PPE

[wilts rover]

I agree with SM's point about politicisation - and would then refer him back to the OP of this thread and the attempt to troll, bait and blame shift. No attempt to give an insight into the problem or a solution - just blame anyone except the government for it.

The problem with PPE supply now is basically 'you wouldn't start from here'. Back in February/March we were constantly told there was plenty of PPE from the Brexit stockpile. Now it seems there wasn't. Nor was there a plan to provide more when this stockpile ran low.

Despite the myths we didn't win WW1 or WW2 by singing 10 German Bombers. The whole economy was put on a war footing to provide the equipment/provisions/food the country required (alongside sourcing as much as possible from elsewhere).

The government TOLD which companies to produce what they required. They didn't wait for the market to come to them, relied on grannies knitting socks (though they were surely welcome) or scrambled through the phone book for every decreasing supplies. They worked out what was required and got factories making it asap.

Or in both wars, they did once they had got rid of the useless leader and replaced them with an organised one.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Despite the myths we didn't win WW1 or WW2 by singing 10 German Bombers. The whole economy was put on a war footing to provide the equipment/provisions/food the country required (alongside sourcing as much as possible from elsewhere).

This. Precisely.

The first two years of WWI were a disaster, with provision of weapons and munitions left to the private sector and targets regularly missed. When the palace coup toppled Asquith, Lloyd George set about effectively nationalising the process and running it as a command economy from Whitehall.

In WWII, with that lesson learned, pretty much the whole economy was run from Whitehall. Everything from train timetables to Spitfire numbers to what food to deliver where and when.

Some enemies are so dangerous, you have to make these sort of changes to how you run the country. I'm not sending that this has been done in this crisis.

[Sprotyrover]

I agree with SM's point about politicisation - and would then refer him back to the OP of this thread and the attempt to troll, bait and blame shift. No attempt to give an insight into the problem or a solution - just blame anyone except the government for it.

The problem with PPE supply now is basically 'you wouldn't start from here'. Back in February/March we were constantly told there was plenty of PPE from the Brexit stockpile. Now it seems there wasn't. Nor was there a plan to provide more when this stockpile ran low.

Despite the myths we didn't win WW1 or WW2 by singing 10 German Bombers. The whole economy was put on a war footing to provide the equipment/provisions/food the country required (alongside sourcing as much as possible from elsewhere).

The government TOLD which companies to produce what they required. They didn't wait for the market to come to them, relied on grannies knitting socks (though they were surely welcome) or scrambled through the phone book for every decreasing supplies. They worked out what was required and got factories making it asap.

Or in both wars, they did once they had got rid of the useless leader and replaced them with an organised one.

Attempt to Troll,Bit and Blameshift! Thus spake to the great Wiltsshifto mind reader extraordinary!

[SydneyRover]

As IDM's comment directly following your first comment asks 'what your point' well what was it?

[Sprotyrover]

As IDM's comment directly following your first comment asks 'what your point' well what was it?

I think it's come out in the thread Sydders although we have a National health Service it's difunctional and very disjointed due to it's current  structure.

[SydneyRover]

That sort of sounds like you're agreeing with the good guys Sprot?

[Sprotyrover]

That sort of sounds like you're agreeing with the good guys Sprot?

Must be Cabin fever!

[Filo]

This is a disgrace from our Government

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-firms-ask-government-do-you-want-our-ppe-or-not-11981025