Calling no confidence in the government

[Glyn_Wigley]

Not while Boris lives and breathes they ain't.

What? If he offers them jobs they'll get into bed with him.

It's not as if they haven't got form for this kind of thing.

Not unless he does a backflip and cancels Brexit they won't.

[idler]

Huge tactical mistake by Swinton here that I am sure wont be forgotten in any election campaign (as I mentioned on another thread). SNP, Plaid and Dominic Grieve have all said they want to talk to Labour about the plan - but Swinton wont.

Have a guess which far-left, marxist supporter did say this about Corbyn's offer tho (not much of a challenge as it tells you in the link)

“I certainly take the view that a short-term Jeremy Corbyn government is less damaging than the generational damage that would be caused by a no-deal Brexit.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/guto-bebb-corbyn-pm-government-block-no-deal-brexit-boris-a9061261.html

When did Swinson say she won't talk to Labour? Today she said she'd talk to anyone about stopping No Deal but won't countenance Corbyn as PM.

The Lib Dems are the most opportunistic, untrustworthy, undemocratic party in politics. You Remainers should be worried, because if any party's going to f*ck it up for you it's them.

Surely Boris has raised the bar for all challengers.
Anybody that can't see Boris for what he is, whether remainer or Brexiter is thick.
 

[scawsby steve]

Huge tactical mistake by Swinton here that I am sure wont be forgotten in any election campaign (as I mentioned on another thread). SNP, Plaid and Dominic Grieve have all said they want to talk to Labour about the plan - but Swinton wont.

Have a guess which far-left, marxist supporter did say this about Corbyn's offer tho (not much of a challenge as it tells you in the link)

“I certainly take the view that a short-term Jeremy Corbyn government is less damaging than the generational damage that would be caused by a no-deal Brexit.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/guto-bebb-corbyn-pm-government-block-no-deal-brexit-boris-a9061261.html

When did Swinson say she won't talk to Labour? Today she said she'd talk to anyone about stopping No Deal but won't countenance Corbyn as PM.

The Lib Dems are the most opportunistic, untrustworthy, undemocratic party in politics. You Remainers should be worried, because if any party's going to f*ck it up for you it's them.

Surely Boris has raised the bar for all challengers.
Anybody that can't see Boris for what he is, whether remainer or Brexiter is thick.

Can you see Chuka Umunna for what he is? If you can, then please tell us all, seeing as he's been in 3 different political parties in less than 12 months.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Seriously, who gives feck about Chukka Umunna? Does he have any importance regarding anything to anyone but his constituents?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Last time I checked, Chukka Umunna wasn't Prime Minister. He was a preening nobody.

Whereas the Prime Minister was a venal, egotistical compulsive liar who couldn't keep his cock in his trousers and who would wear lederhosen, smoke Gauloise, eat paella and change his name to Sven Garibaldi if he thought it would advance his career.

You see the difference?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Last time I checked, Chukka Umunna wasn't Prime Minister. He was a preening nobody.

Whereas the Prime Minister was a venal, egotistical compulsive liar who couldn't keep his cock in his trousers and who would wear lederhosen, smoke Gauloise, eat paella and change his name to Sven Garibaldi if he thought it would advance his career.

You see the difference?

I wouldn't have used the past tense when talking about Boris like you did.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Last time I checked Glyn.

[SydneyRover]

would you trust boris in the same trench Steve?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Boris would be back at home shagging the wives and writing victory and defeat speeches to cover every eventuality.

[albie]

Swinson has shot herself in the foot with her first move as LD leader.

Senior LD's are in a rage about her stance without consultation, and she is looking very isolated as a result.
Not got 2 brain cells to rub together, I'm afraid.

It will be interesting to see the result in her constituency come the new GE!

[BillyStubbsTears]

She knows exactly what she's doing in her constituency.

Have a look at the historical record of voting there.

Used to be a Lab/Con contest. Two big changes.

The Tories became toxic in the 90s and the LDs picked up a lot of their vote.

Labour became toxic in the 2010s and the SNP picked up their vote.

It's now a LD/SNP marginal. Swindon's problem is that she relies on right of centre votes. So she can't support Corbyn.

Labour can play on this, sure, but it's a risky strategy. She might we'll stick to the line of not accepting Corbyn as caretaker PM, even if it f**ks up the anti- No Deal approach and hammers the LDs as a result.

What would be the point of Labour destroying the LDs over that, if we have a No Deal Brexit as part of the collateral damage?

[Axholme Lion]

Perhaps you could follow Glynn the country would be a far happier place without people like you
             

What, people who know how democracy works in this country? I happen to like how democracy works in this country, thank you, so I don't need to move. I've never even been abroad for a holiday.

Judging by your offensive comments aimed directly at me I would suggest that you have no interest at all in democracy.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Perhaps you could follow Glynn the country would be a far happier place without people like you
             

What, people who know how democracy works in this country? I happen to like how democracy works in this country, thank you, so I don't need to move. I've never even been abroad for a holiday.

Judging by your offensive comments aimed directly at me I would suggest that you have no interest at all in democracy.

Democracy inherently includes freedom of speech, so exercising that freedom cannot be anything but democratic itself.

Besides, which comments directed at you have you taken offense to? I'd love to compare them to comments that you've come out with.

[Donnywolf]

Perhaps you could follow Glynn the country would be a far happier place without people like you
             

What, people who know how democracy works in this country? I happen to like how democracy works in this country, thank you, so I don't need to move. I've never even been abroad for a holiday.

Judging by your offensive comments aimed directly at me I would suggest that you have no interest at all in democracy.

Just wondering if you have ever seen Prime Ministers Questions (held in the supposed Mother of all Parliaments)

There Corbyn fires insults as May and she reciprocates - then with her gone Johnson is in the firing line

The SNP / PC and DUP queue up none moreso than the SNP leader

Does that mean they too have no interest in Democracy

[Axholme Lion]

Perhaps you could follow Glynn the country would be a far happier place without people like you
             

What, people who know how democracy works in this country? I happen to like how democracy works in this country, thank you, so I don't need to move. I've never even been abroad for a holiday.

Judging by your offensive comments aimed directly at me I would suggest that you have no interest at all in democracy.

Democracy inherently includes freedom of speech, so exercising that freedom cannot be anything but democratic itself.

Besides, which comments directed at you have you taken offense to? I'd love to compare them to comments that you've come out with.

If you want to make something out of it i'll come down the Keepmoat for a meetup for some freedom of speech.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Perhaps you could follow Glynn the country would be a far happier place without people like you
             

What, people who know how democracy works in this country? I happen to like how democracy works in this country, thank you, so I don't need to move. I've never even been abroad for a holiday.

Judging by your offensive comments aimed directly at me I would suggest that you have no interest at all in democracy.

Democracy inherently includes freedom of speech, so exercising that freedom cannot be anything but democratic itself.

Besides, which comments directed at you have you taken offense to? I'd love to compare them to comments that you've come out with.

If you want to make something out of it i'll come down the Keepmoat for a meetup for some freedom of speech.

Why do we need to meet to utilise our freedom of speech? Unless you're implying that you don't want to talk, of course.

Any news of those 'offensive' comments of mine yet?

[Axholme Lion]

So it's ok for them to go against the majority view to suit their own ends?

 If you don't like it how things are done in Britain perhaps you'd like to follow the advice of the EDL and move to a country whose system you do like?

[Glyn_Wigley]

So it's ok for them to go against the majority view to suit their own ends?

 If you don't like it how things are done in Britain perhaps you'd like to follow the advice of the EDL and move to a country whose system you do like?

What about that do you find offensive? Given that the EDL quite vociferously told people who they thought didn't like how Britain's political system works to leave the country, and that you were complaining about Britain's political system not being what you either imagine or want it to be, it's a perfectly reasonable question.

[Axholme Lion]

What the hell has the EDL got to do with me?

[Glyn_Wigley]

What the hell has the EDL got to do with me?

I never said they had anything to with you. I'm talking about what the EDL said about people who don't like how Britian is run and how it's to do with you similarly not liking how Britain is run. What's offensive about that? Is it as offensive as being told you've no interest in democracy?

[Axholme Lion]

I would have thought anyone with an interest in democracy would be happy for us to leave the EU as per the referendum result.

[Glyn_Wigley]

I would have thought anyone with an interest in democracy would be happy for us to leave the EU as per the referendum result.

If we leave, we leave. I still think it'll be the stupidest thing the country will ever do and the number of people who voted for it isn't going to change my mind. The Norway option is the least harmful, because we'd still be in the Single Market. I could live with that, so how would that be anti-democratic? I believe that No Deal is so harmful tot he country that democracy should reign and the people should vote for it specifically, fully knowing the implications.

Anyway, back to what was it about what I said that think is in the slightest bit offensive..?