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It’s not just last night though. It’s the last 2 years, day in, day out disappointment.
DBR, had Rovers been massively successful on the pitch over the last two years, instead of massively unsuccessful, would the club have put the reason for the success down to Club Doncaster?
Quote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 07:58:35 pmQuote from: vaya on March 08, 2023, 06:03:43 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:50:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on March 08, 2023, 05:46:29 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:35:20 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ? Because then all three entities are funding one set of people between them instead of three sets of people in total.Please tell me that you can understand that the cost of one set of people is lower than three sets of people.No, Belles and Dons aren't funding anything, only a drain on resources. The extra staff that comes with those clubs are also a drain. You've still to explain how you know they are being funded and are a drain on resources.Who's told you this?OK. Let's say the Belles and Dons make a profit, ( highly unlikely) their profits go back into each individual club respectively, fair ? What about the funds from the gym, car boot and pitches ? Is that distributed evenly between 3 clubs? Or do Rovers get a bigger share ? Is that fair ? My point is, if all 3 clubs were separate entities ( as they always were ) and Rovers ran the stadium, and collected all proceeds from said revenue streams, plus charged rent to the rugby club for use of the stadium. Rovers would be in a FAR better position, granted Belles and Dons wouldn't be, but then I don't support them. Right, so you've no idea if they are funded not. You've just made stuff up and kept posting it.This is why people just end up ignoring you and you end up changing your user name again.
Quote from: vaya on March 08, 2023, 06:03:43 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:50:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on March 08, 2023, 05:46:29 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:35:20 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ? Because then all three entities are funding one set of people between them instead of three sets of people in total.Please tell me that you can understand that the cost of one set of people is lower than three sets of people.No, Belles and Dons aren't funding anything, only a drain on resources. The extra staff that comes with those clubs are also a drain. You've still to explain how you know they are being funded and are a drain on resources.Who's told you this?OK. Let's say the Belles and Dons make a profit, ( highly unlikely) their profits go back into each individual club respectively, fair ? What about the funds from the gym, car boot and pitches ? Is that distributed evenly between 3 clubs? Or do Rovers get a bigger share ? Is that fair ? My point is, if all 3 clubs were separate entities ( as they always were ) and Rovers ran the stadium, and collected all proceeds from said revenue streams, plus charged rent to the rugby club for use of the stadium. Rovers would be in a FAR better position, granted Belles and Dons wouldn't be, but then I don't support them.
Quote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:50:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on March 08, 2023, 05:46:29 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:35:20 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ? Because then all three entities are funding one set of people between them instead of three sets of people in total.Please tell me that you can understand that the cost of one set of people is lower than three sets of people.No, Belles and Dons aren't funding anything, only a drain on resources. The extra staff that comes with those clubs are also a drain. You've still to explain how you know they are being funded and are a drain on resources.Who's told you this?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on March 08, 2023, 05:46:29 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:35:20 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ? Because then all three entities are funding one set of people between them instead of three sets of people in total.Please tell me that you can understand that the cost of one set of people is lower than three sets of people.No, Belles and Dons aren't funding anything, only a drain on resources. The extra staff that comes with those clubs are also a drain.
Quote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:35:20 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ? Because then all three entities are funding one set of people between them instead of three sets of people in total.Please tell me that you can understand that the cost of one set of people is lower than three sets of people.
Quote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ?
Without Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.
Quote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:50:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on March 08, 2023, 05:46:29 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:35:20 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ? Because then all three entities are funding one set of people between them instead of three sets of people in total.Please tell me that you can understand that the cost of one set of people is lower than three sets of people.No, Belles and Dons aren't funding anything, only a drain on resources. The extra staff that comes with those clubs are also a drain. Absolute poppycock.And why should we spoon feed you when we've gone to the trouble of looking into and understanding all aspects of Club Doncaster, which go far further than just the Don's and Belle's participation.You choose to criticise and make massive assumptions about things you say you know little about. Gain an understanding first, then ask questions and only then can you put yourself in a position to criticise. And, wtf has Club Doncaster got to do with the sh*t show last night? It's like blaming Patienceform for Rovers defeats.
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on March 08, 2023, 08:54:04 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:50:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on March 08, 2023, 05:46:29 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:35:20 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ? Because then all three entities are funding one set of people between them instead of three sets of people in total.Please tell me that you can understand that the cost of one set of people is lower than three sets of people.No, Belles and Dons aren't funding anything, only a drain on resources. The extra staff that comes with those clubs are also a drain. Absolute poppycock.And why should we spoon feed you when we've gone to the trouble of looking into and understanding all aspects of Club Doncaster, which go far further than just the Don's and Belle's participation.You choose to criticise and make massive assumptions about things you say you know little about. Gain an understanding first, then ask questions and only then can you put yourself in a position to criticise. And, wtf has Club Doncaster got to do with the sh*t show last night? It's like blaming Patienceform for Rovers defeats.So, again how is club doncaster a benefit to ROVERS ?
Interestingly, whilst looking back over the years to find information about the birth of Cub Doncaster, I came across this post from 2010https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=72034.0It wasn't too long after this when JR and the KM2, as they were known then, were looking at ways of increasing revenue. If memory serves, when GB was brought on board and further ways of making the stadium complex generate more money were muted and a concept that became known as Club Doncaster was born. There was such a furore about the rise in ST prices (they went up again after this) and even then, some familiar posters were saying the clubs marketing was p*ss poor and we don't hear enough from the board about future plans! https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=71171.0Also interesting comments in the first thread above about the club being up for sale. No interested parties then or since
Quote from: vaya on March 08, 2023, 08:08:54 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 07:58:35 pmQuote from: vaya on March 08, 2023, 06:03:43 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:50:24 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on March 08, 2023, 05:46:29 pmQuote from: WantleyDragon on March 08, 2023, 05:35:20 pmQuote from: i_ateallthepies on March 08, 2023, 12:59:05 pmWithout Club Doncaster the Rovers, Dons and Belles would each need to have their own operating staff, Ticket office, Commercial, Publicity, Admin', Groundstaff etc. With CD there is just one set of staff doing the work for all three clubs. There is a very significant (and very obvious) financial advantage to that which each club benefits from.Why is that an advantage to Rovers, when the football club could just do it on their own without the Belles and Dons draining resources ? Because then all three entities are funding one set of people between them instead of three sets of people in total.Please tell me that you can understand that the cost of one set of people is lower than three sets of people.No, Belles and Dons aren't funding anything, only a drain on resources. The extra staff that comes with those clubs are also a drain. You've still to explain how you know they are being funded and are a drain on resources.Who's told you this?OK. Let's say the Belles and Dons make a profit, ( highly unlikely) their profits go back into each individual club respectively, fair ? What about the funds from the gym, car boot and pitches ? Is that distributed evenly between 3 clubs? Or do Rovers get a bigger share ? Is that fair ? My point is, if all 3 clubs were separate entities ( as they always were ) and Rovers ran the stadium, and collected all proceeds from said revenue streams, plus charged rent to the rugby club for use of the stadium. Rovers would be in a FAR better position, granted Belles and Dons wouldn't be, but then I don't support them. Right, so you've no idea if they are funded not. You've just made stuff up and kept posting it.This is why people just end up ignoring you and you end up changing your user name again.So you can't answer the questions ? Thought not
The trouble with that is, if TB is happy where we are now, having reached our level, the fan base will decrease resulting in us being above our level, financially. The result of that would be to move down to a lower level....... And so on.
I will hold my hand up and say I was very dubious about Club Doncaster (probably because I didn't really understand everything involved) but now I don't see what all the fuss is about.If CD is a profitable, expanding organisation whose profits go to funding DRFC then I cannot see a problem.What I am less happy about is now with the money from CD putting us on a sustainable footing TB feels the need to withdraw his financial contribution. I remember years ago at a MTO meeting TB saying, eventually we will find a level at which we are comfortable. It certainly looks like he is happy where we are and we have reached that level.