We can't Judge GM till...

[Avsuptem]

One thing is certain GM is not going to get the best out of his players by telling the world that they are not much cop. Many people on here have drawn the conclusion that the team performance is less than the sum of it's parts, its not hard to see why that would be if the manager is denigrating and de -  motivating them like this. I think he needs to publicly detract his words and explain what he meant in a more constructive and positive way. Either that or get his coat.

[Padge_DRFC]

Just get him gone. End this nightmare. I actually think he's trying to get sacked for the quick 12 month salary payout.

[Chris the Rover]

This is appalling. Isn’t it time someone higher up the management chain told him to shut his gob. He’s slagged off the supporters, now it’s the players most of whom he signed. Who’s next Gary - there’s only Copps and the Board left. He’s a dead man walking in my opinion.

[Campsall rover]

Camps,

 I will be the first to admit Mc is pathetic at putting his views across to the press, as I have previously said.

What he says and how it is received by his players is decisive for not losing the dressing room, its called respect. Once that has gone its curtains.

I haven't enjoyed the football played recently to be honest but when Miller and Anderson get back its a better team.

I know I am going against the flow of opinion but I will be sticking with the manager and our team.

We can turn it around and we will.

How is he going to get respect spouting off to the press that his players aren’t good enough.
If that’s not what he meant, then he would be well advised to say what he really means.

Is his use of the English language such that what he means is the opposite of what he said?

Or have the Free press made it all up. Twisted his words and not written what he said?

Which of the above is the truth?

[sedwardsdrfc]

Isn’t Liam Holden at the club now? Maybe he can take over talking to the press? Or at least give this guy some media training I.e. don’t throw players you signed under a bus.

If this is how he talks to the press, when you should be thinking the most, what the hell is he saying to the players in the dressing room??? Blatantly obvious why we start games with zero plan

[Chris Black come back]

Better off putting Liam in the dug out.

[Thorney]

This is appalling. Isn’t it time someone higher up the management chain told him to shut his gob. He’s slagged off the supporters, now it’s the players most of whom he signed. Who’s next Gary - there’s only Copps and the Board left. He’s a dead man walking in my opinion.

I'm as critical as the next person with the performances rovers have put in but where the hell has he slagged off the supporters? He hasn't, people suddenly make mountains out of molehills at every sentence.

[Alan Southstand]

He said social media was draining and who do you think writes stuff about DRFC on there? Yes, DRFC supporters. So, er, in a roundabout way, yes he was slagging back at supporters who were slagging him!

His latest gaff is a good one, though, unless of course, he didn’t actually say it.

[Campsall rover]

This is appalling. Isn’t it time someone higher up the management chain told him to shut his gob. He’s slagged off the supporters, now it’s the players most of whom he signed. Who’s next Gary - there’s only Copps and the Board left. He’s a dead man walking in my opinion.

I'm as critical as the next person with the performances rovers have put in but where the hell has he slagged off the supporters? He hasn't, people suddenly make mountains out of molehills at every sentence.

That is true. All he said was the abuse on Social Media was ‘draining’ as far as I am aware.
Yes the idiots on Twitter are just that. 

But if the words in that FreePress article and previous ones are correct and we have to presume that they are then he is denigrating his own players in public.
Any manager who does that is walking on very thin ice.  Once the players become de motivated enough then they won’t be putting in much if any effort in on match day.
Lose the dressing room and it’s curtains.

Why is he saying what he is if he doesn’t mean what he is saying.
Either he is very stupid indeed or he actually wants to be sacked because he knows he isn’t up to the job and wants out.

[Alickismyhero]

Camps,

 I will be the first to admit Mc is pathetic at putting his views across to the press, as I have previously said.

What he says and how it is received by his players is decisive for not losing the dressing room, its called respect. Once that has gone its curtains.

I haven't enjoyed the football played recently to be honest but when Miller and Anderson get back its a better team.

I know I am going against the flow of opinion but I will be sticking with the manager and our team.

We can turn it around and we will.

How is he going to get respect spouting off to the press that his players aren’t good enough.
If that’s not what he meant, then he would be well advised to say what he really means.

Is his use of the English language such that what he means is the opposite of what he said?

Or have the Free press made it all up. Twisted his words and not written what he said?

Which of the above is the truth?

Camps,
I have no idea what the truth is we will have to wait and see the result. Will the players reject him or will it give them a kick up the backside they deserve?

I think I could name quite a few Prem L managers who slag their teams off to take pressure of themselves when things are going wrong and it seems to work for them.

[Thorney]

This is appalling. Isn’t it time someone higher up the management chain told him to shut his gob. He’s slagged off the supporters, now it’s the players most of whom he signed. Who’s next Gary - there’s only Copps and the Board left. He’s a dead man walking in my opinion.

I'm as critical as the next person with the performances rovers have put in but where the hell has he slagged off the supporters? He hasn't, people suddenly make mountains out of molehills at every sentence.

That is true. All he said was the abuse on Social Media was ‘draining’ as far as I am aware.
Yes the idiots on Twitter are just that. 

But if the words in that FreePress article and previous ones are correct and we have to presume that are then he is denigrating his own players in public.
Any manager who does that is walking on very thin ice.  Once the players become de motivated enough then they won’t be putting in much if any effort in on match day.
Lose the dressing room and it’s curtains.

Why is he saying what he is if he doesn’t mean what he is saying.
Either he is very stupid indeed or he actually wants to be sacked because he knows he isn’t up to the job and wants out.

My comment was purely on the supporters comments. In regards to the players statement he really has some explaining to do behind closed doors. Time will tell in the coming weeks if he has lost the dressing room. I personally don't think he has yet. Think for the next few games copps should maybe take Gary off media duty with the free press (who I think look for sales and click bait) and put Steve in for that.

Do fans think we have players who can play expansive for 90mins? The only players who I find exciting to watch and think can tear teams to bits are Hurst and Knoyle. Though woltman after is little cameo could be. But he is a loan and isn't rovers permanently

[sedwardsdrfc]

Camps,

 I will be the first to admit Mc is pathetic at putting his views across to the press, as I have previously said.

What he says and how it is received by his players is decisive for not losing the dressing room, its called respect. Once that has gone its curtains.

I haven't enjoyed the football played recently to be honest but when Miller and Anderson get back its a better team.

I know I am going against the flow of opinion but I will be sticking with the manager and our team.

We can turn it around and we will.

How is he going to get respect spouting off to the press that his players aren’t good enough.
If that’s not what he meant, then he would be well advised to say what he really means.

Is his use of the English language such that what he means is the opposite of what he said?

Or have the Free press made it all up. Twisted his words and not written what he said?

Which of the above is the truth?

Camps,
I have no idea what the truth is we will have to wait and see the result. Will the players reject him or will it give them a kick up the backside they deserve?

I think I could name quite a few Prem L managers who slag their teams off to take pressure of themselves when things are going wrong and it seems to work for them.

They have often built up a bit of credit by been successful. Not many slag off the team when they signed most of them. At least not many who are still at the same club in 3 months

[ditch_drfc]

Do you know if I didn’t know any better he is wanting to get sacked.

You don’t make the comments he has in the last few weeks if you want to stay in the job. Do you?

"If it happens, it happens"

[StocksArmy]

He signed Miller as his number 1 striker and must have hoped he would stay fit for every game we play. Afterall he made it obvious he didnt want Agard until he scored a few important goals, didnt he have a go at Reo publicly last season for being inconsistent? Signed Josh Andrews and straight away said he was for the games where we need a plan B. I mean..... if we cant afford to sign somebody to push Miller and be confident the guy can comfortably fill his boots when injured or when you fancy digging him out in the press for under performing then what chance do we have of being promotion candidates? Not only that, you have to be tactically savvy enough to find a teams weakness's and create chances for your strikers...... which we dont do on a consistent basis. The club also need to bring in pay as you play contracts to all future players because ive never seen anything like our injury list year on year im surprised were not asking DRI to hire out one of their wards! Just an excuse for these inept managers to hide behind if you ask me. If we get rid now, recruit properly, give the guy time to sort out the areas we are lacking in and back him in January, we can still have a really good season. The longer this goes on, the support is going to dwindle and the club will suffer. For me personally ive supported the club for around 27yrs and spent money i didnt have at times and im at a point now where i just want to be entertained and have a buzz about watching my team play and all we get is the same old tripe and listen to the players and staff say "we improved second half, we showed character etc etc" Sound.... can we have our 11 quid per game back then!?

[Daniel_Smith]

Better off putting Liam in the dug out.

He knows the club 

That's one of the board's prerequisites ticked off 

[Campsall rover]

This is appalling. Isn’t it time someone higher up the management chain told him to shut his gob. He’s slagged off the supporters, now it’s the players most of whom he signed. Who’s next Gary - there’s only Copps and the Board left. He’s a dead man walking in my opinion.

I'm as critical as the next person with the performances rovers have put in but where the hell has he slagged off the supporters? He hasn't, people suddenly make mountains out of molehills at every sentence.

That is true. All he said was the abuse on Social Media was ‘draining’ as far as I am aware.
Yes the idiots on Twitter are just that. 

But if the words in that FreePress article and previous ones are correct and we have to presume that are then he is denigrating his own players in public.
Any manager who does that is walking on very thin ice.  Once the players become de motivated enough then they won’t be putting in much if any effort in on match day.
Lose the dressing room and it’s curtains.

Why is he saying what he is if he doesn’t mean what he is saying.
Either he is very stupid indeed or he actually wants to be sacked because he knows he isn’t up to the job and wants out.

My comment was purely on the supporters comments. In regards to the players statement he really has some explaining to do behind closed doors. Time will tell in the coming weeks if he has lost the dressing room. I personally don't think he has yet. Think for the next few games copps should maybe take Gary off media duty with the free press (who I think look for sales and click bait) and put Steve in for that.

Do fans think we have players who can play expansive for 90mins? The only players who I find exciting to watch and think can tear teams to bits are Hurst and Knoyle. Though woltman after is little cameo could be. But he is a loan and isn't rovers permanently

Depends what is interpreted as expansive.

I just expect to see us on the front foot playing attacking football. 
I want to see the players play without fear, having the self belief that they are better than the opposition. Believing in their ability to win every time they cross that white line.

[Sammy Chung was King]

He’s downplaying the thing so when he fails, and he will, that everyone’s expectations have been lowered.
The last thing we need is a manager having no confidence in the players that he signed.
We can go nowhere with an attitude like that at the top.

 I want the manager building his players up. Making every game seem like it’s well worth coming to.
His negativity is permeating throughout the club. Dean Saunders I didn’t like the style of play he produced but at least went and recruited players to fit that style.

McSheffrey wanted to play a high pressing game and signed older players who couldn’t play this way. Saunders was full of energy, he talked crap but least there was an enjoyment of what he was doing.
I think the board have a decision to make. No promoting from within. We need a new start.

[Cramby10]

You’ve got to wonder who he believes we’re playing against. It’s not exactly Barca or Man City. The standard of our opposition is extremely average. Either he thinks about the game far too much or actually not at all.
We can’t keep a clean sheet anyway so may as well go out there attack the opposition regardless of who they are

[selby]

  The only older player he has signed is Tomlin I think, Taylor, Anderson, Rowe and Close he inherited mostly at the start of longish  contracts and injured, Rowe he resigned this year on reduced terms and was a popular signing with the vast majority of our fans.
  Saunders only put energy into the first team, he didn't know the juniors when they passed in the passage, they meant that much to him he might have thought they were delivery drivers.
  And if you were in the first team, if you were not in the swing of things you were out big time, most of the first team squad thought he was a joke. Jones and some senior players were the catalyst for success that season, and the Chesterfield playing staff were just not having anything to do with him.
  Basically a knob, an entertaining broadcaster who can't lie straight in bed.

[Campsall rover]

Knoyle, Clayton, Rowe, Close, Biggins, Molyneux & Hurst are all players who have more than enough creative ability for this league.
Woltman we haven’t seen much of but looks promising in that area also.

Miller and Agard have more than enough ability to score enough goals for us to win games at this level.
The jury is still out on Griffiths.

Maybe we don’t have a back line at present that will keep many clean sheets but we do have enough fire power to score at least 2 goals a game more often than not.

The return of Anderson Olowu and Miller would be massive for this team.

GM was still getting the team set up with fear even when Miller and Rowe were playing.

This team is perfect for 3-5-2 system. Fergie would love that.
It is not a system I have been enamoured with because the personnel didn’t suit it.
If fit my best 11
In a 3-5-2 would be.

Mitchell

Faulkner/Williams  ( Don’t over play Bobby )
Anderson
Olowu

Knoyle
Clayton
Biggins
Close
Rowe/Hurst/Molyneux

Agard/Hurst
Miller

Biggins would be my most  advanced midfielder in that line up although the 2 wide players would be very advanced when on the offensive getting down the flanks.

In that system I would leave out Maxwell.
Woltman could be used as replacement for Biggins if a change needed.

[drfchound]

The trouble with/for GM is that there is a significant number of people that didn’t want him in the first place. It doesn’t really matter what he does there will always be a significant number of people that will try their best to undermine him at every opportunity. No matter how many points we accumulate or how well we play they will still not be satisfied, as per the callers on R/S the other week wanting us to lose.


COYR

To be fair he has done nothing to prove the doubters wrong has he, apart from a second half at Bradford & a really good performance at Northampton, the 'football' has been turgid, boring, lifeless, tactically naive. Whether you didn't want him in the first place, or backed him to be successful, he has shown very little & his support is dwindling, whichever camp you're in.

I agree that we did well at Bradford and played well at Northampton but for me the best showing this season was the Stockport one.
Yes it was against ten men for 70 minutes but we have seen enough in football to know that playing against ten men doesn’t always turn out to be easy and certainly doesn’t always guarantee a win.
We were incredibly patient and continued to move the ball around really well and eventually got the winner.

[silent majority]

Just get him gone. End this nightmare. I actually think he's trying to get sacked for the quick 12 month salary payout.

You don’t get it as a lump sum, it doesn’t work like that.

[Lesonthewest]

The trouble with/for GM is that there is a significant number of people that didn’t want him in the first place. It doesn’t really matter what he does there will always be a significant number of people that will try their best to undermine him at every opportunity. No matter how many points we accumulate or how well we play they will still not be satisfied, as per the callers on R/S the other week wanting us to lose.


COYR

To be fair he has done nothing to prove the doubters wrong has he, apart from a second half at Bradford & a really good performance at Northampton, the 'football' has been turgid, boring, lifeless, tactically naive. Whether you didn't want him in the first place, or backed him to be successful, he has shown very little & his support is dwindling, whichever camp you're in.

I agree that we did well at Bradford and played well at Northampton but for me the best showing this season was the Stockport one.
Yes it was against ten men for 70 minutes but we have seen enough in football to know that playing against ten men doesn’t always turn out to be easy and certainly doesn’t always guarantee a win.
We were incredibly patient and continued to move the ball around really well and eventually got the winner.

Totally agree, but we had the experience  of Tomlin & Clayton to lean on aswell. Up to the sending off though I thought we were second best.

[Lesonthewest]

You’ve got to wonder who he believes we’re playing against. It’s not exactly Barca or Man City. The standard of our opposition is extremely average. Either he thinks about the game far too much or actually not at all.
We can’t keep a clean sheet anyway so may as well go out there attack the opposition regardless of who they are

Agree with this, I believe, with the squad we have, we could go toe to toe with virtually any team in this league & beat them.