Marvellous Mansfield

[Panda]

Refreshing to hear a manager give the opposition credit, GMc told it exactly how it was
On the subject of their fans - overall really good but disgusting that some didn’t give Sammy Chung the respect he deserved

This isn't going to be a popular view but they don't have to. They had no association with Sammy Chung and if some were not interested or indifferent then that's their choice. Yes it is considered socially frowned upon to not give respect in instances like this but i don't stand and clap for someone if i don't wish to or if i don't know them, never knew them or have had no association with them. Or indeed if i didn't like or respect them. Everyone has a choice.

Like with Princess Diana when the country stopped after her death. I couldn't care less. I didn't know her, never met her and she had no influence of my life at all so why take part in this fake virtue signalling about her death? I wouldn't do it for some bloke i didn't know existed who had been killed in a motorcycle accident in Stoke so why would i for princess diana? Utter madness.

I clapped for Sammy Chung as i'm a Rovers fan and he has a connection with the club and he was a decent bloke and as a mark of respect based on that. If Jordy Hiwula passed away and the same happened, i'd sit in my seat, ignore the clapping and probably look at my phone the whole time because i didn't know him and had no respect for him. I choose who i want to give my respect to and that's what the Mansfield fans did. Is that ignorance or exercising freedom of choice?

Some chose not to observe the minutes silence because they weren't interested in the slightest and that's fair enough.

Same with a minutes silence. You'd have to be thcik skinned to be the person shouting during one of those but if we are being honest, a lot of people only observe a minutes silence because it is forced upon them and they'd be frowned upon for not going along with one.

Taking the knee. Clearly it's nonsense and those who boo or don't clap have as much right to exercise their freedom of choice as those who flap along with it like demented seals. As if it makes any difference anyway lol.

I personally feel that minutes silences etc should be done away with and if people genuinely wanted to pay their respects to a person who has been deceased i think something like what happened at Bramall Lane when Gary Speed tragically took his own life would be much better.

I went to a game there in the FA Cup soon after his death and they had a kind of small shrine with photos of him etc and people were free to lay scarves, tributes, flowers etc or just stand and remember for as long as they saw fit. Nothing unsightly or OTT but something simple where fans could pay their respects in their own way. If this is deemed a bit convoluted by fans then it shows that minutes silences are being held far too often just because clubs feel that they have to.

Lots to take in but it is discussion after all.

[Colin C No.3]

Nothing to discuss. You’re just voicing your opinion albeit in a long winded version.

[Panda]

Nothing to discuss. You’re just voicing your opinion albeit in a long winded version.

Prime example of a simplistic view. There's a minutes silence so we all must obey. You are right, nothing to discuss.

[roversdude]

Get what you say but it’s simply respect and in the main the Mansfield fans paid that which showed the others up even more

[Panda]

Get what you say but it’s simply respect and in the main the Mansfield fans paid that which showed the others up even more

I take your point RD. Even if Mansfield fans didn't want to participate they could have just stood still and silent for a minute instead of singing during it so i do see that view. That is basic manners i guess.

[Panda]

Talking of weird Mansfield fans behaviour, according to their forum there were quite a few fans who spent pretty much most of the game in the concourse boozing! Freedom of choice yeah but why not just go to the pub and save the price of a match ticket? Bloody weird.

[drfchound]

All goals are preventable aren’t they.
The best defenders in the world get caught out sometimes and it is so easy after the fact to look at a replay and say what should have been done.

[Albert Trousers]

Williams also at fault for their 2nd too. Casually letting the ball roll across in front of him instead of reacting and getting a boot on it. He just stood and watched it. Worst game i've seen him have i think.

He had far worse games last season (plenty too) but yes his worst performance this season, got mom too

[Panda]

Williams also at fault for their 2nd too. Casually letting the ball roll across in front of him instead of reacting and getting a boot on it. He just stood and watched it. Worst game i've seen him have i think.

He had far worse games last season (plenty too) but yes his worst performance this season, got mom too

He got MOM?! In yesterday's game? Surely that can't be right? 

[karldew]

Talking of weird Mansfield fans behaviour, according to their forum there were quite a few fans who spent pretty much most of the game in the concourse boozing! Freedom of choice yeah but why not just go to the pub and save the price of a match ticket? Bloody weird.

On the walk to the stadium Mansfield fans were arguing/scrapping amongst themselves.

[Panda]

Talking of weird Mansfield fans behaviour, according to their forum there were quite a few fans who spent pretty much most of the game in the concourse boozing! Freedom of choice yeah but why not just go to the pub and save the price of a match ticket? Bloody weird.

On the walk to the stadium Mansfield fans were arguing/scrapping amongst themselves.

Bit like some of us on here. 

Weren't a load of Rovers fans scrapping and arguing amongst themselves after a recent game outside the South Stand IIRC?

[Lesonthewest]

Couldn't believe my eyes. McSheffrey actually made a double sub on about 62 minutes instead of waiting until about 75 like normal. Sadly to no avail but a glimmer of hope that he is starting to react quicker when things clearly aren't working.

I’d say he’s pretty much got the subs right in all the other games looking at how we’ve ended them

But not this time. Rowe should have been pushed in to bolster the midfield much earlier, they were cutting through us with ease.

[roversdude]

One of Tommys most ineffective games for us he is not a LB

[DearneValleyRover]

Williams also at fault for their 2nd too. Casually letting the ball roll across in front of him instead of reacting and getting a boot on it. He just stood and watched it. Worst game i've seen him have i think.

He had far worse games last season (plenty too) but yes his worst performance this season, got mom too

He got MOM?! In yesterday's game? Surely that can't be right? 

MOM is chosen by the match sponsor, so basically the player they want to meet, rarely has anything to do with who actually was the best player on the pitch

[roversdude]

We’re the match ball sponsors from Mansfield as they seemed keen to get round to that side of the ground

[Panda]

Williams also at fault for their 2nd too. Casually letting the ball roll across in front of him instead of reacting and getting a boot on it. He just stood and watched it. Worst game i've seen him have i think.

He had far worse games last season (plenty too) but yes his worst performance this season, got mom too

He got MOM?! In yesterday's game? Surely that can't be right? 

MOM is chosen by the match sponsor, so basically the player they want to meet, rarely has anything to do with who actually was the best player on the pitch

Ah, i didn't know that. Well that certainly would make most sense on this occasion.

[Wiltshire Exile]

More positive comments about our fans from the Stags’ forum.

https://stagsnet.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40641

Plus a couple of views re Belle Vue!

[The Beast]

Talking of weird Mansfield fans behaviour, according to their forum there were quite a few fans who spent pretty much most of the game in the concourse boozing! Freedom of choice yeah but why not just go to the pub and save the price of a match ticket? Bloody weird.

Because they wouldn't have the pleasure of giving us money then!

[Padge_DRFC]

More positive comments about our fans from the Stags’ forum.

https://stagsnet.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40641

Plus a couple of views re Belle Vue!

Agree with the bloke who preferred Belle Vue.

[Panda]

Anyone been to York's new stadium? I imagine there are some York fans already pining to go back to the now demolished Bootham Crescent after experiencing football in a soulless identikit stadium.

Proper old ground that. Loved it. Been loads of times in the York end too.

[Goole Rover]

Refreshing to hear a manager give the opposition credit, GMc told it exactly how it was
On the subject of their fans - overall really good but disgusting that some didn’t give Sammy Chung the respect he deserved

This isn't going to be a popular view but they don't have to. They had no association with Sammy Chung and if some were not interested or indifferent then that's their choice. Yes it is considered socially frowned upon to not give respect in instances like this but i don't stand and clap for someone if i don't wish to or if i don't know them, never knew them or have had no association with them. Or indeed if i didn't like or respect them. Everyone has a choice.

Like with Princess Diana when the country stopped after her death. I couldn't care less. I didn't know her, never met her and she had no influence of my life at all so why take part in this fake virtue signalling about her death? I wouldn't do it for some bloke i didn't know existed who had been killed in a motorcycle accident in Stoke so why would i for princess diana? Utter madness.

I clapped for Sammy Chung as i'm a Rovers fan and he has a connection with the club and he was a decent bloke and as a mark of respect based on that. If Jordy Hiwula passed away and the same happened, i'd sit in my seat, ignore the clapping and probably look at my phone the whole time because i didn't know him and had no respect for him. I choose who i want to give my respect to and that's what the Mansfield fans did. Is that ignorance or exercising freedom of choice?

Some chose not to observe the minutes silence because they weren't interested in the slightest and that's fair enough.

Same with a minutes silence. You'd have to be thcik skinned to be the person shouting during one of those but if we are being honest, a lot of people only observe a minutes silence because it is forced upon them and they'd be frowned upon for not going along with one.

Taking the knee. Clearly it's nonsense and those who boo or don't clap have as much right to exercise their freedom of choice as those who flap along with it like demented seals. As if it makes any difference anyway lol.

I personally feel that minutes silences etc should be done away with and if people genuinely wanted to pay their respects to a person who has been deceased i think something like what happened at Bramall Lane when Gary Speed tragically took his own life would be much better.

I went to a game there in the FA Cup soon after his death and they had a kind of small shrine with photos of him etc and people were free to lay scarves, tributes, flowers etc or just stand and remember for as long as they saw fit. Nothing unsightly or OTT but something simple where fans could pay their respects in their own way. If this is deemed a bit convoluted by fans then it shows that minutes silences are being held far too often just because clubs feel that they have to.

Lots to take in but it is discussion after all.

So you have no respect for the hundreds of thousands that you never knew, the ones who fought for your freedom and the life that you enjoy today although enjoy is questionable. I find your opinion vile.
Respect is something that most people thank goodness give without question.

[Panda]

I find the fact that you do not consider a variation of opinion / thinking due to someone's biological neurodiversity regressive and shows a lack of understanding and intolerance. Thanks for your insults though. I'd like to think like you and the vast majority of people as my life would be massively easier but i didn't get a choice. Enjoy your evening.

[Panda]

I didn't say i wouldn't respect army veterans with a minutes silence which is what you inferred so get your facts straight before casting false aspersions. I  was saying that Princess Diana doesn't necessarily warrant observing any tributes because i didn't know her and she's done nothing to help my life. War vets however, although i don't know them have done things to help my life and to give me freedoms so i would of course honour a tribute.

I was saying that it is up to each individual if they want to observe a tribute or not. Not that i actively don't observe all tributes / silences etc which is what you were wrongly implying. I don't anticipate an apology will be forthcoming though.

Would you pay respects to Peter Sutcliffe or Gary Glitter for example? No, because you have an adverse personal opinion on them and would probably choose not to. By your logic everyone deserves respect without question which is nonsense i'm afraid.

If Boris Johnson died then i wouldn't pay respects. Because i have an adverse personal opinion on him that i feel doesn't warrant him any respect. That doesn't make me 'vile' as you call it and i would greatly appreciate you trying to understand that.

[steve@dcfd]

Back to the football in the latest piece in free press GMC blames players for shirking responsibility. Yet at halftime when luckily we went in at 1.   1 he shirked his responsibility by keeping the same side. He should have put Rowe into centre midfield with Clayton and Biggins and made us tighter down the middle. Took off Molyneux or Tomlin and brought on Maxwell at left back.
He said after Northampton game 1. 0 is a good result yet there was no way we were going to keep it at 1 1 with only two in midfield and sometimes Tomlin. Come Gary take some responsibility you have taken the plaudits for our start you should have made a change at halftime you’ve done it before.

[Panda]

Wellens used to blame his players in public didn't he? That turned out well. 

Whilst i agree with taking players to task, it should never be done publicly. if he has a problem with a player he either needs to sort it or drop the player. A lot of managers end up doing neither.

[steve@dcfd]

Panda have changed your name from Colindouglashandshake??

[Panda]

Panda have changed your name from Colindouglashandshake??

By deed poll.