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normal rules

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The french are planning to go on the offensive.
« on October 14, 2021, 08:37:30 pm by normal rules »
Regarding their access to licences to fish uk waters.

The talk in ports like Boulogne-sur-Mer this week is of blockades, as negotiations and political pressure fail to deliver results quickly enough.
One fisherman quoted as saying. "We'll create as much disruption as we can, by blocking the things Britain needs the most," he said.
"We saw the [impact of the] gas shortage; we'll try to create another shortage of something else. We're ready to block everything: Calais, Dunkirk, the Channel Tunnel. We need this fishing licence and we'll do anything to get it.



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Bentley Bullet

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Re: The french are planning to go on the offensive.
« Reply #1 on October 14, 2021, 08:59:03 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I've heard the Italians have surrendered already!

Metalmicky

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Re: The french are planning to go on the offensive.
« Reply #2 on October 15, 2021, 08:43:57 am by Metalmicky »
Regarding their access to licences to fish uk waters.

The talk in ports like Boulogne-sur-Mer this week is of blockades, as negotiations and political pressure fail to deliver results quickly enough.
One fisherman quoted as saying. "We'll create as much disruption as we can, by blocking the things Britain needs the most," he said.
"We saw the [impact of the] gas shortage; we'll try to create another shortage of something else. We're ready to block everything: Calais, Dunkirk, the Channel Tunnel. We need this fishing licence and we'll do anything to get it.

The sad thing is that the French do this type of posturing at the drop of a hat and I doubt that anything will be done by the French authorities to abate this and minimise disruption. 

However, as far as I can tell the British haven't done anything wrong here.  Under the terms of the post-Brexit Trade and Co-operation Agreement, any EU-registered vessels wishing to fish locally must prove they have operated in Island waters for at least ten days in 2017, 2018 or 2019 - and as far as I am aware the Jersey authorities want to give a licence to every vessel that complies with the requirement of the trade agreement.  The problem seems to be that French fishermen are required to submit information to their regional authorities, before it is then passed to officials in Paris, then on to Brussels, before being passed to Westminster and on to Jersey.  Bureaucracy appears to be the problem here - rather than the British government. 

SydneyRover

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Re: The french are planning to go on the offensive.
« Reply #3 on October 16, 2021, 10:30:44 pm by SydneyRover »
We do have a history of ignoring or disrespecting other countries boundaries, look at the cod wars, waged over hundreds of years and not winning once. Maybe there should be a neutral umpire to make a call here.

River Don

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Re: The french are planning to go on the offensive.
« Reply #4 on October 17, 2021, 12:50:14 am by River Don »
The real problem is we're fishing the oceans clean.

It's just one more example of how overpopulation is screwing everything up. Deforestation, plastic pollution, carbon emissions, mass extinctions, whatever.

This is just a small pressure point.

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Re: The french are planning to go on the offensive.
« Reply #5 on October 17, 2021, 07:08:46 am by Donnywolf »
Regarding their access to licences to fish uk waters.

The talk in ports like Boulogne-sur-Mer this week is of blockades, as negotiations and political pressure fail to deliver results quickly enough.
One fisherman quoted as saying. "We'll create as much disruption as we can, by blocking the things Britain needs the most," he said.
"We saw the [impact of the] gas shortage; we'll try to create another shortage of something else. We're ready to block everything: Calais, Dunkirk, the Channel Tunnel. We need this fishing licence and we'll do anything to get it.

The sad thing is that the French do this type of posturing at the drop of a hat and I doubt that anything will be done by the French authorities to abate this and minimise disruption. 

However, as far as I can tell the British haven't done anything wrong here.  Under the terms of the post-Brexit Trade and Co-operation Agreement, any EU-registered vessels wishing to fish locally must prove they have operated in Island waters for at least ten days in 2017, 2018 or 2019 - and as far as I am aware the Jersey authorities want to give a licence to every vessel that complies with the requirement of the trade agreement.  The problem seems to be that French fishermen are required to submit information to their regional authorities, before it is then passed to officials in Paris, then on to Brussels, before being passed to Westminster and on to Jersey.  Bureaucracy appears to be the problem here - rather than the British government. 

I wonder if that same "Bureaucracy appears to be the problem here - rather than the British government" applies in the cases of ;

a] Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe where we appear to hold [is it] 400 million pounds for Tanks Iran paid for but then we didnt deliver them. She appears a mere pawn as Iran try to get their money back

b] French agreed to police the boat people for us to reduce the numbers reacing UK for 54 million quid. There seems little improvement so we complain that French should be doing more

They say "we will when we get paid" We say "we need a big improvement in what we are getting before we pay" They say " we will improve considerably when we get paid"
Maybe not Bureaucracy in those cases - more a blocker being operated by our Elected officials I suspect
« Last Edit: October 17, 2021, 07:43:55 am by Donnywolf »

 

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