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drfchound

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #30 on April 21, 2020, 08:50:38 pm by drfchound »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.



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Not Now Kato

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #31 on April 22, 2020, 08:46:57 am by Not Now Kato »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

Indeed. Anyone on low wages who has been furloughed will be on 20% less wages, (unless they're lucky to have their employer make up the difference - unlikely in many cases), and looking forward to an uncertain future.
 
It's a sad fact of life that, at times like these, people will need to review their priorities and make cuts accordingly.
 

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #32 on April 22, 2020, 09:49:37 am by rich1471 »
I know a lot of people who are better off even after been furloughed , They have lost 20% of their salary but are not paying for childcare and in some cases its 1k a month, i know this will not be the case for all people , i actually took a second job while i can go back to my normal job if i have one when this is all over   

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #33 on April 22, 2020, 10:08:15 am by Not Now Kato »
I know a lot of people who are better off even after been furloughed , They have lost 20% of their salary but are not paying for childcare and in some cases its 1k a month, i know this will not be the case for all people , i actually took a second job while i can go back to my normal job if i have one when this is all over

I used to work with a number of young ladies who fell into that category. It always puzzled me that they were, in effect, just working to pay a childminder!  To me, that seems a very strange thing to do!

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #34 on April 22, 2020, 10:47:13 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

Indeed. Anyone on low wages who has been furloughed will be on 20% less wages, (unless they're lucky to have their employer make up the difference - unlikely in many cases), and looking forward to an uncertain future.
 
It's a sad fact of life that, at times like these, people will need to review their priorities and make cuts accordingly.
 


And those furloughed on salaries of higher amounts will be even worse off than 20% currently so it is understandable.

At the end of the day football is still more of a luxury than some things isnt it?  Fair play to those who can afford it though, it's a good commitment.

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #35 on April 22, 2020, 01:57:16 pm by silent majority »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament.


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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #36 on April 22, 2020, 02:32:48 pm by Not Now Kato »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament.

You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -
  • Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employment
  • Don't buy tickets on the day for the same reasons
  • Away Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons

I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks.  Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so.
 
I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #37 on April 22, 2020, 02:41:32 pm by drfchound »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament.

You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -
  • Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employment
  • Don't buy tickets on the day for the same reasons
  • Away Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons

I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks.  Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so.
 
I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.






That is an interesting point NNK, about season tickets.
There will be quite a few people who have already bought and paid for their STs for next season, including myself.
I wonder what the situation would be if next season was played over fewer matches or behind closed doors.
Or, if due to having health issues that caused them to be afraid to go, people wanted a refund on their purchase.
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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #38 on April 22, 2020, 02:54:48 pm by Filo »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament.

You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -
  • Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employment
  • Don't buy tickets on the day for the same reasons
  • Away Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons

I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks.  Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so.
 
I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.






That is an interesting point NNK, about season tickets.
There will be quite a few people who have already bought and paid for their STs for next season, including myself.
Ir what the situation would be if next season was played over fewer matches or behind closed doors.
Or, if due to having health issues that caused them to be afraid to go, people wanted a refund on their purchase.

I’ve paid for mine as well, that to me is dead money, it’s gone, I will not seek a refund

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #39 on April 22, 2020, 03:12:57 pm by selby »
  The key is the EFL and the players Union, Public opinion within the majority of the football world and the public at large is overwhelmingly with the smaller clubs.
   The amount of money sloshing around in the Premiership and their open greed and grasping self interest since the pandemic has arose, the attitude of the top players needs to be tapped into, pressure put on government to by taxes on transfers over a certain amount and limiting moneys that can be paid to agents and filtering that money more fairly  to the lower league teams and grass roots and ensure the future of the game, and take it back to the vast majority of the public instead of the few at the top.

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #40 on April 22, 2020, 04:46:01 pm by drfchound »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament.

You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -
  • Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employment
  • Don't buy tickets on the day for the same reasons
  • Away Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons

I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks.  Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so.
 
I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.






That is an interesting point NNK, about season tickets.
There will be quite a few people who have already bought and paid for their STs for next season, including myself.
Ir what the situation would be if next season was played over fewer matches or behind closed doors.
Or, if due to having health issues that caused them to be afraid to go, people wanted a refund on their purchase.

I’ve paid for mine as well, that to me is dead money, it’s gone, I will not seek a refund







I wouldn’t  either but it is a pertinent question and I just put it out there.
There will be people who might feel the need to get a refund to help them through tough times.

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #41 on April 22, 2020, 04:56:36 pm by Pancho Regan »
I've paid for my ST and those of my two daughters and I wouldn't be looking for a refund.
I've spent the money and perhaps I'm fortunate in not needing to ask for it back.

Supporting the Rovers is a huge part of my life. Of course there are more pressing calls on my finances but helping to safeguard my club in any way I can ranks very high on my list of priorities.


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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #42 on April 22, 2020, 05:15:43 pm by NickDRFC »
I know a lot of people who are better off even after been furloughed , They have lost 20% of their salary but are not paying for childcare and in some cases its 1k a month, i know this will not be the case for all people , i actually took a second job while i can go back to my normal job if i have one when this is all over

I used to work with a number of young ladies who fell into that category. It always puzzled me that they were, in effect, just working to pay a childminder!  To me, that seems a very strange thing to do!

Bit of a short term view though - the longer you stay out of work, the harder it is to get back in. Even if you’re just breaking even you’re still potentially climbing the ladder, whereas stopping working for 3/4 years until your kid is in school would be a major block to progression further down the line.

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #43 on April 22, 2020, 05:43:40 pm by idler »
My daughter when she lived in Surrey would have spent almost all of her salary commuting into London daily and on childcare. She took the decision to stay home. She did an OU degree and later became a teacher.
That worked for her and the two boys got excellent pre-school tuition.

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #44 on April 22, 2020, 08:12:26 pm by roversontheup »
Sometimes it’s a case of going to work, even if most of salary is spent on childcare in order to socialise with adults!

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #45 on April 22, 2020, 09:10:38 pm by Not Now Kato »
I know a lot of people who are better off even after been furloughed , They have lost 20% of their salary but are not paying for childcare and in some cases its 1k a month, i know this will not be the case for all people , i actually took a second job while i can go back to my normal job if i have one when this is all over

I used to work with a number of young ladies who fell into that category. It always puzzled me that they were, in effect, just working to pay a childminder!  To me, that seems a very strange thing to do!

Bit of a short term view though - the longer you stay out of work, the harder it is to get back in. Even if you’re just breaking even you’re still potentially climbing the ladder, whereas stopping working for 3/4 years until your kid is in school would be a major block to progression further down the line.

The young ladies I was talking about were call centre agents.  There was very little ladder for them to climb.

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #46 on April 22, 2020, 09:28:47 pm by redarmy82 »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament.

You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -
  • Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employment
  • Don't buy tickets on the day for the same reasons
  • Away Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons

I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks.  Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so.
 
I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.

Then there is commercial aspect too.

How many of the clubs current sponsors and commercial partners will still be around, or willing to spend money?

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #47 on April 23, 2020, 07:09:49 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.

I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament.

You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -
  • Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employment
  • Don't buy tickets on the day for the same reasons
  • Away Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons

I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks.  Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so.
 
I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.

Then there is commercial aspect too.

How many of the clubs current sponsors and commercial partners will still be around, or willing to spend money?

Exactly. I would imagine if the income cant come in the costs should drop with it.  I wonder who the first club to consider staff redundancy where they have to does so?

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Re: Help your club - the Club Doncaster Lottery
« Reply #48 on April 27, 2020, 10:37:50 am by Filo »
How do we know what number we have in the draw, all I have had is my email receipt from signing up, nothing else

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« Reply #49 on April 27, 2020, 11:02:49 am by idler »
I've just checked my letter from when I joined the wife up. It says welcome letter and says contains welcome pack. I know the physical card would come later but there is no attachment showing her numbers either.

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« Reply #50 on April 27, 2020, 12:17:08 pm by rich1471 »
it told me on the first email from Suzanne Uttley  my numbers

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« Reply #51 on April 27, 2020, 01:44:34 pm by graingrover »
I have to thank IDLER for pointing the way on here .He got me to follow his lead and sign the  wife up as well ! I did and she has just won the £500 weekly prize .

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« Reply #52 on April 28, 2020, 12:05:57 pm by graingrover »
My mate took an annual subscription this morning and Suzanne said there  are currently 1300 members .No bad since there are no door to Door sales currently .It equates to weekly income of £2600 for the club and every little helps but I find that those out of work yet still subscribing deserve a big round of applause and it shows what the club means to some folk.

 

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