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Prez

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Rotherham
« on April 18, 2021, 02:13:37 pm by Prez »
Big blow for them losing 1-0 at home to Brum. In big trouble now. Interesting to see they were crying out for a goal and the subs they made didnt include Sadlier. Seems hes not fancied by Warne, despite his injury early on in the season has had very little game time.



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Branton Rover

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Re: Rotherham
« Reply #1 on April 18, 2021, 02:15:16 pm by Branton Rover »
Boxing Day at Rotherham- New Years Day Sheffield S6

Jonathan

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« Reply #2 on April 18, 2021, 02:21:15 pm by Jonathan »
Warne is way out of his depth managing at that level in my opinion. He’s good for a soundbite in an interview, but they played awful anti-football to get promoted last season and on the occasions I’ve watched them this season they’ve looked really short of ideas. I can’t believe Sadlier is barely getting any minutes. It’s not like you can say he’s had chances and been found wanting, he barely seems to get on for a minute. In a game like they’ve had today, at home against a relegation rival and desperate for a goal, then why would you not roll the dice with a player that gets goals and assists? I feel for him, but got little sympathy for Rotherham. We’ll see them next season most likely.

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« Reply #3 on April 18, 2021, 02:47:40 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Warne is way out of his depth managing at that level in my opinion. He’s good for a soundbite in an interview, but they played awful anti-football to get promoted last season and on the occasions I’ve watched them this season they’ve looked really short of ideas. I can’t believe Sadlier is barely getting any minutes. It’s not like you can say he’s had chances and been found wanting, he barely seems to get on for a minute. In a game like they’ve had today, at home against a relegation rival and desperate for a goal, then why would you not roll the dice with a player that gets goals and assists? I feel for him, but got little sympathy for Rotherham. We’ll see them next season most likely.

Clash of styles which Kieran was always going to find it difficult to adapt to and visa versa. Let's face it, we had plenty of debates about his most effective position so given his injury and lack of game time, he was always going to find it difficult to compete with players who do  what it says on the tin.

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« Reply #4 on April 18, 2021, 03:01:00 pm by Chris Black come back »
Warne is way out of his depth managing at that level in my opinion. He’s good for a soundbite in an interview, but they played awful anti-football to get promoted last season and on the occasions I’ve watched them this season they’ve looked really short of ideas. I can’t believe Sadlier is barely getting any minutes. It’s not like you can say he’s had chances and been found wanting, he barely seems to get on for a minute. In a game like they’ve had today, at home against a relegation rival and desperate for a goal, then why would you not roll the dice with a player that gets goals and assists? I feel for him, but got little sympathy for Rotherham. We’ll see them next season most likely.

Don’t know about assists but he only has one goal all season, which probably explains why Warne isn’t giving him that task when he is looking for a player with goals and assists. There is a gulf between scoring goals in League One and the Championship. Some like the Brentford lad can bridge the gulf, others not quite. 

I said he would be back in League One if he moved to Rotherham, and this now looks pretty likely.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2021, 04:15:31 pm by Chris Black come back »

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Re: Rotherham
« Reply #5 on April 18, 2021, 04:03:22 pm by MachoMadness »
It didn't take a genius to work out that he's completely the wrong player for Rotherham's style of play. No wonder he's struggling.

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« Reply #6 on April 18, 2021, 04:16:01 pm by Rovers91 »
I never thought Sadlier would cut it in championship tbh I think hes a good league one player but that lack of pace in championship would catch him out.

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« Reply #7 on April 18, 2021, 04:28:32 pm by NickDRFC »
Warne is way out of his depth managing at that level in my opinion. He’s good for a soundbite in an interview, but they played awful anti-football to get promoted last season and on the occasions I’ve watched them this season they’ve looked really short of ideas. I can’t believe Sadlier is barely getting any minutes. It’s not like you can say he’s had chances and been found wanting, he barely seems to get on for a minute. In a game like they’ve had today, at home against a relegation rival and desperate for a goal, then why would you not roll the dice with a player that gets goals and assists? I feel for him, but got little sympathy for Rotherham. We’ll see them next season most likely.

Don’t know about assists but he only has one goal all season, which probably explains why Warne isn’t giving him that task when he is looking for a player with goals and assists. There is a gulf between scoring goals in League One and the Championship. Some like the Brentford lad can bridge the gulf, others not quite. 

I said he would be back in League One if he moved to Rotherham, and this now looks pretty likely.

I'm not surprised he's only got 1 goal all season - he's only started 3 games (the last on the first weekend of October), when he returned a goal and an assist. Since then he's made a grand total of 9 substitute appearances totalling 114 minutes. Not really much opportunity to do a great deal when you've only played the equivalent of a game and a quarter in 6 months!

That said he lost his place early on and spent a while on the bench before being injured, and since coming back from injury at the start of February hasn't been able to do more than a handful of appearances off there. Warne sees him week in, week out in training and obviously doesn't think he's as good an option as the others at his disposal, or he just doesn't fit into the system at all. If it's a system thing, it begs the question why Warne bought him in the first place, and why Sadlier himself decided to go there.

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« Reply #8 on April 18, 2021, 04:33:36 pm by Chris Black come back »
Warne is way out of his depth managing at that level in my opinion. He’s good for a soundbite in an interview, but they played awful anti-football to get promoted last season and on the occasions I’ve watched them this season they’ve looked really short of ideas. I can’t believe Sadlier is barely getting any minutes. It’s not like you can say he’s had chances and been found wanting, he barely seems to get on for a minute. In a game like they’ve had today, at home against a relegation rival and desperate for a goal, then why would you not roll the dice with a player that gets goals and assists? I feel for him, but got little sympathy for Rotherham. We’ll see them next season most likely.

Don’t know about assists but he only has one goal all season, which probably explains why Warne isn’t giving him that task when he is looking for a player with goals and assists. There is a gulf between scoring goals in League One and the Championship. Some like the Brentford lad can bridge the gulf, others not quite. 

I said he would be back in League One if he moved to Rotherham, and this now looks pretty likely.

I'm not surprised he's only got 1 goal all season - he's only started 3 games (the last on the first weekend of October), when he returned a goal and an assist. Since then he's made a grand total of 9 substitute appearances totalling 114 minutes. Not really much opportunity to do a great deal when you've only played the equivalent of a game and a quarter in 6 months!

That said he lost his place early on and spent a while on the bench before being injured, and since coming back from injury at the start of February hasn't been able to do more than a handful of appearances off there. Warne sees him week in, week out in training and obviously doesn't think he's as good an option as the others at his disposal, or he just doesn't fit into the system at all. If it's a system thing, it begs the question why Warne bought him in the first place, and why Sadlier himself decided to go there.

That's true - although wasn't quite my point. He is unproven at Championship level, so he is not there sat on the bench with a long record of delivering goals or assists at this level. He isn't getting a game presumably because Warne doesn't believe he can change games.

Whether he can if given the chance is another question, but as I say, the leap from League One to Championship is not insignificant. If given a chance he can perhaps prove he can play at that level, but he hasn't been given a chance so hasn't been able to prove himself.

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Re: Rotherham
« Reply #9 on April 18, 2021, 05:26:18 pm by selby »
  Said at the time he signed for them on here, the wrong club for him to go to. He is too much of a footballer off the cuff for Rotherham's game, which is hit it long and pick the second ball up, never ever a fit for them.

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« Reply #10 on April 18, 2021, 05:30:32 pm by 5minstogo »
Doesn't fit the system Rotherham have ended up playing. Didnt start particularly well and then been injured for a decent period. Deserved a chance in the Championship but picked the wrong team. I  think of we had a different manager he may have stayed but I don't think DM appreciated how good he was.

 

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