Let's talk about the Charlton Athletic game

[Campsall rover]

Another poorly defended cross.

Two huge games now against shit teams. Can we be less shit than them and beat them?

Do we want Wellens in charge for these?

Charlton seem to have done OK sacking their manager.

I don’t know why Charlton are where they are in the league. What was Adkins doing.
I tipped Charlton to finish 2nd behind Ipswich before the season started.

[normal rules]

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[Campsall rover]

4-0 now. This is now getting embarrassing.

Maybe we do need to change manager. But this changing managers on a regular basis is not going to help.
We need some stability but agree the situation needs addressing.
Something very wrong if we are conceding so many goals.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Cukur is on. 

[acacia94]

Colin – Never understand the argument 'what would changing the manager achieve?' It implies managers have no real effect and if the team remains in place nothing can be done. It's just utter b*llocks. Look at the Charlton example.
The results direction of travel has been steadily down under Wellens and there is no evidence that he has what it takes to turn that around. Theres something seriously wrong with Wellens management. The evidence is clearly staring us in the face after 30% of the season's elapsed. 

[normal rules]

Not a single shot on target.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Team full of absolute melts. Managed by a bottle job.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Supported by a bunch of melts too.

Anyone expecting a win at Charlton is deluded. Anyone expecting better performances with further injuries has lost a grasp of reality.

Today was always going to be a tough day. We move on. No point throwing the teddies out of the pram.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

I expected a defeat today. That in itself isn't the bad thing. The bad thing is to also expect a battering. Which also happened.

It is the manner of the defeats. Not the defeats themselves.

Did we give it a real go today? Just couldn't put the ball in the net?

No. We created f**k all like we do every away game and end up looking like a bunch of sorry fairies incapable of showing any b*llocks.  Nothing is improving.

Do any of us expect to go to Crewe and put them to the sword because they are below us?

I expect defeat, and a tepid one. Because there is no evidence thus far to suggest the contrary.

[Colemans Left Hook]

just checked the midweek matches

and we have "boyant " Charlton v The Rotherham steamroller

should Charlton by any chance win then today's result might be seen in a different light

expected Rotherham not to win today

[DRFCSouth]

Seems to be no plan away from home. At home there is some promise. Need a plan b for away games.

And it's the catastrophic defeats that seem avoidable.  Even at 1 or 2 nil it's disappointing,  but to then be losing by 4 or 6, it suggests a bigger problem with dealing with adversity.

[River Don]

Plan B

The same criticism always levelled at SOD.

Shipping goals like we do is simply a defending problem.

[ColinDouglasHandshake]

Conceding at the rate we do wouldn't be so much of an issue if our supposed attacking, passing style of play were creating lots of chances and goals at the other end. But it's not. We are barely in games away from home and rarely score, which is a problem when the opposition have all the play and all the chances.

[BessieBlue]

We were second best over the whole pitch today - apart from the keeper who did ok.

Player for player we were a different league - but you have to expect that from Charlton - their resources are so much above ours. Ok they underperformed under Adkins but not anymore by the looks of things. We can compete against some teams but not all!

[dickos1]

Colin – Never understand the argument 'what would changing the manager achieve?' It implies managers have no real effect and if the team remains in place nothing can be done. It's just utter b*llocks. Look at the Charlton example.
The results direction of travel has been steadily down under Wellens and there is no evidence that he has what it takes to turn that around. Theres something seriously wrong with Wellens management. The evidence is clearly staring us in the face after 30% of the season's elapsed. 

Charlton have as good a squad as anyone in this league, it’s a travesty where they are in the table.
We however have a threadbare squad with 5 of our starting 11 out injured.
A new manager can’t get these back any quicker..