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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Tory policies
« Reply #120 on December 05, 2019, 02:23:19 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
The lying from the Tories is just utterly out of control. And no-one seems to give a f**k.

Sajid Javid this time.

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/status/1202565829168128000?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

And before anyone starts, yes, homelessness DID increase under Labour from 1997 to the early 2000s. That was a reflection of the extreme caution of Tony Blair, who insisted that Labour from 97-2001 stick to the Tories' previous spending plans. That was a disaster. After 2001, Gordon Brown insisted that we spend more on public services and social issues. And look what you can do when you do that.

These lying bas**rds have been happy to see homelessness rise for a decade and they've done precisely nothing to combat it. And when they are picked up on it, they just lie. And no-one seems to care anymore.



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BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #121 on December 05, 2019, 02:30:03 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Of course, that's the same Sajid Javid who was working for Deutsche Bank in the decade up to the Great Financial Crash, then left and walked straight into Government. And is now the Chancellor of the f**king Exchequer!

And folk don't trust Labour...

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #122 on December 05, 2019, 02:51:18 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
Of course, that's the same Sajid Javid who was working for Deutsche Bank in the decade up to the Great Financial Crash, then left and walked straight into Government. And is now the Chancellor of the f**king Exchequer!

And folk don't trust Labour...

Even after all these weeks of debate, I still don’t understand how anyone with any ounce of empathy for others could vote Tory?

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #123 on December 05, 2019, 02:52:26 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
Corbyn's just a protester. He'll even protest against what he believes in to get in power.

Aye, protesting against the Bedroom Tax, Closure of Sure Start Children’s Centres, the introduction of Universal Credit...what a shithouse eh?

We can all be brilliant at protesting about that, along with everything that's unpopular, but it doesn't make us worthy Prime Ministers.

It makes you a better PM than one who supports those policies BB!

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« Reply #124 on December 05, 2019, 05:03:19 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Corbyn's just a protester. He'll even protest against what he believes in to get in power.

Aye, protesting against the Bedroom Tax, Closure of Sure Start Children’s Centres, the introduction of Universal Credit...what a shithouse eh?

We can all be brilliant at protesting about that, along with everything that's unpopular, but it doesn't make us worthy Prime Ministers.

It makes you a better PM than one who supports those policies BB!

Not until you turn your promises into actions and see them work correctly it doesn't.

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #125 on December 05, 2019, 05:13:16 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
Corbyn's just a protester. He'll even protest against what he believes in to get in power.

Aye, protesting against the Bedroom Tax, Closure of Sure Start Children’s Centres, the introduction of Universal Credit...what a shithouse eh?

We can all be brilliant at protesting about that, along with everything that's unpopular, but it doesn't make us worthy Prime Ministers.

It makes you a better PM than one who supports those policies BB!

Not until you turn your promises into actions and see them work correctly it doesn't.

So the answer is to continue to vote for a PM who’s party (and he supported) that position or give someone else a chance to make things better?

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #126 on December 05, 2019, 05:15:25 pm by Bentley Bullet »
If you're a Tory yes!

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #127 on December 05, 2019, 05:21:40 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
If you're a Tory yes!

So, nothing has to change? We just continue and accept those living in poverty as collateral damage?

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #128 on December 05, 2019, 05:30:06 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Of course, things need to change. The argument is how to change it.

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #129 on December 05, 2019, 05:41:34 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
Of course, things need to change. The argument is how to change it.

So why would you vote for the party that put us in this situation in the first place?

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« Reply #130 on December 05, 2019, 05:46:17 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I wouldn't unless I thought it was a better option than the other parties involved.

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #131 on December 05, 2019, 05:49:05 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
And do you think the Tories offer the best option of helping those suffering from their austerity policy??

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #132 on December 05, 2019, 06:30:49 pm by Bentley Bullet »
As I understand it both parties have promised to end austerity, so it depends on who you trust more in. The problem is we'll never know who would deliver the best results on poverty because only one of them will have the chance to prove it.

I don't trust either of them particularly, but I trust Corbyn less.

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« Reply #133 on December 05, 2019, 06:35:20 pm by wilts rover »
The lying from the Tories is just utterly out of control. And no-one seems to give a f**k.

Sajid Javid this time.

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/status/1202565829168128000?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

And before anyone starts, yes, homelessness DID increase under Labour from 1997 to the early 2000s. That was a reflection of the extreme caution of Tony Blair, who insisted that Labour from 97-2001 stick to the Tories' previous spending plans. That was a disaster. After 2001, Gordon Brown insisted that we spend more on public services and social issues. And look what you can do when you do that.

These lying bas**rds have been happy to see homelessness rise for a decade and they've done precisely nothing to combat it. And when they are picked up on it, they just lie. And no-one seems to care anymore.

OK calm down everyone it wasn't a lie, Javid just 'misrembered' a fact. In at least 3 different interviews.

As I pointed out the other day, Diane Abbott forgot some figures and was crucified for it.

The actual Prime Minister and actual Chancellor of the Exchequer (accurate figures being quite important in his job) 'misremember' things, where's the outrage?

https://twitter.com/FactCheck/status/1202623939568111616

wilts rover

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« Reply #134 on December 05, 2019, 06:38:47 pm by wilts rover »
Johnson doesn't know his own tax policies - or even what is in his own manifesto.

Asked  by the BBC why the Tory manifesto shows more money coming in from tax rises than from tax cuts Johnson denied what he manifesto actually shows.

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1202606301471236098

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #135 on December 05, 2019, 06:45:04 pm by Bentley Bullet »
He's in good company then because neither does Corbyn, who claimed only the richest 5% of taxpayers, those earning about £80,000 a year or more, would face tax rises.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #136 on December 05, 2019, 07:06:57 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
The lying from the Tories is just utterly out of control. And no-one seems to give a f**k.

Sajid Javid this time.

https://twitter.com/BBCRealityCheck/status/1202565829168128000?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

And before anyone starts, yes, homelessness DID increase under Labour from 1997 to the early 2000s. That was a reflection of the extreme caution of Tony Blair, who insisted that Labour from 97-2001 stick to the Tories' previous spending plans. That was a disaster. After 2001, Gordon Brown insisted that we spend more on public services and social issues. And look what you can do when you do that.

These lying bas**rds have been happy to see homelessness rise for a decade and they've done precisely nothing to combat it. And when they are picked up on it, they just lie. And no-one seems to care anymore.

The Tory party has put out a press release on this today. No apologies for Javid lying.

They say (get this). The numbers of homeless have more than halved since the peak.

Go and look at the graph in that tweet up above. Look at when the fall happened. And what has happened while they've been in power since 2010.

They are f**king laughing at you. Laughing at you.

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #137 on December 05, 2019, 11:30:28 pm by DonnyOsmond »
JOHNSON DICTIONARY latest:
Working class men = “drunk, criminal, feckless”
Kids of single mothers = “ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive, illegitimate”
Muslim women = “like letterboxes”
Black people = “piccaninnies"
Gay men = “tank-topped bum boys"
Great British public = can’t spell



But this guy gets off with a free pass because Corbyn "may" be anti-semitic.

Nobody who supports Tories and bashes Corbyn ever seems to want to comment on this.

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #138 on December 06, 2019, 08:06:11 am by Herbert Anchovy »
As I understand it both parties have promised to end austerity, so it depends on who you trust more in. The problem is we'll never know who would deliver the best results on poverty because only one of them will have the chance to prove it.

I don't trust either of them particularly, but I trust Corbyn less.

In your opinion, the party most likely to help those suffering due to austerity is the party that put them in that situation? Interesting*

*For ‘interesting’ read ‘completely insane’
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Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #139 on December 06, 2019, 08:16:51 am by Bentley Bullet »
Well if that's the case it looks like there are more insane people in the country that sane ones.

Herbert Anchovy

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« Reply #140 on December 06, 2019, 08:27:27 am by Herbert Anchovy »
Well if that's the case it looks like there are more insane people in the country that sane ones.

I wouldn’t dispute that

foxbat

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« Reply #141 on December 06, 2019, 04:23:07 pm by foxbat »
Oh my god” cry the crowd

'those with learning difficulties should be paid less as they ‘Don’t understand money’

Tory candidate at marginal Hastings hustings
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foxbat

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« Reply #142 on December 06, 2019, 05:22:36 pm by foxbat »
RD Hale
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All I'm saying is if you live in a northern heartland & you vote for the Tories or the Thatcherite Brexit Party, you betray every mining community destroyed by Thatcherism in the 1980s.
You betray your own roots.

Ldr

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« Reply #143 on December 06, 2019, 08:41:17 pm by Ldr »
Theres more to the north than mining, I have no mining heritage trace family back in doncaster to the 1700s so utter b*llocks to that

Not Now Kato

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« Reply #144 on December 07, 2019, 09:34:59 am by Not Now Kato »
Theres more to the north than mining, I have no mining heritage trace family back in doncaster to the 1700s so utter b*llocks to that

Indeed LDR, there IS more to the North than Mining. Why in Doncaster alone we have International Harvester, ICI, Ford, Pegglers, Burton Tailoring, Steel Chords, Glass Bulbs, Rockware Glass, The Plant Works.... Oh, wait....

 

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