he (serial adulterer, liar, abuser of minorities, accomplice in a conspiracy to have a journalist assaulted https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/darius-boris-and-a-blast-from-the-past-1658043.html?amp and as sure as the sun rises in the east, taker of drugs) sits at home and refuses  to be quizzed on anything. Because he doesn't want anything to f**k up his coronation.

wilts rover

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Re: Here's a thought
« Reply #34 on June 10, 2019, 08:49:24 pm by wilts rover »
In response to all the drug claims and disclosures Jeremy Hunt declared at the launch of his campaign today that he had never broken the law.

Before later clarifying that he had breached his own government's anti-money laundering laws several times
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1138119290178232321
https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/jeremy-hunt-broke-anti-money-laundering-laws

A leading contender for Prime Minister: doesn't know what the law is, doesn't see why he should follow it when the rest of us have too, can't remember what he did last year. What could possibly go wrong with him as PM...

Campsall rover

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Re: Here's a thought
« Reply #35 on June 12, 2019, 11:12:18 am by Campsall rover »
Well my choice some years ago would have been Kenneth Clark.
Voice of sense and reason compared to the present bunch we have.

My choice now would be Hammond ( voice of SOME reason ) who is not even standing for PM.
I think he realises he has a bunch of no hopers in his party, a totally divided party on Brexit and he would be banging his head on a brick door in trying to sort out the mess.

As for a Labour government led by Corbyn well no thanks is as polite as i can be.
We would be going down a slippery slope of economic disaster imo.

Don’t usually talk politics on here but that’s my two penneth worth for what it’s worth & it’s probably only worth one pence.  :facepalm:

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #36 on June 12, 2019, 01:29:10 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Kenneth Clarke was always the voice of reason in the Tory party. He's from the One Nation mould that used to dominate the party before Thatcher's revolution prioritised us all being grabbing individuals. He also did a decent job as Chancellor in the early 90s, when the Thatcher/Howe/Lawson economic experiment imploded and he took us back to relatively sensible neo-Keynesian economics that enabled us the economy to grow steadily out of the disaster of the Lawson boom and bust and Black Wednesday.

Hammond is a Poundland version of Clarke. I do think he understands the economic disaster that Brexit (especially No Deal Brexit) would unleash . And I do think he understands that Austerity is economic mumbo-jumbo too. But he's in a party where it is very difficult to say those things publicly and stay in high office.

bobjimwilly

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« Reply #37 on June 12, 2019, 04:17:03 pm by bobjimwilly »
Yes not saying they would be my choice but because they did drugs up to 30 years ago should not be a issue, let’s be honest if alcohol had not been invented till now that would be illegal 2, where do you draw the line someone speeding could potentially kill someone so any mp with a speeding fine should not be able to be pm

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you're not changing the topic and talking shite as a distraction.
AS BST has said; the issue isn't whether taking drugs is bad or not, or even if Gove has a history of coke abuse; the issue is the hypocrosy. And if the majority think like you that nothing can be done and we should just let MP's say what they want, do what they want and think they are above everyone else, then we truly are rogered.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #38 on June 12, 2019, 10:11:23 pm by Campsall rover »
Kenneth Clarke was always the voice of reason in the Tory party. He's from the One Nation mould that used to dominate the party before Thatcher's revolution prioritised us all being grabbing individuals. He also did a decent job as Chancellor in the early 90s, when the Thatcher/Howe/Lawson economic experiment imploded and he took us back to relatively sensible neo-Keynesian economics that enabled us the economy to grow steadily out of the disaster of the Lawson boom and bust and Black Wednesday.

Hammond is a Poundland version of Clarke. I do think he understands the economic disaster that Brexit (especially No Deal Brexit) would unleash . And I do think he understands that Austerity is economic mumbo-jumbo too. But he's in a party where it is very difficult to say those things publicly and stay in high office.
We are in agreement on most posts BST, football and politics.

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #39 on June 12, 2019, 10:41:22 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Kenneth Clarke was always the voice of reason in the Tory party. He's from the One Nation mould that used to dominate the party before Thatcher's revolution prioritised us all being grabbing individuals. He also did a decent job as Chancellor in the early 90s, when the Thatcher/Howe/Lawson economic experiment imploded and he took us back to relatively sensible neo-Keynesian economics that enabled us the economy to grow steadily out of the disaster of the Lawson boom and bust and Black Wednesday.

Hammond is a Poundland version of Clarke. I do think he understands the economic disaster that Brexit (especially No Deal Brexit) would unleash . And I do think he understands that Austerity is economic mumbo-jumbo too. But he's in a party where it is very difficult to say those things publicly and stay in high office.

You're forgetting that he also had to follow the disastrous Lamont. Even taking that into consideration, he was still the Chancellor that threw away Britain's domestic fuel VAT zero-rating, and that if the 1997 election hadn't have happened when it did we'd all now be paying full rate 20% VAT on domestic fuel instead of 5%.

bpoolrover

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Re: Here's a thought
« Reply #40 on June 14, 2019, 03:06:09 am by bpoolrover »
Bpool.

It's the hypocrisy that's the problem.

It's Govt ministers presiding over laws that can send people down, and then effectively saying that doesn't apply to them.

Amber Rudd presides over a Department that is deporting a man who has lived here since he was 4 because he was found with a bag of weed on him. But she's supporting for PM a man who has admitted taking dope.

Mind, there's another theme here isn't there? The right wing press wants Johnson as PM. They are working themselves up into a larger about his opponents taking drugs, while he (serial adulterer, liar, abuser of minorities, accomplice in a conspiracy to have a journalist assaulted https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/darius-boris-and-a-blast-from-the-past-1658043.html?amp and as sure as the sun rises in the east, taker of drugs) sits at home and refuses  to be quizzed on anything. Because he doesn't want anything to f**k up his coronation.
your right it should not Happen mate but in reality it happens all the time,should we just put up with it no but when all is said and done it was how many years ago? How many players for rovers have played with criminal records have played for us, how many police have been caught speeding yet uphold the law? How many do drugs yet uphold the law? Is it right no is it life and reality yes

bpoolrover

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« Reply #41 on June 14, 2019, 03:14:54 am by bpoolrover »
Corbyn has voted against labour polices numerous times yet has sacked mps for doing the same thing is that hypocrisy? Would you still vote labour is that hypocrisy? Yes but it’s life and you can’t judge when it suits you

 

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