Yet More Them and Us Rule Breaking

[bpoolrover]

What rules has he actually broken kato?

[bpoolrover]

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN2440NY

[redwine]

I'd be quite happy for Bedblocker Johnson to be shot over this. But to be fair I'd be in favour of it in any circumstance.

[Not Now Kato]

What rules has he actually broken kato?

Greece currently has an embargo on anyone coming directly from the UK.  So Johnson Snr took a flight to Bulgaria, changed planes there, then on to Greece.  I suppose you'd call that bending the rules?  I call it blatant cheating by breaking the rules via the back door.

[bpoolrover]

But it’s not illegal and he has broke no law would you agree with that?

[Not Now Kato]

But it’s not illegal and he has broke no law would you agree with that?

Well this is what the Greek government say....
 

CAN I COME TO GREECE FROM THE UK?

The United Kingdom, which is still in the Brexit transition period until December 31, is presently treated as an EU member country. However, due to the relatively high incidence of COVID-19 in the country, the Greek government decided to extend the flight ban from the UK until July 15 – the list of countries to which travel restrictions apply is reviewed every two weeks. The ban applies to non-essential travel only.

[bpoolrover]

So no law broken then, I no you would love him to have but he could say it was essential and he went from Bulgaria, yes it might be bending the rules but he won’t be the 1st person in the world to do that

[Ldr]

Leave it Blackpool, he wants to be outraged over f**k all

[Not Now Kato]

Leave it Blackpool, he wants to be outraged over f**k all

So both you and pool are you saying that it that it's absolutely fine for anyone to break the rules and risk the health and lives of others!  And that peoples lives are f**k all?  The mind boggles!
 

 

[Ldr]

Leave it Blackpool, he wants to be outraged over f**k all

So both you and pool are you saying that it that it's absolutely fine for anyone to break the rules and risk the health and lives of others!  And that peoples lives are f**k all?  The mind boggles!
 

 

No, and you know I'm not

[ravenrover]

I hope he doesn't think of coming back before his 14 day quarantine in Greece has expired

[idler]

But it’s not illegal and he has broke no law would you agree with that?

Isn't it funny how big businesses and millionaires regularly exploit planning,tax loopholes and other rules.
It might not be illegal but it shouldn't sit right with any normal tax paying law abiding citizen.
I suppose you applaud  the likes of Google,Amazon, Costa Coffee driving a coach and horses through our laws to avoid paying corporation tax?
Meanwhile Joe Public has his PAYE deducted and if there is a problem feels the full force of the establishment.

[bpoolrover]

Idler, have you never bent the rules in your life, I presume the answer will be yes as I’m sure everyone has?

[idler]

Idler, have you never bent the rules in your life, I presume the answer will be yes as I’m sure everyone has?

I have never bent the rules to cost the country millions or billions of pounds. I have also never bent the rules in a way that could cost a lot of innocent lives.
I have also never been a public figure possibly influencing others to follow my actions.
I worked for a company once where if I hadn't bent the rules on a daily basis production would have suffered badly. I didn't profit from my actions but the company and workforce did.

[bpoolrover]

No but you have still bent the rules so do you approve of amazon costa bending rules to dodge paying taxes?

[BillyStubbsTears]

The realists think, it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form so stop the incessant whinging like schoolgirls and get on with your life

Which is all well and good, unless he contracts the virus and makes the same journey back to the UK, up to 300 contacts on a flight from Greece to Bulgaria in a pressurised cabin with recirculating air, numerous contacts at the airport in Bulgaria, and again up to 300 close contacts on a flight to the UK and the airport contacts involved again, not to mention the people involved at the start and end of his journey with getting him to and from the airport. It all mounts up to a lot of potential infections coming from one person, who happens to be the father of the PM of the UK, highly irresponsible in my opinion 

The more disgraceful aspect to this is what he could have taken INTO Greece.

Greece has been a paragon of virtue in the way it has dealt with CV-19.

They took a sovereign decision (and remember how important THAT principle is on the Right, ok kids!?!) to bar visitors from countries who didn't get their shit together and who still have high infection rates. Like us.

Johnson has just flicked the rods to that by travelling via Bulgaria. It is a PERFECT example of "I'm too important to stick to the rules that the plebs have to follow."

Like father, like adviser, like son. There's a trend...

[wilts rover]

Who are the fools here then?

The people who stick to the rules - or the people who get around/bend them to their own advantage?

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's more subtle than that Wilts.

If a very large number of people break the rules, we are all, as a society, f**ked.

If the vast majority follow the rules, the odd few who break them will not have a big enough effect to cause a major problem for the whole of society.

Cummings ambling round Barnard Castle.

Johnson Snr going to Greece.

Johnson Jnr shaking hands in a CV-19 ward to show what a geezer he is.

They only get to do this without f**king everything up because the overwhelming majority of us have put society first and our personal desires second.

It's not about fools on either side. It's about the majority doing the right thing, and an arrogant elite minority flicking the rods to the rest of us.

If I ever forget why I despise the bas**rds' attitude, this reminds me.

[Not Now Kato]

Leave it Blackpool, he wants to be outraged over f**k all

So both you and pool are you saying that it that it's absolutely fine for anyone to break the rules and risk the health and lives of others!  And that peoples lives are f**k all?  The mind boggles!
 

 

No, and you know I'm not

Then why the silly comment?

[wilts rover]

I would be interested in what some of the other posters in this thread thought of my question though Billy. I wonder if they will give the same answer as you from their posts here?

Although you have missed out by far the best recent example of elite contempt for rules and the people who follow them:

Rees-Mogg saying on live radio that people only died in Grenfell because they didn't use their common sense. If he had been there he would have ignored what the emergency services were instructing him to do - as any one with common sense would have.

[bpoolrover]

It's more subtle than that Wilts.

If a very large number of people break the rules, we are all, as a society, f**ked.

If the vast majority follow the rules, the odd few who break them will not have a big enough effect to cause a major problem for the whole of society.

Cummings ambling round Barnard Castle.

Johnson Snr going to Greece.

Johnson Jnr shaking hands in a CV-19 ward to show what a geezer he is.

They only get to do this without f**king everything up because the overwhelming majority of us have put society first and our personal desires second.

It's not about fools on either side. It's about the majority doing the right thing, and an arrogant elite minority flicking the rods to the rest of us.

If I ever forget why I despise the bas**rds' attitude, this reminds me. The problem is billy why not mention corbyn and his brother why not mention the labour mp who joined the protest standing in the middle of thousands of people with no social distancing, I don’t understand if it bothers you that much why do you only pick the Tory ones out? Are tories the only people who get this disease?

[idler]

No but you have still bent the rules so do you approve of amazon costa bending rules to dodge paying taxes?

I did not break rules to benefit myself and also put nobody at risk unlike the ones being discussed here.

[bpoolrover]

No but you have still bent the rules so do you approve of amazon costa bending rules to dodge paying taxes?

I did not break rules to benefit myself and also put nobody at risk unlike the ones being discussed here.

the only ones getting discussed are Tory ones or their families do you not find that strange? And you said do I approve of amazon ect. When I haven’t broke rules for personal gain so what’s the difference from me and you? I would understand if people listed all the people rulebreaking not just the ones that suits them self I just find it quite sad

[idler]

bpoolrover, I don't have any time for any of them.
Don't you think that it would be a good idea for the people making the rules to set a good example though?
High profile people disregarding their own rules don't inspire others to follow.
Whichever side you are on doesn't excuse you and being under the press microscope makes it even more stupid.

[bpoolrover]

Yes I quite agree with you idler no matter what party no matter who you are you should follow the rules