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lee.j09

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Bounced back decisively…
« on May 08, 2023, 04:53:07 pm by lee.j09 »
Who can we hold accountable for the failings?

Poor decisions throughout the club, again.



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roverstillidie91

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #1 on May 08, 2023, 04:56:51 pm by roverstillidie91 »
Unfortunately there is a difference between setting out to do something and then actually planning and actually putting together an action plan to achieve it.

It is essentially an aim not a given and we have to remember there are other teams wanting the same thing as us besides a few who possibly don't aim for promotion

Filo

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #2 on May 08, 2023, 04:59:05 pm by Filo »
Who can we hold accountable for the failings?

Poor decisions throughout the club, again.

There are 3 people that should take responsibility for this, Blunt, Coppinger and Schofield, as of yet not one of them has done that, one is mute, and the other two come out with excuses!

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #3 on May 08, 2023, 05:17:57 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
He just said that without any idea if it was achievable or realistic or how we’d go about it. And it doesn’t look like after saying it he made big moves to make it happen (we kept McSheffery after all). Just a pure sound bite.

I don’t want to hear a word out of him unless it’s DS gone and he’s resigned along with him.

normal rules

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #4 on May 08, 2023, 06:19:16 pm by normal rules »
Who can we hold accountable for the failings?

Poor decisions throughout the club, again.

Regarding those who are accountable. One may as well not exist, the other is held in so high an esteem by many as a player that no one at the club would probably possibly see any wrong with him and the other is utterly clueless as a manager.
its not a good recipe for success.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #5 on May 08, 2023, 07:03:51 pm by steve@dcfd »
Mr Blunt said in an article we would bounce back decisively and just after GMC said in an interview we were aiming for top three. At no time did the HOF come out and say with the lack of funds it was not achievable. After GMC was sacked and DS was hired the talk had gone to the playoffs. Mr Blunt and HOF were responsible for saying we would Bounce Back Decisively the chairman must have got the information from the manager and HOF.
Since then DS and HOF plus his staff and team have taken us on a downward spiral. The Chairman did not supply sufficient funds from the Club Doncaster budget to bring the crucial players we required in January.
Therefore all the senior staff from Chairman to manager and his staff have to be held accountable for our final position .

Will we get a statement from the Chairman explaining why we could not achieve his and the clubs target to Bounce back decisively will we also have a statement from the HOF why with his choice of manager we haven’t achieved the playoffs.

Now do we trust these people to put it right next season. Even with sufficient extra funds we have been promised.

Listen to DS interview all decisions are made by committee he said if he didn’t want a player he would say so.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #6 on May 08, 2023, 08:57:43 pm by Donny Exile in York »
Time to get rid of the job lot. Don't hold Baldwin personally responsible but let's not forget a season ago he made a statement saying we would not get relegated! "Something is rotten in the state of Doncaster'

ncRover

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #7 on May 09, 2023, 08:02:48 am by ncRover »
There is no culture of accountability at the club.

The chairman, head of football and head coach all prefer to bury their heads in the sand and not rock the boat.

This along with poor recruitment and investment has led to the signing of players and coaches that nobody else wanted who are here for an easy ride.

The Head of Football appointment was a chance for root-and-branch change but I worry that Coppinger cannot see things from an objective perspective in the way that an experienced outsider could. That isn’t me slandering or abusing him as a certain happy clapper would say, he is still a club legend. Perhaps a chairman lacking in any drive or passion thought it was an easy appointment to deflect any criticism. In the same way that appointing ex-players as managers rarely works, they become less accountable as they have lots of credit in the bank.

Finishing 18th in league 2 is exactly what we needed as a wake up call. It  would have been much worse without a few slices of luck at the start and a new manager bounce. The model for this season should have been the 12/13 Dean Saunders season in league 1 that came after the shambles of the previous relegation season. There was a bunch of real men we could get behind. But we saw ourselves as somehow above that sort of approach in order to half-heartedly mimic the fashionable football intelligentsia of the moment with talk of “processes” “football played the right way” and positivity to the point of pure delusion. (Alarm bells started ringing for me after several at the club saw the Mansfield performance as positive).

There is nothing wrong with trying to follow the modern progressive approach. But it has to be done with integrity and accountability, or it will crumble. Especially when a solid footballing foundation does not exist at the club.  "Integrity is when what you think and what you say and what you do are one." This isn’t helped when the club’s recruitment policy is based on wishful thinking that we can build an attractive football style with cast-offs who didn’t cut it at a similar level (see Biggins, Miller, Mitchell, Agard, Lavery) and looking for characters based on how much your nan would like them. On the flip side, look at Northampton and Stevenage, I doubt their fans care how pretty it was. Orient play attractive stuff but only can because they have a superb defence.

I have nothing more to add on Schofield, it’s been said a million times.

This is the most important summer window in the club’s recent history. A solid, professional and honest spine needs to be created such as the one that Saunders did. We have a bigger budget but it cannot go to waste. Schofield will likely not last long. The next manager (who hopefully has some experience) cannot be left with a bunch of lightweights, shoulder shruggers and green boys.

In short, the finger can’t be pointed at one person. The entire culture at the club needs to change.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2023, 08:54:34 am by ncRover »

Campsall rover

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #8 on May 09, 2023, 08:29:29 am by Campsall rover »
We all know Schofield will not be successful next season.
That is plainly obvious.
He is so far out of his depth it’s mind boggling that they would even consider keeping him in this job.

So why not get rid now rather than waste money and time before he inevitably gets fired in October or November.
It make no sense whatsoever.

Wake up Copps and Blunt. For crying out loud do your jobs.
Please please act NOW.

Reg of the Rovers

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #9 on May 09, 2023, 09:00:00 am by Reg of the Rovers »
If I was a newly-appointed Director at a poorly performing company, and I was under-qualified and ill-experienced to do that job, I might bring in a manager to work under me who was equally unqualified and ideally someone I had a previous link with, to hide my own inadequacy and also reduce the risk of disagreement / challenge. If I brought in a more experienced manager under me - let's call him Crant McGann - it might expose that I wasn't very good at my job, and was in fact managing someone who was far more competent, credible and capable than I am.

Colin C No.3

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Re: Bounced back decisively…
« Reply #10 on May 09, 2023, 10:34:22 am by Colin C No.3 »
‘Weak men in high positions surround themselves with little men in order that they may seem great by comparison’.

 

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