He died like a Dog!

[foxbat]

"Ukrainian passenger jet was accidentally shot down by Iranian anti-aircraft missile"

And the manifest truth is that those 176 souls on board would still be alive had Donald Trump not started a 'Wag The Dog' war to detract attention from his impeachment.

[Sprotyrover]

misled by twitter on that , but a useful reminder for anyone thinking about Yankee trade deals

Can't get your facts right about quite a few things just lately

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

"Ukrainian passenger jet was accidentally shot down by Iranian anti-aircraft missile"

And the manifest truth is that those 176 souls on board would still be alive had Donald Trump not started a 'Wag The Dog' war to detract attention from his impeachment.

But did he do the right thing killing this guy? He probably did, the guy was a big part of things that are wrong in the middle east.  Questionable the method that was used though theres no secrets and they'd have known it was Americans if done covertly anyway.

As for shooting the plane down that's a huge mistake from Iran that just should not be made.  I take BSTs point on the psychology of it but that in itself is a failing, the people in charge of that should be capable enough to deal with it.

Identifying a commercial airliner is easy it shouldn't go wrong.

[SydneyRover]

Would you say the same if some 'rogue' nation took out Trump? he's biggest threat to world peace at the moment wouldn't you think bfyp?

[Sprotyrover]

So The Iranian Government has admitted that the Airliner was downed by a short range Ground to Air missile which was fired by Revolutionary Guards!
No doubt there will be some posters on this board who will be blaming Trump for causing this, when actually Iran brought this catastrophe on its self following at least half a dozen aggressive acts towards the US and its Allies.

[wilts rover]

So The Iranian Government has admitted that the Airliner was downed by a short range Ground to Air missile which was fired by Revolutionary Guards!
No doubt there will be some posters on this board who will be blaming Trump for causing this, when actually Iran brought this catastrophe on its self following at least half a dozen aggressive acts towards the US and its Allies.

Iran accidentally shot down a civilian airplane because they had committed 'aggressive acts' towards the US!

Yes Donald. Right Donald.

[Sprotyrover]

About time you Corbynites 'Man up' and see the trees not the woods

[Not Now Kato]

About time you Corbynites 'Man up' and see the trees not the woods

WTF has Corbyn got to do with this? 

[Sprotyrover]

About time you Corbynites 'Man up' and see the trees not the woods

WTF has Corbyn got to do with this? 

Corbyn is an apologist for terrorism its twits like Corbyn that have lead the   Iranian government to think it could 'Push too Far" being a bunch of unrestrained idiots they have managed  to reap what they sowed and after 'Accidentally ' murdering 176 people most of who have family in Iran they now find themselves in an untenable position.

[wilts rover]

Who knew Corbyn had all that power!

There's me thinking it was the chaos following the war in Iraq, the rise of Islamic State, the civil war in Yemen, the civil war in Syria, the return of the Taliban to Afghanistan, the Muslim Brotherhood in Eygpt and now the civil war in Libya that had destablised the Middle East, allowed Iran to flourish and then be destablised themselves by Trump scrapping a UN brokered deal that was working perfectly well.

But all the time it was a pretty minor British politician who wielded all that power, wow.

But thanks for putting me straight on why Corbyn is an apologist for terrorism. Can you now clarify why the bloke who attended IRA fundraisers with Gerry Adams isn't?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-attended-sinn-f-in-fundraiser-months-before-ira-attacked-london-a6767601.html

[SydneyRover]

About time you Corbynites 'Man up' and see the trees not the woods

WTF has Corbyn got to do with this? 

Corbyn is an apologist for terrorism its twits like Corbyn that have lead the   Iranian government to think it could 'Push too Far" being a bunch of unrestrained idiots they have managed  to reap what they sowed and after 'Accidentally ' murdering 176 people most of who have family in Iran they now find themselves in an untenable position.

Help, help is there a psychiatrist in the house 

[Not Now Kato]

About time you Corbynites 'Man up' and see the trees not the woods

WTF has Corbyn got to do with this? 

Corbyn is an apologist for terrorism its twits like Corbyn that have lead the   Iranian government to think it could 'Push too Far" being a bunch of unrestrained idiots they have managed  to reap what they sowed and after 'Accidentally ' murdering 176 people most of who have family in Iran they now find themselves in an untenable position.

I think you have a problem Sproty, I really do.

[Sprotyrover]

About time you Corbynites 'Man up' and see the trees not the woods

WTF has Corbyn got to do with this? 

Corbyn is an apologist for terrorism its twits like Corbyn that have lead the   Iranian government to think it could 'Push too Far" being a bunch of unrestrained idiots they have managed  to reap what they sowed and after 'Accidentally ' murdering 176 people most of who have family in Iran they now find themselves in an untenable position.

Help, help is there a psychiatrist in the house 

Try the self slaps first Sydders, then self refer!

[Sprotyrover]

All of the silly farts on here who spent the best part of 6 weeks torturing us about how the Labour Party was gonna storm into power on Comrade Corbyns rickety old back were also the same peeps to jump into criticism of the Killing of our Iranian Terrorist General Sulieman, they then had the temerity to try to blame the yanks for a bunch of crack pot part time soldiers accidentally shooting down a plane full of innocents which had barely cleared the air space of their main international air terminus.
I think events will show who is to blame,university students refusing to step on the US flag and Israeli flag says it all really.

[Not Now Kato]

All of the silly farts on here who spent the best part of 6 weeks torturing us about how the Labour Party was gonna storm into power on Comrade Corbyns rickety old back were also the same peeps to jump into criticism of the Killing of our Iranian Terrorist General Sulieman, they then had the temerity to try to blame the yanks for a bunch of crack pot part time soldiers accidentally shooting down a plane full of innocents which had barely cleared the air space of their main international air terminus.
I think events will show who is to blame,university students refusing to step on the US flag and Israeli flag says it all really.

I'm right, you really do have a problem!

[wilts rover]

In my opinion this thread appears to have taught us two things:

there isn't any international situation that Donald Trump can't make worse

there is no limit to the blindness of Trump's acolytes who will never believe he is at fault for anything

What it hasn't taught us, yet, is that you can be both against the brutally of the Iranian regime towards its own people and the wider middle east (but they are far from alone in that regard) and against American interference in Iranian affairs that are bound to make the situation there even worse.

[foxbat]

Good summary there Wilts

[Sprotyrover]

In my opinion this thread appears to have taught us two things:

there isn't any international situation that Donald Trump can't make worse

there is no limit to the blindness of Trump's acolytes who will never believe he is at fault for anything

What it hasn't taught us, yet, is that you can be both against the brutally of the Iranian regime towards its own people and the wider middle east (but they are far from alone in that regard) and against American interference in Iranian affairs that are bound to make the situation there even worse.

What American interference are you on about, you know something we don't?