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To be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.
I know a lot of people who are better off even after been furloughed , They have lost 20% of their salary but are not paying for childcare and in some cases its 1k a month, i know this will not be the case for all people , i actually took a second job while i can go back to my normal job if i have one when this is all over
Quote from: drfchound on April 21, 2020, 08:50:38 pmTo be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket. Indeed. Anyone on low wages who has been furloughed will be on 20% less wages, (unless they're lucky to have their employer make up the difference - unlikely in many cases), and looking forward to an uncertain future. It's a sad fact of life that, at times like these, people will need to review their priorities and make cuts accordingly.
Quote from: drfchound on April 21, 2020, 08:50:38 pmTo be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament.
Quote from: silent majority on April 22, 2020, 01:57:16 pmQuote from: drfchound on April 21, 2020, 08:50:38 pmTo be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament. You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employmentDon't buy tickets on the day for the same reasonsAway Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks. Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so. I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on April 22, 2020, 02:32:48 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 22, 2020, 01:57:16 pmQuote from: drfchound on April 21, 2020, 08:50:38 pmTo be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament. You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employmentDon't buy tickets on the day for the same reasonsAway Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks. Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so. I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.That is an interesting point NNK, about season tickets.There will be quite a few people who have already bought and paid for their STs for next season, including myself.Ir what the situation would be if next season was played over fewer matches or behind closed doors.Or, if due to having health issues that caused them to be afraid to go, people wanted a refund on their purchase.
Quote from: drfchound on April 22, 2020, 02:41:32 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on April 22, 2020, 02:32:48 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 22, 2020, 01:57:16 pmQuote from: drfchound on April 21, 2020, 08:50:38 pmTo be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament. You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employmentDon't buy tickets on the day for the same reasonsAway Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks. Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so. I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.That is an interesting point NNK, about season tickets.There will be quite a few people who have already bought and paid for their STs for next season, including myself.Ir what the situation would be if next season was played over fewer matches or behind closed doors.Or, if due to having health issues that caused them to be afraid to go, people wanted a refund on their purchase.I’ve paid for mine as well, that to me is dead money, it’s gone, I will not seek a refund
Quote from: rich1471 on April 22, 2020, 09:49:37 amI know a lot of people who are better off even after been furloughed , They have lost 20% of their salary but are not paying for childcare and in some cases its 1k a month, i know this will not be the case for all people , i actually took a second job while i can go back to my normal job if i have one when this is all over I used to work with a number of young ladies who fell into that category. It always puzzled me that they were, in effect, just working to pay a childminder! To me, that seems a very strange thing to do!
Quote from: Not Now Kato on April 22, 2020, 10:08:15 amQuote from: rich1471 on April 22, 2020, 09:49:37 amI know a lot of people who are better off even after been furloughed , They have lost 20% of their salary but are not paying for childcare and in some cases its 1k a month, i know this will not be the case for all people , i actually took a second job while i can go back to my normal job if i have one when this is all over I used to work with a number of young ladies who fell into that category. It always puzzled me that they were, in effect, just working to pay a childminder! To me, that seems a very strange thing to do!Bit of a short term view though - the longer you stay out of work, the harder it is to get back in. Even if you’re just breaking even you’re still potentially climbing the ladder, whereas stopping working for 3/4 years until your kid is in school would be a major block to progression further down the line.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on April 22, 2020, 02:32:48 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 22, 2020, 01:57:16 pmQuote from: drfchound on April 21, 2020, 08:50:38 pmTo be fair though, for some people, at this time, paying the rent might seem more important than buying a lottery ticket.I don't think anybody was suggesting anything else, just disappointed that the club finds itself in this predicament. You're absolutely right SM, and a further worry is that it could get worse when this pandemic is all over, (and/or when the current restrictions are lifted), and people either: -Don't renew their Season Tickets due to uncertainty/perceived risk of mixing in crowded stadiums, lack of funds having been on 80% salary for so long, or being out of full time employmentDon't buy tickets on the day for the same reasonsAway Support is lower than expected/budgeted, again due to the same reasons I'm not sure how, but the club needs to be exploring new income streams that will significantly reduce the above risks. Hopefully, with initiatives like the current auction and the lottery, that will help - but I feel they need to be looking beyond the current fan base too; again, they may well be doing - I certainly hope so. I have a strong feeling that football at our level is going to look a whole lot different when this is all over.Then there is commercial aspect too.How many of the clubs current sponsors and commercial partners will still be around, or willing to spend money?