Obligatory ‘he’s scored’ post

[RoversAlias]

Wasn't Alfie May our Player of the Month at the start of that season under Moore? He faded from view until his departure but how much of that was down to the manager just not fancying him?

It was a disappointing but begrudgingly understandable decision to sell him to Cheltenham but there is no doubt he has kicked on since and proven his capability. He may well end up at a much bigger club than Cheltenham in the summer now.

[Bentley Bullet]

Go have a look BB. And ask yourself why he was taken off.

I asked the question how many times was he taken off, and as per usual you don't answer. I know from those games I was there that he was a scapegoat,  and that is why he was taken off. Maybe he was too nice and therefore easy meat for Darren Moore to exploit.

Anyway, unlike others on this forum, I for one saw something about him that warranted more playing time, and I've been proven right.

As I said, it's called vision. Some of us have an eye for a good player, some of us don't.

[ForsolongaRover]

I used to think that Alfie tried to play like John Marquis. He spent a lot of time falling over and unsuccessfully appealing for fouls. Certainly latterly he was used mainly as a sub and that seemed his level in the team at the time.

I suspect that not only do Cheltenham play in a style that accommodates him, but that his present manager and coaching staff have improved the way in which he manages his own game, something which we failed to do here. If nothing else, they have made him more confident of his own ability, a quality that no striker can do without.

I am not sure to what extent successive management teams here have actually worked with players on the basics and would suggest that Watters another example. Some players develop on their own purely though match experience, but others stagnate, especially when they are denied opportunities.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You in one of them moods again BB?

I was merely suggesting you tell us the numbers, not "as per usual not answering".

You have this neediness about you to turn every single interaction into a fight. If you really need someone to pat you on the head and tell you what a good boy you were for spotting that May would score 12 goals in 15 games after two years of being in and out of the Cheltenham side and having a moderate, but not spectacular scoring record, then I'm happy to do it. If only for a bit of peace.

[Bentley Bullet]

ME wanting a fight?

Are you having a laugh?
Is he having a laugh?
HE IS HAVING A LAUGH.

[pigeonhole]

May>Rakish Bingham>Kwame Thomas>Joe Dodoo

These are the levels we’re plumbing with our current squad. It’s tragic that we’re looking at our former third choice striker, who plays for, with respect, Cheltenham, and dreaming of an alternate universe where he is firing us to 15th in the league. Enviously.

What has happened?!

[selby]

BB, if you had the chance of bringing one player in and the choice was between Alfie and Marquis, which one would you bring back in?

[Bentley Bullet]

Alfie.

[Bentley Bullet]

Selby, if you had the chance of bringing in one player from Rakish Bingham, Kwame Thomas, or Alfie May, which one would you bring back in?

[NickDRFC]

Out of those league starts, how many times was he taken off? As I said, he was only allowed to be a fringe player and was only given one fair run in the side, and he responded by being the top scorer.

Had Darren Moore not preferred the likes of Rakish Bingham and  Kwame Thomas maybe there would have still been a place for May now.

When/how long was this run in the side where he was top scorer? I don’t remember him ever scoring on a regular basis for us other than a brace or two in the EFL Trophy and the hat trick (or was it 4 goals?) against a non league outfit in the FA Cup alongside sporadic league goals.

[selby]

Alfie every time BB,and before a few others as well that have been here , but when it comes to Marquis, I think your eye for a player is not quite as good as you think it is IMHO.

[dickos1]

Moore properly had our pants down getting rid of these contracted players and replacing them with loans.
He along with injuries are the two biggest contributing factors to where we are now

[Reg of the Rovers]

Moore properly had our pants down getting rid of these contracted players and replacing them with loans.
He along with injuries are the two biggest contributing factors to where we are now

I absolutely agree, the temporary success we had with Moore was built on the short-term premise of relying on loans, and got rid of anything we could develop as our own. That's in part where the issues with 'identity' come from touted at the start of the year - starting to lose that thread of consistency and foundation through our team, and instead turning over loans who just come and go.

[Bentley Bullet]

Out of those league starts, how many times was he taken off? As I said, he was only allowed to be a fringe player and was only given one fair run in the side, and he responded by being the top scorer.

Had Darren Moore not preferred the likes of Rakish Bingham and  Kwame Thomas maybe there would have still been a place for May now.

When/how long was this run in the side where he was top scorer? I don’t remember him ever scoring on a regular basis for us other than a brace or two in the EFL Trophy and the hat trick (or was it 4 goals?) against a non league outfit in the FA Cup alongside sporadic league goals.

Start of the season 2017/18, May scored 4 goals in the first 5 games.

[ravenrover]

Go have a look BB. And ask yourself why he was taken off.

I asked the question how many times was he taken off, and as per usual you don't answer. I know from those games I was there that he was a scapegoat,  and that is why he was taken off. Maybe he was too nice and therefore easy meat for Darren Moore to exploit.

Anyway, unlike others on this forum, I for one saw something about him that warranted more playing time, and I've been proven right.

As I said, it's called vision. Some of us have an eye for a good player, some of us don't.

I agree about Alfie but I worry about your other eye, what does that see? :-))

[NickDRFC]

Out of those league starts, how many times was he taken off? As I said, he was only allowed to be a fringe player and was only given one fair run in the side, and he responded by being the top scorer.

Had Darren Moore not preferred the likes of Rakish Bingham and  Kwame Thomas maybe there would have still been a place for May now.

When/how long was this run in the side where he was top scorer? I don’t remember him ever scoring on a regular basis for us other than a brace or two in the EFL Trophy and the hat trick (or was it 4 goals?) against a non league outfit in the FA Cup alongside sporadic league goals.

Start of the season 2017/18, May scored 4 goals in the first 5 games.

2 of those goals were when he came on as a sub in the first two league games against Blackburn and Blackpool so it doesn’t equate with you saying that those goals came from a “fair run in the side”.

If you’re looking at fair runs in the side, he started 7 games in a row in February/March 2017 and scored 0 goals.

He was a very likeable but bit part player for us. His performances in games and I’m guessing in training were never going to elevate him above that. It’s great that he’s scoring goals in League One now and he’s clearly developed but we did the right thing selling him when we did (although I’d have him back in a heartbeat!)

[Bentley Bullet]

Go have a look BB. And ask yourself why he was taken off.

I asked the question how many times was he taken off, and as per usual you don't answer. I know from those games I was there that he was a scapegoat,  and that is why he was taken off. Maybe he was too nice and therefore easy meat for Darren Moore to exploit.

Anyway, unlike others on this forum, I for one saw something about him that warranted more playing time, and I've been proven right.

As I said, it's called vision. Some of us have an eye for a good player, some of us don't.

I agree about Alfie but I worry about your other eye, what does that see? :-))

The other eye is occupied watching the likes of BST desperately trying to prove me wrong with almost everything I say. 

[Bentley Bullet]

Out of those league starts, how many times was he taken off? As I said, he was only allowed to be a fringe player and was only given one fair run in the side, and he responded by being the top scorer.

Had Darren Moore not preferred the likes of Rakish Bingham and  Kwame Thomas maybe there would have still been a place for May now.

When/how long was this run in the side where he was top scorer? I don’t remember him ever scoring on a regular basis for us other than a brace or two in the EFL Trophy and the hat trick (or was it 4 goals?) against a non league outfit in the FA Cup alongside sporadic league goals.

Start of the season 2017/18, May scored 4 goals in the first 5 games.

2 of those goals were when he came on as a sub in the first two league games against Blackburn and Blackpool so it doesn’t equate with you saying that those goals came from a “fair run in the side”.

If you’re looking at fair runs in the side, he started 7 games in a row in February/March 2017 and scored 0 goals.

He was a very likeable but bit part player for us. His performances in games and I’m guessing in training were never going to elevate him above that. It’s great that he’s scoring goals in League One now and he’s clearly developed but we did the right thing selling him when we did (although I’d have him back in a heartbeat!)

It was a fair run to his standards if you call being subbed in all 7 games a fair run!  Starting games knowing full well you're going to be subbed unless you put on an astounding display puts a player under far more pressure than coming on as a sub. Ironically, he came on as sub in the next game and scored!

And no, as has been proved, we weren't right to sell him when we did, nor would we have been right to sell him any time later.

Claiming you'd have him back in a heartbeat is a testament that it was a mistake to sell him in the first place.