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Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Investment
« Reply #90 on March 04, 2023, 05:54:33 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.



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scawsby steve

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Re: Investment
« Reply #91 on March 04, 2023, 05:56:47 pm by scawsby steve »
When considering investment and new owners should we not take account of whether (for example) a bunch of people who run an energy company would actually have the expertise to run a football club. Does only money matter? I believe that some US investors in British clubs have owned sports franchises in the States, so they would have a good starting point.

Obviously they would hire football people to manage and coach etc., but investment and spending decisions sit above that operation and it is surely a considerable challenge. Indeed some newcomers may well have come unstuck simply because they lacked that expertise.

You've hit the nail on the head with the word "expertise", mate. When it comes to running a football club, our current chairman is clearly lacking in it.

Being in the bottom half of the lowest tier in the EFL tells us that.

Chris Black come back

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Re: Investment
« Reply #92 on March 04, 2023, 06:21:13 pm by Chris Black come back »
JR owned a cosmetic surgery business and Terry and Dick were builders.

WantleyDragon

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Re: Investment
« Reply #93 on March 04, 2023, 07:06:43 pm by WantleyDragon »
We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.
What makes you think they are good owners?

The clubs plummeted under their sole ownership

WantleyDragon

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Re: Investment
« Reply #94 on March 04, 2023, 07:16:01 pm by WantleyDragon »
Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically

One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.

Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?

You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.

And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"

In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??

I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.

The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.

It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?

glosterred

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Re: Investment
« Reply #95 on March 04, 2023, 07:25:49 pm by glosterred »
We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.

Yep, be careful what you wish for. We all remember our last benefactor don’t we?


COYR

vaya

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Re: Investment
« Reply #96 on March 04, 2023, 07:26:17 pm by vaya »
Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically

One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.

Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?

You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.

And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"

In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??

I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.

The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.

It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?

Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.

WantleyDragon

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Re: Investment
« Reply #97 on March 04, 2023, 07:33:41 pm by WantleyDragon »
Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically

One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.

Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?

You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.

And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"

In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??

I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.

The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.

It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?

Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
No it hasn't, only more doubt has been cast on the current board

vaya

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Re: Investment
« Reply #98 on March 04, 2023, 07:34:57 pm by vaya »
Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically

One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.

Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?

You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.

And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"

In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??

I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.

The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.

It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?

Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
No it hasn't, only more doubt has been cast on the current board

Read again.

WantleyDragon

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Re: Investment
« Reply #99 on March 04, 2023, 07:37:28 pm by WantleyDragon »
Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically

One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.

Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?

You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.

And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"

In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??

I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.

The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.

It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?

Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
No it hasn't, only more doubt has been cast on the current board

Read again.
Bless, think it's you that needs to read again, assuming you can ?

TheDonnyPop

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Re: Investment
« Reply #100 on March 04, 2023, 07:42:16 pm by TheDonnyPop »
Am I getting confused here. This EcoPower company, are they anything to do with a larger green energy group. Or are they just a local waste and skip here company?

no eyed deer

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Re: Investment
« Reply #101 on March 04, 2023, 08:02:39 pm by no eyed deer »
So ECO doesn't have enough money to take the club forward. Yet Terry who has the money, but doesn't have to spend it on the club as its his money ?

Alickismyhero

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Re: Investment
« Reply #102 on March 04, 2023, 08:21:27 pm by Alickismyhero »
Can anyone give me a connection to the Radio Sheffield connection?



Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Investment
« Reply #103 on March 04, 2023, 08:22:35 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically

One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.

Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?

You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.

And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"

In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??

I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.

The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.

It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?

Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
No it hasn't, only more doubt has been cast on the current board

Clearly? More doubt?

Do you really think you should be the person telling others to re-read stuff when you're so contradictory yourself?

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Investment
« Reply #104 on March 04, 2023, 08:25:34 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Different username, same behaviour!?

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Investment
« Reply #105 on March 04, 2023, 08:29:53 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Different username, same behaviour!?

It's one way of pretending you haven't been told the truth several times before.

Alickismyhero

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Re: Investment
« Reply #106 on March 04, 2023, 08:52:23 pm by Alickismyhero »
A word of warning fellow forum members,

 WantleyDragon appears to me to be an agent provocateur.

He knows very little about how things work on the forum/Board yet he is adamant the board should go.

Only been a member since 14/2/23

Only one main view point, Bramal et al out, a one trick pony.

My guess he has a connection with a party interested in a take over.

His objective is to cause unrest among supporters to force the boards hand.

I hope I am wrong but what I do know is that a friend of mine who came up against MR Bramal is that "there is only one winner" Long live this board.

Different username, same behaviour!?

It's one way of pretending you haven't been told the truth several times before.

Muttley

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Re: Investment
« Reply #107 on March 04, 2023, 08:53:59 pm by Muttley »
Am I getting confused here. This EcoPower company, are they anything to do with a larger green energy group. Or are they just a local waste and skip here company?

They are involved in various sectors (see below from their website), but I think the waste/skip business is the largest part

    Plant Hire
    Civil Engineering
    Surfacing
    Environmental
    Rail
    Waste
    Fuels
    The Eco-Power Foundation

EasyforDennis

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Re: Investment
« Reply #108 on March 04, 2023, 09:00:18 pm by EasyforDennis »
If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.

Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers?  Or are they doing that already?

When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.

Where has anyone said anything negative about Club Doncaster in this thread?

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Investment
« Reply #109 on March 05, 2023, 12:23:25 am by Sammy Chung was King »
We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.
What makes you think they are good owners?

The clubs plummeted under their sole ownership

They are honest people. They not trying to destroy the club from the inside. We are not in court facing winding up orders. They are trying to run the club frugally, too frugally in my opinion but they do it with the clubs best interests at heart.

roversdude

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Re: Investment
« Reply #110 on March 05, 2023, 01:45:04 pm by roversdude »
Sammy don’t worry there is “another” WUM about

Upton Rover

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Re: Investment
« Reply #111 on March 05, 2023, 06:02:30 pm by Upton Rover »
If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.

Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers?  Or are they doing that already?

When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.

Where has anyone said anything negative about Club Doncaster in this thread?
I will be negative over Club Doncaster, it should be the football team only, not working

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Investment
« Reply #112 on March 05, 2023, 06:34:18 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.

Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers?  Or are they doing that already?

When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.

Where has anyone said anything negative about Club Doncaster in this thread?
I will be negative over Club Doncaster, it should be the football team only, not working

If it was the football club only, it wouldn't make the savings from combining parts of the businesses. That is the entire point.

elmsallrover

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Re: Investment
« Reply #113 on March 05, 2023, 10:18:20 pm by elmsallrover »
We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.you do know that one day Terry and the rest of the  board will sell the club

Yep, be careful what you wish for. We all remember our last benefactor don’t we?


COYR

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Investment
« Reply #114 on March 06, 2023, 09:10:50 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.

Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers?  Or are they doing that already?

When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.

Where has anyone said anything negative about Club Doncaster in this thread?
I will be negative over Club Doncaster, it should be the football team only, not working

Ok. But please spell out why you think Club Doncaster is a negative thing?

 

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