Manager and all staff

[wilts rover]

There is no sentimentality in football outside the history books. Players will come to us based entirely on the wages we offer them. Whether we will offer big enough wages to attract the players that people here want - I will let you know in September.

But of course for all those people saying they are not going to buy tickets or support the club in other ways, the less money we have, the less we will be spending.

[Bentley Bullet]

It's a chicken and egg situation. Support us and we'll put the house in order, or we'll put the house in order so you'll come and support us.

[mpc123]

There is no sentimentality in football outside the history books. Players will come to us based entirely on the wages we offer them. Whether we will offer big enough wages to attract the players that people here want - I will let you know in September.

But of course for all those people saying they are not going to buy tickets or support the club in other ways, the less money we have, the less we will be spending.

You can't say spend your hard earned money and time to be bored and pig sick of the situation, if not nothing will happen, that's silly.
We have done that for years.

My stance is very extreme for me, I would always go and support whatever. The problem is it has got that bad that we need the extreme, we are lucky TB is willing, it is now just the decisions, if that's they way they recruit it needs to change.

You can't carry on like this and keep the same people there.

One change and people are coming back, that's it.we need to go into the summer positive and a new start, a good budget, I'm excited even typing it.

[drfchound]

I’m guessing the £20k/£30k reference is the difference between Manager A’s salary and Manager B’s salary. Which is weird given we’ve been told many, many times that the salary is the same for any candidate.

Of course the £20-£30k could be a reference to salary difference but my point was with reference to us having to pay the wages of DS as well as that of McSheff until October, as well as whoever we appoint as the new incumbent.
If we sack DS at anytime, given that he is reportedly on a 12 month rolling contract, it will probably cost £150k or thereabouts.

[Campsall rover]

There is no sentimentality in football outside the history books. Players will come to us based entirely on the wages we offer them. Whether we will offer big enough wages to attract the players that people here want - I will let you know in September.

But of course for all those people saying they are not going to buy tickets or support the club in other ways, the less money we have, the less we will be spending.

Apparently they are not bothered about season ticket sales. Whatever the fans don’t contribute TB will cover the losses.
That’s how it is.

I don’t know how you can run a business like this. Surely any business will die eventually if it hasn’t got enough customers.

Again am I missing something here.  It’s completely barmy isn’t it.

We need some enthusiastic leadership from the top. The Supporters are King in any Football club.
Playing in a 15.000 seater stadium with 3.500 in attendance isn’t going to help the players is it.

We need to see action that will invigorate the fans of this Club. Bums on seats is absolutely key.
That means getting a Manager and players who have a winning mentality. Who know how to win. Who have got the T Shirt. Leaders.
Unless we get them we won’t see a team winning football matches and we won’t be getting Bums on seats.

TB will be emptying his pockets at an alarming rate. How long is he prepared to do that for.

Get the Management, Coaching and player recruitment right this summer and TB won’t be having to bail us out every 5 mins.

Get a winning Football team playing attractive Football and gates will be up to 7.500/8.000
Continue as we are and we will have a desolate stadium. Recipe for disaster.

[goalkick]

Would be interesting to know the number of season tickets sold to date.

[silent majority]

I’m guessing the £20k/£30k reference is the difference between Manager A’s salary and Manager B’s salary. Which is weird given we’ve been told many, many times that the salary is the same for any candidate.

It is the same for any candidate, I was using that as an example to show how ludicrous the 'cheap option' argument is.

[Campsall rover]

Would be interesting to know the number of season tickets sold to date.

Don’t know the figure but it’s well down on last year from what I can gather.
That’s not a surprise is it.

[silent majority]

I am interested in thinking that the Ritchie appointment was poor.. why was that SM?

On another note, covid was a funny one and I don't understand how clubs made money and others scream poverty from it. Maybe it comes down to how well run they are.

On cheap appointments, one of our main sponsors was told by someone at the top that they went with GM so they could bring a couple more players in. The club wouldn't appointment someone like Warnock because they wouldn't like the home truths he told them, but lets be honest that type of manager would never have come in to the thinking of this board. We just appear to stay clear of anyone with any experience.

I said that I thought it was a poor decision, the club themselves must have been impressed with him though. My reasoning was simply that he wasn't the best employee whilst he was with us, but I'm not going into detail on that one.

We did alright under Covid, the accounts reflect that, but it came at a cost and that cost was a massive cut in expenditure in an attempt to survive. As I've said before, nobody had a crystal ball and therefore nobody could tell where it would end. Some decisions made at the time have to be viewed with that in mind.

As for the Warnock thing, just because JR mentions it doesn't make it credible at all.

[selby]

  Only success on the field of play will increase season ticket sales next season, although if some sort of miracle happens, and season ticket sales are down, but we manage to say have a cup run and away tickets are scarce, then those that don't renew don't come on here saying they have been a season ticket holder for x years and can't now get a ticket.
  It is the risk you take bailing out quickly after a long run of relative success by the club and the owners and you were quite happy to jog along with then.
  A club is for life not just when they are winning , that's Man U.er or was he he.

[Goole Rover]

There’s going to be one hell of a humble pie banquet by the posters on here if DS performs anything like next season which I hope he does. I should mention that I’m not referring to the previous but one post.

[Campsall rover]

I am interested in thinking that the Ritchie appointment was poor.. why was that SM?

On another note, covid was a funny one and I don't understand how clubs made money and others scream poverty from it. Maybe it comes down to how well run they are.

On cheap appointments, one of our main sponsors was told by someone at the top that they went with GM so they could bring a couple more players in. The club wouldn't appointment someone like Warnock because they wouldn't like the home truths he told them, but lets be honest that type of manager would never have come in to the thinking of this board. We just appear to stay clear of anyone with any experience.

I said that I thought it was a poor decision, the club themselves must have been impressed with him though. My reasoning was simply that he wasn't the best employee whilst he was with us, but I'm not going into detail on that one.

We did alright under Covid, the accounts reflect that, but it came at a cost and that cost was a massive cut in expenditure in an attempt to survive. As I've said before, nobody had a crystal ball and therefore nobody could tell where it would end. Some decisions made at the time have to be viewed with that in mind.

As for the Warnock thing, just because JR mentions it doesn't make it credible at all.

It’s quite possible SM that Warnock would have come but his salary demand would not have made it a credible proposition.
Is that what you mean?
Your skirting round this a bit if you don’t mind me saying so.
Why would JR have mentioned Warnock if there had not been any truth in it at all.
Warnock may well of told JR he would come to Rovers and try and keep us up.
Something he would definitely have done imo.
The money spent on his wages for 5 months from end of Nov 21 would have been money well spent surely.

[mpc123]

There’s going to be one hell of a humble pie banquet by the posters on here if DS performs anything like next season which I hope he does. I should mention that I’m not referring to the previous but one post.

I'd rather eat humble pie, than the other way round.

I'm totally against keeping DS

[drfchound]

Not to mention the the humble pie eaters who want him to stay if we do find ourselves in the National League for 2024/25 season.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Did anyone eat that same humble pie over McSheffery? Sane arguments last season between those who saw the reality (he was bad) and the blind faith brigade.

Don’t think there was much gloating by those who knew GM wouldn’t make it to Christmas. Hope theres also no gloating if DS does do the unthinkable.

[Goole Rover]

Well I got it right with Marquis, never worth 2 million, never a Championship player.
Regarding DS I don’t know, I certainly haven’t criticised him I just think he deserves a fair chance.

[sedwardsdrfc]

I am interested in thinking that the Ritchie appointment was poor.. why was that SM?

On another note, covid was a funny one and I don't understand how clubs made money and others scream poverty from it. Maybe it comes down to how well run they are.

On cheap appointments, one of our main sponsors was told by someone at the top that they went with GM so they could bring a couple more players in. The club wouldn't appointment someone like Warnock because they wouldn't like the home truths he told them, but lets be honest that type of manager would never have come in to the thinking of this board. We just appear to stay clear of anyone with any experience.

I said that I thought it was a poor decision, the club themselves must have been impressed with him though. My reasoning was simply that he wasn't the best employee whilst he was with us, but I'm not going into detail on that one.

We did alright under Covid, the accounts reflect that, but it came at a cost and that cost was a massive cut in expenditure in an attempt to survive. As I've said before, nobody had a crystal ball and therefore nobody could tell where it would end. Some decisions made at the time have to be viewed with that in mind.

As for the Warnock thing, just because JR mentions it doesn't make it credible at all.

I’m struggling with the massive expenditure cut and no been able to foresee it could lead to this. Ok the budget was probably never a relegation one but did they really not think it a risk. Then to let Welles’s spunk his load on 3 players…. Again looks like something I’d expect an involved chairman to challenge. If your cutting costs value for money is more important. Looks like little consideration was given to that.

And if we keep DS I’d suggest we are still not looking at the whole picture

[scawsby steve]

Well I got it right with Marquis, never worth 2 million, never a Championship player.
Regarding DS I don’t know, I certainly haven’t criticised him I just think he deserves a fair chance.

You're a strange one you, GR. You don't think a striker that's scored 60 odd goals in 3 seasons is worth 2 million; and you don't think 30 games in charge of a badly failing football team is being given a fair chance.

[Butchers Red]

Well if we are to give DS a fair crack of the whip, then lets build a team of like minded, similarly talented back room staff, to help and support him.

Kwasi Kwarteng is currently available, and DS could choose between Matt Hancock or now Dominic Raab to complete the trio.

History awaits this mighty trio of bell ends.

[scawsby steve]

Well if we are to give DS a fair crack of the whip, then lets build a team of like minded, similarly talented back room staff, to help and support him.

Kwasi Kwarteng is currently available, and DS could choose between Matt Hancock or now Dominic Raab to complete the trio.

History awaits this mighty trio of bell ends.

Priti Patel as well. She'd soon whip the players into shape; literally.

[Sammy Chung was King]

The board need to make the money available for players, that will excite the fans enough, to start going to games again. Also players that fit into whoever the manager is’ plans.
The club needs waking up, it’s been running through sludge for years.

The whole thing needs a lot of work, on what has been allowed to deteriorate . The need to put a strong squad good enough to be champions this coming season. We should aim for nothing less than that.

[Cramby10]

The board need to make the money available for players, that will excite the fans enough, to start going to games again. Also players that fit into whoever the manager is’ plans.
The club needs waking up, it’s been running through sludge for years.

The whole thing needs a lot of work, on what has been allowed to deteriorate . The need to put a strong squad good enough to be champions this coming season. We should aim for nothing less than that.

I don’t think signing exciting players is enough now. Dull Danny has done such damage that his place is untenable and I doubt anything he does will win the fans back apart from resign.

[roversdude]

I thought the remit was to restore an identity for Rovers (can imagine what everyone think’s currently) with exciting football. I can’t see the system that DS is locked into providing that, or was it just rhetoric

[Campsall rover]

If DS is going to stick with a 5-2-3 system then he has to get 2 extremely good midfielders signed and a big strong centre forward.

It won’t work otherwise. I think we have all the evidence for that don’t we.

[number19]

There’s going to be one hell of a humble pie banquet by the posters on here if DS performs anything like next season which I hope he does. I should mention that I’m not referring to the previous but one post.

I'll take two pints of whatever you've been drinking..

[Goole Rover]

Well I got it right with Marquis, never worth 2 million, never a Championship player.
Regarding DS I don’t know, I certainly haven’t criticised him I just think he deserves a fair chance.

You're a strange one you, GR. You don't think a striker that's scored 60 odd goals in 3 seasons is worth 2 million; and you don't think 30 games in charge of a badly failing football team is being given a fair chance.

Strange one ? My cousin whose a professor of psychiatry thinks I’m run of the mill. Anyway back to wonder boy, he can’t get a game these days had very good service here. Now theres a player at Cheltenham who can pop them in.