4 4 2 Schofield…

[1-0 to the Doncaster]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

[keith79]

Clayton legs don't carry him in a 4-4-2.  That's why we need the 3.

[GazLaz]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

Teams haven’t played 442 since the 90s!

[Butchers Red]

One of our best spells of the season - 2nd half home versus Stevenage we played exactly that - with the midfield 4 strung accross the width of the pitch, and the full backs bombing on in support.

Jesus it isn't hard to see is it.

[Cramby10]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

Teams haven’t played 442 since the 90s!

just because it’s out of fashion doesn’t mean it’s wrong. To suggest this is ludicrous. Alex Ferguson didn’t do too badly on it.
This football snobbery, by lots and lots in the game by the way, is plain daft. And think probably DS is one of the sheep also.

[Campsall rover]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

Teams haven’t played 442 since the 90s!

That’s rubbish. There are lots of teams currently playing 4-4-2

For a start we played that under Dave Penney.

[Campsall rover]

Clayton legs don't carry him in a 4-4-2.  That's why we need the 3.

Simple, don’t play Clayton.

[Silkscarf]

It should be there as an option that the team understand that DS can call upon when the Pep tribute band routine has inevitably failed us again after 30 minutes.

Right lads, Plan B: Stick someone up with Miller (Agard say). Hurst and Molly get down the wings. Dribble, cross, shoot, win free kicks. Make things happen. That kind of stuff.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

Teams haven’t played 442 since the 90s!

That’s rubbish. There are lots of teams currently playing 4-4-2

For a start we played that under Dave Penney.

He left 16 years ago.....

I don't see many sides playing it successfully at all.  We'd get hammered in midfield for a start.

[Cramby10]

It should be there as an option that the team understand that DS can call upon when the Pep tribute band routine has inevitably failed us again after 30 minutes.

Right lads, Plan B: Stick someone up with Miller (Agard say). Hurst and Molly get down the wings. Dribble, cross, shoot, win free kicks. Make things happen. That kind of stuff.

ha ha. Brilliant. Spot on!!!! Football really isn’t that complicated. The fact that we make it so is a complete farce.

[ravenrover]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

Teams haven’t played 442 since the 90s!

Not at this level they haven't

[Canadian Rover]

On paper we have a fluid three at the back system with attacking wing backs a cultured creative midfield technical support players and a hard working pressing forward. On the pitch we have a slow technically poor defensive set up that play too deep, a slow but committed defensive midfielder, 2 central midfielders that wimp out of challenges, don't press, offer nothing defensively and offer little to nothing in possession and finished with a centre forward that has a poor first touch but works his b*llocks off for the team with little to no support. Rounded off by wing backs who when play well get moved to centre half or dropped for inferior players. The formation isn't necessarily the problem but the managers (sorry head coaches) understanding of how it's being used by our personnel is the problem. And the lack of effort and commitment is relegation worthy (again)

[ravenrover]

Clayton legs don't carry him in a 4-4-2.  That's why we need the 3.

if his legs can't carry him in a 4 with the extra man how can they carry him in a 3?

[selby]

  I can't remember the team that did it in this last world cup, but one team refused to press one of the top sides and just stood in banls in their own half and refused to come out in numbers one just making token challengers up front.
  I said on here in a post we had probably seen the next tactic, totally defensive always 10 outfield players and a keeper between their goal and the ball waiting for a counter attack when the from me to you breaks down.
   Tranmere did it to us Boxing day and we had no answer, only the long ball to Miller looking a threat with his pace running behind but he had no support.
  We will see this more often by the less tallented sides and they extend less energy chasing lost causes against good passing sides, I think if it is the success it has been seen to be by less tallented sides we are in for a period of defensive football again.

[selby]

  Gaz, there is only so much area to a football field, there are always twenty two players on the field at any one time, the secret of great football was invented in the 1960's by the Dutch, total football, players getting into space when their team had the ball ready to receive the ball and getting tight on opposition players, the numbers on their backs and where they were on the field meant very little to the most tallented and drilled side ever.
  The same with the great Tottenham side in the early 1960s that played what was described the push (pass) and run system.
  I know you are a number cruncher of modern football, it is not the be all of all football games, we are heading into a system with no press unless the ball is in a teams own half  mark my words, Pressing high up will be old hat, teams will play on the counter and less room will be given to the attack as room is narrowed down. The number of passes will be irrelevant because if they fart about with it at the back teams will just wait for the inevitable mistake. 
  Besides that the only time you can pick out the system being played in numbers  is when the teams kick off, the greater the player the more he is likely to pop up anywhere.

[keith79]

Clayton legs don't carry him in a 4-4-2.  That's why we need the 3.

if his legs can't carry him in a 4 with the extra man how can they carry him in a 3?

with a 3 they play close together. The 4 play the full width of the pitch. 

[mrfrostsdad]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

The big problem is (as I see it anyway) is that every single qualified coach in the country is trained in exactly the same way. IMO that is why football has become so boring. Sideways backwards, sideways backwards.
It's ok if you're Man City and you have players who are extremely quick and extremely skilful, but we don't. We have Williams, Clayton, Anderson et al who are not very skilful, not very quick and generally not very good

[DonnyOsmond]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

Teams haven’t played 442 since the 90s!

That’s rubbish. There are lots of teams currently playing 4-4-2

For a start we played that under Dave Penney.

He left 16 years ago.....

I don't see many sides playing it successfully at all.  We'd get hammered in midfield for a start.

Miller was 8 when Penney left us, Hurst was 4.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

If the players stroll about with little or no desire or urgency it doesn't matter what formation we play.

[selby]

  donnyOsmond, they can be educated even at this late stage, just show them recordings of those players playing for the shirt and the manager with pride, they might learn something about the people who support the club, the passion that team generated in the town, and how giving everything on the field of play every week is rewarded by people reminiscing about them in years to come.
  You would only tell kids 8 and 4 years old about the present lot if you wanted them to go to sleep early.

[andyst79]

We do not have the quality to play Schofield’s ideological views of football. We are in the depths of the English league 2 where our players have been brought up on 442. Keep it simple and build a base, otherwise it’ll be curtains come the summer.

Will he change it? No chance…

Teams haven’t played 442 since the 90s!

That’s rubbish. There are lots of teams currently playing 4-4-2

For a start we played that under Dave Penney.

He left 16 years ago.....

I don't see many sides playing it successfully at all.  We'd get hammered in midfield for a start.

We get hammered in midfield no matter what formation we play

[ravenrover]

Clayton legs don't carry him in a 4-4-2.  That's why we need the 3.

if his legs can't carry him in a 4 with the extra man how can they carry him in a 3?

with a 3 they play close together. The 4 play the full width of the pitch. 

Good grief it's the answer to why we lose midfield, let other teams play on the whole of the pitch but we'll play just in the middle! Dearie dearie me whatever next.
Playing in a 3 means you need the legs to get around the pitch which rules Clayton out unless you play him as 1 behind a 3 or am I missing something?