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Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #60 on October 27, 2021, 07:51:01 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
Bostock is a fine footballer with the ball at his feet. You use his strengths and put around him players who can cover his weaknesses. He would go to another club and they would rave about him. We seem at times to like footballers whose first touch is a tackle. The guy is quality if you have the right ones around him.



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Campsall rover

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #61 on October 27, 2021, 08:29:51 pm by Campsall rover »
We had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement.

I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing.

If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.

I think you need to sort out your expectations mate.
We’ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we’ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you’re going on like we’ve lost them both.
Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.

Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.

We created enough chances last night to win comfortably
No we didn’t. That’s the whole point. We dominated possession but how many good chances did we actually create?  Their keeper had a very quiet away day.

Yes we did!
Hiwulu clean through one on one, vilca missing from 4 yards out, their keeper pulling off a good save from smith.

What I don’t understand campsall is you’ve spent the last 4 years berating anyone who date say anything negative towards the side yet now you’ve become one of the most negative posters on here.
I can’t work out if it’s because you don’t like wellens but it’s a bit strange
Steady on, this is the first time I have been critical of the team in a home match this season.
Just saying it as I saw it. 
So creating 3 chances apart from the goal in 95 mins at home is good is it.  Sorry it isn’t imo.
With all that possession we should be creating 10/12 decent chances and scoring from 3 of them.

As for Wellens I have never intimated that I do not like him. I thought he was a very positive appointment and still hold that view. I was quite happy with a mid table finish this season and now will accept just staying up. Next season I will expect us to be top 8/9/10  Hopefully play offs.

GazLaz

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #62 on October 27, 2021, 08:52:01 pm by GazLaz »
I’m a bit frustrated with the Bostock sub.
I’d have been tempted to take off a defender and throw Cukur on. Think we lost a bit in midfield when we should have been going at it for the win.
  Yeah we lost the ability to give the ball away and make stupid 2 yards passes!

I don’t know what people are seeing but bostock keeps possession more than any other player in this league. Yes he may give it away a few times but he passes the ball many more times than anyone else.
His range of passing is too good for league one, he plays deep and plays the short passes as thats what the manager wants him to do, it drags people out of position and leaves spaces that otherwise wouldn’t be there

He made a really slack pass last night that nearly let them in to score but this is third division football! Stuff like that happens.

dickos1

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #63 on October 27, 2021, 10:14:19 pm by dickos1 »
We had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement.

I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing.

If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.

I think you need to sort out your expectations mate.
We’ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we’ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you’re going on like we’ve lost them both.
Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.

Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.

We created enough chances last night to win comfortably
No we didn’t. That’s the whole point. We dominated possession but how many good chances did we actually create?  Their keeper had a very quiet away day.

Yes we did!
Hiwulu clean through one on one, vilca missing from 4 yards out, their keeper pulling off a good save from smith.

What I don’t understand campsall is you’ve spent the last 4 years berating anyone who date say anything negative towards the side yet now you’ve become one of the most negative posters on here.
I can’t work out if it’s because you don’t like wellens but it’s a bit strange
Steady on, this is the first time I have been critical of the team in a home match this season.
Just saying it as I saw it. 
So creating 3 chances apart from the goal in 95 mins at home is good is it.  Sorry it isn’t imo.
With all that possession we should be creating 10/12 decent chances and scoring from 3 of them.

As for Wellens I have never intimated that I do not like him. I thought he was a very positive appointment and still hold that view. I was quite happy with a mid table finish this season and now will accept just staying up. Next season I will expect us to be top 8/9/10  Hopefully play offs.


We scored 1 and created another 2 clear cut chances, we could’ve easily won 3-1 last night and it would’nt have flattered us at all

Campsall rover

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #64 on October 27, 2021, 10:50:48 pm by Campsall rover »
We had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement.

I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing.

If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.

I think you need to sort out your expectations mate.
We%u2019ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we%u2019ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you%u2019re going on like we%u2019ve lost them both.
Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.

Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.

We created enough chances last night to win comfortably
No we didn%u2019t. That%u2019s the whole point. We dominated possession but how many good chances did we actually create?  Their keeper had a very quiet away day.

Yes we did!
Hiwulu clean through one on one, vilca missing from 4 yards out, their keeper pulling off a good save from smith.

What I don%u2019t understand campsall is you%u2019ve spent the last 4 years berating anyone who date say anything negative towards the side yet now you%u2019ve become one of the most negative posters on here.
I can%u2019t work out if it%u2019s because you don%u2019t like wellens but it%u2019s a bit strange
Steady on, this is the first time I have been critical of the team in a home match this season.
Just saying it as I saw it. 
So creating 3 chances apart from the goal in 95 mins at home is good is it.  Sorry it isn%u2019t imo.
With all that possession we should be creating 10/12 decent chances and scoring from 3 of them.

As for Wellens I have never intimated that I do not like him. I thought he was a very positive appointment and still hold that view. I was quite happy with a mid table finish this season and now will accept just staying up. Next season I will expect us to be top 8/9/10  Hopefully play offs.


We scored 1 and created another 2 clear cut chances, we could%u2019ve easily won 3-1 last night and it would%u2019nt have flattered us at all
No it would have flattened us I agree.  But if you create 3 chances and score from all of them then that is great but it is not going to happen very often. You would normally need 10 or more chances created to score 3 goals.

We only scored once last night not 3 times and that was from a 22yard screamer.  So i rest my case.

dickos1

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #65 on October 27, 2021, 11:09:01 pm by dickos1 »
We created more than 3 chances
But the two chances I’m talking about are guilt edge chances that would be scored maybe 8 times out of 10.
We created other chances which weren’t built edge but the chances for hiwulu and vilca were chances they should be scoring

sha66y

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #66 on October 28, 2021, 08:26:53 am by sha66y »
We are not Liverpool!

We are infact a decimated 3rd division team finding it’s feet after a lot of turmoil, and languishing exactly were our football dictates….

Those who harbour mid table aspirations I salute you, your enthusiasm hasn’t been unnoticed, however you are likely to be more openly critical due to your expectations!

ravenrover

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #67 on October 28, 2021, 10:08:02 am by ravenrover »
Wellens only knows how to play one way. When we play teams like Cheltenham who don't work as hard as Cambridge and back off and give us space we look decent. Sadly, most teams in this league aren't like Cheltenham and there is no plan B.

Swirling wind last night. Emergency Cambridge keeper and yet we barely crossed the ball into dangerous positions.
There may be a very good reason we don't get crosses into the box, I'll let you work it out for yourself

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #68 on October 28, 2021, 10:16:07 am by DonnyOsmond »
Wellens only knows how to play one way. When we play teams like Cheltenham who don't work as hard as Cambridge and back off and give us space we look decent. Sadly, most teams in this league aren't like Cheltenham and there is no plan B.

Swirling wind last night. Emergency Cambridge keeper and yet we barely crossed the ball into dangerous positions.
There may be a very good reason we don't get crosses into the box, I'll let you work it out for yourself

To be fair a cross can be drilled into the box, it doesn't have to be floated in everytime.

SydneyRover

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #69 on October 28, 2021, 10:34:01 am by SydneyRover »
Interesting debate in this thread, more so as I didn't see the game.

RugbyRover

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #70 on October 28, 2021, 10:50:41 am by RugbyRover »
Wellens only knows how to play one way. When we play teams like Cheltenham who don't work as hard as Cambridge and back off and give us space we look decent. Sadly, most teams in this league aren't like Cheltenham and there is no plan B.

Swirling wind last night. Emergency Cambridge keeper and yet we barely crossed the ball into dangerous positions.
There may be a very good reason we don't get crosses into the box, I'll let you work it out for yourself

C'mon RR, spill the beans, the suspense is killing me ....

scawsby steve

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #71 on October 28, 2021, 06:39:12 pm by scawsby steve »
We had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement.

I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing.

If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.

I think you need to sort out your expectations mate.
We%u2019ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we%u2019ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you%u2019re going on like we%u2019ve lost them both.
Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.

Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.

We created enough chances last night to win comfortably
No we didn%u2019t. That%u2019s the whole point. We dominated possession but how many good chances did we actually create?  Their keeper had a very quiet away day.

Yes we did!
Hiwulu clean through one on one, vilca missing from 4 yards out, their keeper pulling off a good save from smith.

What I don%u2019t understand campsall is you%u2019ve spent the last 4 years berating anyone who date say anything negative towards the side yet now you%u2019ve become one of the most negative posters on here.
I can%u2019t work out if it%u2019s because you don%u2019t like wellens but it%u2019s a bit strange
Steady on, this is the first time I have been critical of the team in a home match this season.
Just saying it as I saw it. 
So creating 3 chances apart from the goal in 95 mins at home is good is it.  Sorry it isn%u2019t imo.
With all that possession we should be creating 10/12 decent chances and scoring from 3 of them.

As for Wellens I have never intimated that I do not like him. I thought he was a very positive appointment and still hold that view. I was quite happy with a mid table finish this season and now will accept just staying up. Next season I will expect us to be top 8/9/10  Hopefully play offs.


We scored 1 and created another 2 clear cut chances, we could%u2019ve easily won 3-1 last night and it would%u2019nt have flattered us at all
No it would have flattened us I agree.  But if you create 3 chances and score from all of them then that is great but it is not going to happen very often. You would normally need 10 or more chances created to score 3 goals.

We only scored once last night not 3 times and that was from a 22yard screamer.  So i rest my case.

If we'd have won 3-1, it would have been them being flattened, not us.

I sincerely hope we don't get flattened at Charlton.

Campsall rover

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #72 on October 28, 2021, 11:45:57 pm by Campsall rover »
We had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement.

I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing.

If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.

I think you need to sort out your expectations mate.
We%u2019ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we%u2019ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you%u2019re going on like we%u2019ve lost them both.
Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.

Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.

We created enough chances last night to win comfortably
No we didn%u2019t. That%u2019s the whole point. We dominated possession but how many good chances did we actually create?  Their keeper had a very quiet away day.

Yes we did!
Hiwulu clean through one on one, vilca missing from 4 yards out, their keeper pulling off a good save from smith.

What I don%u2019t understand campsall is you%u2019ve spent the last 4 years berating anyone who date say anything negative towards the side yet now you%u2019ve become one of the most negative posters on here.
I can%u2019t work out if it%u2019s because you don%u2019t like wellens but it%u2019s a bit strange
Steady on, this is the first time I have been critical of the team in a home match this season.
Just saying it as I saw it. 
So creating 3 chances apart from the goal in 95 mins at home is good is it.  Sorry it isn%u2019t imo.
With all that possession we should be creating 10/12 decent chances and scoring from 3 of them.

As for Wellens I have never intimated that I do not like him. I thought he was a very positive appointment and still hold that view. I was quite happy with a mid table finish this season and now will accept just staying up. Next season I will expect us to be top 8/9/10  Hopefully play offs.


We scored 1 and created another 2 clear cut chances, we could%u2019ve easily won 3-1 last night and it would%u2019nt have flattered us at all
No it would have flattened us I agree.  But if you create 3 chances and score from all of them then that is great but it is not going to happen very often. You would normally need 10 or more chances created to score 3 goals.

We only scored once last night not 3 times and that was from a 22yard screamer.  So i rest my case.

If we'd have won 3-1, it would have been them being flattened, not us.

I sincerely hope we don't get flattened at Charlton.
:facepalm:

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #73 on October 30, 2021, 07:07:03 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Nothing on this thread recently!

belton rover

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #74 on October 30, 2021, 10:21:50 pm by belton rover »
You are right, Forso. I am beginning to regret my optimism.
Can one regret optimism?

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Slowly Better and Better
« Reply #75 on October 30, 2021, 10:54:27 pm by Bentley Bullet »
You are right, Forso. I am beginning to regret my optimism.
Can one regret optimism?


You can certainly be let down by it! Maybe being a pessimist is the way to go,  then everything bad that happens is expected, and everything good that happens is a bonus.

 

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