State pension.

[ncRover]

nc can you explain this world view, how it works, what it means and how you live by it?

I’m referencing your comment there “maybe if you read something other than the sun or express”. You seem to think that dd has no agency over his own opinions just because they are different to yours.

Anyway, since you asked. I felt a lot more powerful and confident in my life since I realised that I am responsible for myself. Rather than complaining that things aren’t fair or are somebody else’s fault all the time.

So agency over his opinions or your opinions about what he thinks and what I think? it sort of contradicts your above world view, in fact your world view sounds very small, very me.

Ok Sydney you spend the rest of your days getting outraged by politics every morning, I hope it brings you and those around you happiness.

[SydneyRover]

You and dd are very similar as soon as you are questioned you change the subject.

[danumdon]

nc can you explain this world view, how it works, what it means and how you live by it?

I’m referencing your comment there “maybe if you read something other than the sun or express”. You seem to think that dd has no agency over his own opinions just because they are different to yours.

Anyway, since you asked. I felt a lot more powerful and confident in my life since I realised that I am responsible for myself. Rather than complaining that things aren’t fair or are somebody else’s fault all the time.

I was quite prepared to just ignore his self opinionated ignorance of any one who thinks differently to his inward looking socialist group think spiel.

What you stated would be a complete anathema to him, he doesn't want powerful and confident individuals who are independently minded, he wants the whole country to be presiding over and run by people who want to tell you when and what to think, to have no independent means to anything and for his socialist state to be able to control your every waking thought.

The best thing people who think like that could do is go a join him in his backyard and all sit together seething about the world getting on with its life and not requiring their state handouts, diktats and control.

We're all still waiting for you to explain yourself SR, so, when would a pensioner be classed as too wealthy ?

In your own time fella.

[SydneyRover]

I you can show where I said any of that dd, or is it yet again your wonky compass letting you down.

http://www.bom.gov.au/

Here's a link to the gov weather site, at least you'll know that it does rain in Australia.

[danumdon]

I you can show where I said any of that dd, or is it yet again your wonky compass letting you down.

http://www.bom.gov.au/

Here's a link to the gov weather site, at least you'll know that it does rain in Australia.

Fair enough fella you change the goalposts again.

Waste of time trying to converse with ideologists who can never get their own way, you seethe away fella whilst the world ignores you and your like and gets on with its life.

[normal rules]

Incredible to think that a post about state pension, which affects most of us who have yet to reach that point in life,  has descended, once again, into a personal slagging match between some.
Is it that hard to discuss a topic without making it personal?
Is it impossible to have reasoned discussion and debate without insulting each other?

[danumdon]

Incredible to think that a post about state pension, which affects most of us who have yet to reach that point in life,  has descended, once again, into a personal slagging match between some.
Is it that hard to discuss a topic without making it personal?
Is it impossible to have reasoned discussion and debate without insulting each other?

It becomes that way when people would agitate to ensure we all don't eventually qualify for a state pension. Dangerous ideologists need calling out. But your post is noted on my behalf.

[drfchound]

You and dd are very similar as soon as you are questioned you change the subject.

 

[SydneyRover]

nc can you explain this world view, how it works, what it means and how you live by it?

I’m referencing your comment there “maybe if you read something other than the sun or express”. You seem to think that dd has no agency over his own opinions just because they are different to yours.

Anyway, since you asked. I felt a lot more powerful and confident in my life since I realised that I am responsible for myself. Rather than complaining that things aren’t fair or are somebody else’s fault all the time.

So agency over his opinions or your opinions about what he thinks and what I think? it sort of contradicts your above world view, in fact your world view sounds very small, very me.

Ok Sydney you spend the rest of your days getting outraged by politics every morning, I hope it brings you and those around you happiness.

again nc nowhere near an answer, tell me again about your world view, doesn't sound very worldly at all.

[SydneyRover]

Incredible to think that a post about state pension, which affects most of us who have yet to reach that point in life,  has descended, once again, into a personal slagging match between some.
Is it that hard to discuss a topic without making it personal?
Is it impossible to have reasoned discussion and debate without insulting each other?

Maybe you need to go back to the first handful of comment where questions were being asked about those unable to plan for retirement through no fault of their own nr.

[danumdon]

With all the talk about disappearing state pensions i had a look to see how my work pension was progressing after a really crummy 20 months.

At the moment, not bad but im not holding my breath for the next few years, it could be quite a rollercoaster with what's on the horizon.

I wonder if Starmer can save my bacon?

[SydneyRover]

I you can show where I said any of that dd, or is it yet again your wonky compass letting you down.

http://www.bom.gov.au/

Here's a link to the gov weather site, at least you'll know that it does rain in Australia.

Fair enough fella you change the goalposts again.

Waste of time trying to converse with ideologists who can never get their own way, you seethe away fella whilst the world ignores you and your like and gets on with its life.

If you haven't got enough money dd which appears to be why you moan and deny others a reasonable life, you obviously didn't make the right life choices and should have got yourself a better paying job, some people aye?

[danumdon]

I you can show where I said any of that dd, or is it yet again your wonky compass letting you down.

http://www.bom.gov.au/

Here's a link to the gov weather site, at least you'll know that it does rain in Australia.

Fair enough fella you change the goalposts again.

Waste of time trying to converse with ideologists who can never get their own way, you seethe away fella whilst the world ignores you and your like and gets on with its life.

If you haven't got enough money dd which appears to be why you moan and deny others a reasonable life, you obviously didn't make the right life choices and should have got yourself a better paying job, some people aye?

Live and let live is my motto Sydney, I don't think i've ever denied anyone a reasonable life, if anything i've probability paid for quite a few with my tax and Ni contributions so i'm quite happy with my life choices.

As for the better job, don't you worry fella, i'm more than happy with my lot, that's definitely one thing you wont hear me whinge about.

[SydneyRover]

It's difficult with what you've just posted to explain your rants about those on the lower rungs, but there you go.

[danumdon]

My whole argument in this thread is for the "lower rungs" to have some sort of pension entitlement when they retire, not sure what you've been reading?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

It doesn't appear to be too much of an issue really. I've not even had one CV across my desk for someone over the age of 50, which is a shame as needed a bit of experience. So many dropped out of work way before pension age.

[SydneyRover]

My whole argument in this thread is for the "lower rungs" to have some sort of pension entitlement when they retire, not sure what you've been reading?

And the point that you appear to miss is that there isn't room on the ladder for everyone. I don't deny anyone the spoils that has done well (Legally and not through cronyism) through their own efforts contrary to your observations of me, but what I do say is that opportunity and social mobility should be opened up through better education and jobs. Regards education I would rather everyone had the opportunity to get a grammar school education, grammar schools for everyone or none.

[danumdon]

Don't know how long you've been exiled but it looks like your fighting last centuries arguments still. Most LEA's have got rid of their Grammer schools, not many left at all in some areas.

I would of thought you should be arguing for better teaching in state schools as that's were the vast majority of kids will, be schooled.Make sure they have proper and dedicated staff, far more important than worrying about what sort of school they attend.

Sounds like the politics of envy?

Also whats the point of a grammer school education for a child who is payently not up to the level of passing the entrance exam, why would you distroy kids lives like this for an idiology?

[SydneyRover]

'most' huh?

''Repair bill for schools in England doubles to over £11bn, finds survey''

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/may/27/repair-bill-for-schools-in-england-doubles-to-over-11bn-finds-survey

''Teaching unions are warning they will be forced to reballot their members over strike action in the coming months if ministers continue to resist a “sensible solution” to the crisis in teacher recruitment and retention''

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/jan/15/teachers-unions-new-strike-ballots-naht-threshold

Here's a couple of thing to keep you occupied modern man

[danumdon]

So what happened to all the schools built with PFI funding, they were all supposed to be on 25 year maintenance contracts as part of the original funding? Is this not a consequence of the Lab government not tying down these contracts properly?

If teachers want to strike over their pay and conditions that's entirely their choice, i hope they have given their pupils some consideration, after all they'll be the biggest losers in all this.

I see you didn't bother to answer my question in the last paragraph, makes it pointless answering any of your posts.

[SydneyRover]

You are so busy ascribing your opinions and dropping insults into the conversation you miss the thrust of my arguments, I vie for better education for all no matter what it takes, individuals will benefit but the country and all it's people will do so massively.

And the crux of the matter, those supporting the tories by direct or indirect vote are subscribing to all this. Their mismanagement of themselves and the country is palpable. They only know how to pass exams and get into government and as Hyde implies about johnson they don't want to do the hard work.