Looking like a perfect storm for Labour

[SydneyRover]

you're correct about the majority of msm being right wing especially the yellow press, draws them in with tits and sport then sells them the the message to hate people on the dole and all your problems lead back to immigrants etc, drip drip drip.

Why do they influence people? maybe the readers don't question what they read enough or they are happy to accept the suggestions.

The sun has approx equal readership with the mail over a month, both owned by very rich people and the Sun belongs to murdoch and has acted appallingly, people have short memories, how can they forget what they did in the Milly Dowler scandal.

Most of the press is owned by extremely rich people with a barrow to push.

The media is not totally to blame for labours problems but it shouldn't be discounted either.

[Sprotyrover]

Corbyn claims he may have lost the Election but he won the Political Argument, I wholeheartedly agree! stay at the helm Jeremy call for another Election,I guarantee your voice will be heard (around your 75th Birthday) and you will get a second chance! And remember with his silver spoon upbringing there are many years left in the old Dog yet!✊️✊️✊️

[SydneyRover]

don't choke on your gloat sprot 

[SydneyRover]

''British media 'most right-wing' in Europe, YouGov survey finds

Readers also ranked the British press as the 'most biased' in the countries surveyed''

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/british-media-is-the-most-right-wing-in-europe-yougov-finds-a6859266.html

this you Jo Public's view on your own media.

[drfchound]

you're correct about the majority of msm being right wing especially the yellow press, draws them in with tits and sport then sells them the the message to hate people on the dole and all your problems lead back to immigrants etc, drip drip drip.

Why do they influence people? maybe the readers don't question what they read enough or they are happy to accept the suggestions.

The sun has approx equal readership with the mail over a month, both owned by very rich people and the Sun belongs to murdoch and has acted appallingly, people have short memories, how can they forget what they did in the Milly Dowler scandal.

Most of the press is owned by extremely rich people with a barrow to push.

The media is not totally to blame for labours problems but it shouldn't be discounted either.

So I am assuming the the very left wing papers that you have consistently posted links from over the past weeks are owned by people who are not wealthy?

[wilts rover]

Very left wing papers - which are those please hound?

I will start of with The Morning Star - and I am afraid my list ends with The Morning Star.

I would never describe newspapers such as The Mirror, The Guardian or The Independent as very left anything. Left of centre certainly but no way could any of these be far left. They all disliked Corbyn, none of them supported him to be leader, all of them supported Owen Smith in his challenge against him and they have all been very critical of his lack of support for remain - ie he wasn't 'centerist' enough.

[drfchound]

Come on wilts, even Labours front benchers didn’t want Corbyn as leader.

[selby]

  I posted a month or so ago Corbyn's future was setting out his allotment.

[Sprotyrover]

When I hear from one I may listen too

You need to start listening to a great deal of things.

[SydneyRover]

  I posted a month or so ago Corbyn's future was setting out his allotment.

I could say if DR/DM listened to you we would be winning more games, but I wouldn't say that 

[BobG]

I can also get a same day appointment with my local GP practice free of charge.

You're bloody lucky then Hound. I live in the extremely well heeled Cotswolds. The absolute minimum notice to get even an emergency appointment is a week. Can I come live with you?

As for the good Jeremy Corbyn I think he will go down in history. He has achieved something remarkable. Unique in fact. His shilly shallying about Brexit lost him the Labour heartlands who want Brexit and lost him the metropolitan intelligentsia who don't. He could only ever satisfy one, but to lose both is downright astounding. The bloke is unintelligent (evidenced by his almost equally remarkable absence of academic achievement) and he has no grasp of history at all. It is now not far short of 50 years since the last Labour leader apart from Tony Blair won a general election. The only succesful Labour leader in nearly half a century really ought to be something of a model. Every other bugger who's tried has failed. What did Tony do different? The answer is obvious of course. And not to the liking of the left. Tony Blair may have only delivered a small part of the socialist dream, but this perpetual harking after obsolete socialism continues to deliver absolutely nothing at all. Unless you count gifting government to the Tory party an achievement.

The working classes have been gamed by the Tory right. Persuaded to vote against their interests in a Tory inflicted referendum designed to resolve their own long standing internal schism. Persuaded to vote against their interests again in order to honour outcome of said referendum with neither discernable benefit nor agreed outcome. Northern and nationalist constituencies have been neglected by both main parties in pursuit of middle class and metropolitan votes. The result is an alienated white working class looking to nationalist and nativist solutions. The winners of that are the Tories and SNP and NI Nationalists. Simples. The audacity and irony of Boris visiting Blair's old constituency as a Tory PM. The years of Thatcherism and deindustrialisation, and deunionisation and Tory post crash austerity forgotten in support of empty slogans and misplaced patriotism.

And Corbyn has allowed all of it to happen. The man should be pilloried.

BobG

PS In the 40 years since Mrs Thatcher was elected in 1979, the Conservatives have been in power for 29 of them. That's 72.5% of the last 40 years. Who, do you suppose, is responsible for the ills of the nation today? Can they be proud of what they have created?