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Rovers Return

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #30 on May 10, 2023, 06:34:37 pm by Rovers Return »
Doesn’t tell the truth

Unlike you of course!!

Pack this squabbling like junior school children, it’s not welcome.

If you have something meaningful to say SM then say it. Otherwise might I, with all due respect, ask you to refrain from unnecessary back handed one liners.

I presume this is aimed at the other two numptys having a go at SM or are they 'Forum Friends' ? Had a Headmaster like you who ignored the real shit stirrers in the class  :lol: :boxing:



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scawsby steve

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #31 on May 10, 2023, 06:50:37 pm by scawsby steve »
I just don't understand the apparent obsession with getting rid of David Blunt.

I am sure he didn't choose the players we brought in who were not good enough. I am equally sure that he didn't tell Schofield to play his rigid , boring, inflexible formations. He also would not have heralded Todd Miller as the answer to our lack of goals. I furthermore don't really get the problem with him not having Mr Ryan's charismatic personality.

If he has worked with Messrs Bramhall and Baldwin to address the poor performance of our team over the last 2 years or so by investing more in the 1st team then that's surely a good thing.

 He recognised that the performances of our recent team management left a lot to be desired and acted having given them all a chance to achieve the improvement we all craved for. 

Sure, he was part of the board that appointed them but he does not have a crystal ball that told him in advance that they would fail.

Hubert Bates anyone?

John Ryan anyone?

Sorry, mate, but if you think this guy's done a good job as Chairman, then you must have been in a coma for the last 2 years.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2023, 06:53:06 pm by scawsby steve »

Colin C No.3

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #32 on May 10, 2023, 06:51:50 pm by Colin C No.3 »
Doesn’t tell the truth

Unlike you of course!!

Pack this squabbling like junior school children, it’s not welcome.

If you have something meaningful to say SM then say it. Otherwise might I, with all due respect, ask you to refrain from unnecessary back handed one liners.

I presume this is aimed at the other two numptys having a go at SM or are they 'Forum Friends' ? Had a Headmaster like you who ignored the real shit stirrers in the class  :lol: :boxing:

Wrong.

I expect more of SM because he’s intelligent. The others are not worth a mention. Their ‘contributions’ speak volumes about them.

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #33 on May 10, 2023, 07:13:37 pm by Cramby10 »
Danny Schofield had been due to attend the annual event celebrating football in South Yorkshire along with his coaching staff and Rovers’ head of football operations James Coppinger. But none of them were present following news of Schofield’s dismissal that morning. Close was not asked about his manager’s exit.
one can only assume from this is that Copps is on his way out the door also? Surely the HoF should be there. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s resigned in solidarity with his ludicrous choice of Schofield. You’d have thought the head of football would’ve had something to say regarding the removal of a manager by now?
I’m not sad if he has by the way. It’s best he stay a club legend for his playing antics and not be dragged into anything else.
A clean sweep with the broom is best for all concerned.

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #34 on May 10, 2023, 07:20:40 pm by Campsall rover »
I just don't understand the apparent obsession with getting rid of David Blunt.

I am sure he didn't choose the players we brought in who were not good enough. I am equally sure that he didn't tell Schofield to play his rigid , boring, inflexible formations. He also would not have heralded Todd Miller as the answer to our lack of goals. I furthermore don't really get the problem with him not having Mr Ryan's charismatic personality.

If he has worked with Messrs Bramhall and Baldwin to address the poor performance of our team over the last 2 years or so by investing more in the 1st team then that's surely a good thing.

 He recognised that the performances of our recent team management left a lot to be desired and acted having given them all a chance to achieve the improvement we all craved for. 

Sure, he was part of the board that appointed them but he does not have a crystal ball that told him in advance that they would fail.

Hubert Bates anyone?
So didn’t appointing Butler and then GMS tell him anything about the huge risk in appointing a novice manager.
To do it 3 times and get 3 failures is not clever is it.  Copps though takes a large chunk of the blame for DS’s appointment.
Would an experienced HoF have recommended DS?  I very much doubt it.

No one is asking Blunt to be JR mark 2.  What we need is a visible Chairman someone who can genuinely relate to the fans ambitions for the club and be pro active in promoting the Club in the media.
This Chairman is invisible has no empathy with the fans and does absolutely nothing to promote the club in the media.
Nondescript is the word. 
« Last Edit: May 10, 2023, 07:22:45 pm by Campsall rover »

Alan Southstand

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #35 on May 10, 2023, 07:35:13 pm by Alan Southstand »
Ambitions for the Club? Like ‘find our identity’? And ‘we’ll find our level’. These are the kind of statements and quotes that have resulted in the complete apathy that’s enveloped us.

To me, there’s far more needs doing than just appointing a new management team, but it’s a good start.

Ryaldinhio

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #36 on May 10, 2023, 08:13:33 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Danny Schofield had been due to attend the annual event celebrating football in South Yorkshire along with his coaching staff and Rovers’ head of football operations James Coppinger. But none of them were present following news of Schofield’s dismissal that morning. Close was not asked about his manager’s exit.
one can only assume from this is that Copps is on his way out the door also? Surely the HoF should be there. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s resigned in solidarity with his ludicrous choice of Schofield. You’d have thought the head of football would’ve had something to say regarding the removal of a manager by now?
I’m not sad if he has by the way. It’s best he stay a club legend for his playing antics and not be dragged into anything else.
A clean sweep with the broom is best for all concerned.

That was my thoughts aswell. If Copps had been part of the descision to remove DS then he would have been at the do. My first thought was a Copps stance of "well if he goes then I go aswell".

Sure it will all come out in the next week or so. I personally don't want Copps to leave. People have been hammering him for his role but he has only been in this role 12-18m and during a time the only focus was cutting costs? What chance has anyone got with that remit? He is and will always be a legend to this club IMO.

scawsby steve

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #37 on May 10, 2023, 08:30:57 pm by scawsby steve »
If GM is set on, I reckon Copps' role will have to be revalued and maybe modified. I cant see GM answering to Copps, or anyone else, regarding first team matters.

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #38 on May 10, 2023, 11:39:56 pm by ForsolongaRover »
I suppose that somehow Blunt has never seemed much more than a nominal chairman, a man put in the job by a benefactor who has neither the time nor the inclination to fulfil the role himself.

TB obviously trusts Blunt with his money and the appointment of Copps to his role was a way of devolving the management of the football to him.

I am not saying Blunt is innocent of responsibility or blame, but why was Copps not more vocal? He was supposed to be overally responsible and the quality of Schofield’s performance had to be central to the Football Operation. Copps has been naive at best, but in talking optimistically about the summer transfer window and Schofield strengthening the playing strength he more or less unconditionally backed his protégée. In coming out with this at a time when there was deep unrest he should have recognised the need to justify his continuing belief in Schofield’s ability. It was a test of his character and, frankly his suitability for his own role. And he ducked it.

So I cannot really accept that Copps did his job well at all. He might have provided more substantial and vocal support to Schofield, or alternatively spelt out his sympathy for the fans and an acceptance that the pressure was on him and Schofield to get more out of the players and win back the belief that was draining away as defeat followed defeat. Schofield did not have it in him to convince us that he really knew what we were all feeling, but Copps should have recognised it.

You can blame Blunt for not pointing this out to Copps, but Copps should have seen it for himself.

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #39 on May 11, 2023, 10:32:18 am by Colemans Left Hook »
I think there's outside investment and a new face on the board incoming.

I have written a script where McCann comes in - which gives that deceased Egyptian X-Hull's son confidence to take a 49% stake in the club --      as he knows McCann will be superglued into the managers seat.

AND he trusts him with his money .  The team plays a Pyramid formation of course

Doncaster Rovers Tigers .... here we come

below you can see at least he (the deceased X - Hull owner) sang from the same bit of the hymn sheet as "Terry Bramall"


"Philanthropy

In 2016 he donated £7 million towards the cost of a £25 million medical building at the University of Hull.[33] In November 2019, he donated around £8 million to Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust for the creation of a diabetes treatment and research centre based at Hull Royal Infirmary and Castle Hill Hospital.[34] He was also a donor to the Labour Party.[35] "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assem_Allam

TonySoprano

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #40 on May 11, 2023, 10:45:41 am by TonySoprano »
I think there's outside investment and a new face on the board incoming.

I have written a script where McCann comes in - which gives that deceased Egyptian X-Hull's son confidence to take a 49% stake in the club --      as he knows McCann will be superglued into the managers seat.

AND he trusts him with his money .  The team plays a Pyramid formation of course

Doncaster Rovers Tigers .... here we come

below you can see at least he (the deceased X - Hull owner) sang from the same bit of the hymn sheet as "Terry Bramall"


"Philanthropy

In 2016 he donated £7 million towards the cost of a £25 million medical building at the University of Hull.[33] In November 2019, he donated around £8 million to Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust for the creation of a diabetes treatment and research centre based at Hull Royal Infirmary and Castle Hill Hospital.[34] He was also a donor to the Labour Party.[35] "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assem_Allam
I'd stay off the ayahuasca for a bit mate

Campsall rover

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #41 on May 11, 2023, 10:52:29 am by Campsall rover »
I suppose that somehow Blunt has never seemed much more than a nominal chairman, a man put in the job by a benefactor who has neither the time nor the inclination to fulfil the role himself.

TB obviously trusts Blunt with his money and the appointment of Copps to his role was a way of devolving the management of the football to him.

I am not saying Blunt is innocent of responsibility or blame, but why was Copps not more vocal? He was supposed to be overally responsible and the quality of Schofield’s performance had to be central to the Football Operation. Copps has been naive at best, but in talking optimistically about the summer transfer window and Schofield strengthening the playing strength he more or less unconditionally backed his protégée. In coming out with this at a time when there was deep unrest he should have recognised the need to justify his continuing belief in Schofield’s ability. It was a test of his character and, frankly his suitability for his own role. And he ducked it.

So I cannot really accept that Copps did his job well at all. He might have provided more substantial and vocal support to Schofield, or alternatively spelt out his sympathy for the fans and an acceptance that the pressure was on him and Schofield to get more out of the players and win back the belief that was draining away as defeat followed defeat. Schofield did not have it in him to convince us that he really knew what we were all feeling, but Copps should have recognised it.

You can blame Blunt for not pointing this out to Copps, but Copps should have seen it for himself.
Have to agree with all that.
As HoF Copps should have made a statement ref DS’s departure. His silence says an awful lot imo.
It looks to me as if he has either resigned or made his feelings known to Blunt that he wanted to keep DS

Whatever has happened I think Copps’s position is now defunct or at least he himself fulfilling that role.
He was in hindsight not qualified for this job.

Watch this space.  Some developments in the offing on this one that’s for certain.

Colemans Left Hook

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #42 on May 11, 2023, 11:09:26 am by Colemans Left Hook »
I think there's outside investment and a new face on the board incoming.

I have written a script where McCann comes in - which gives that deceased Egyptian X-Hull's son confidence to take a 49% stake in the club --      as he knows McCann will be superglued into the managers seat.

AND he trusts him with his money .  The team plays a Pyramid formation of course

Doncaster Rovers Tigers .... here we come

below you can see at least he (the deceased X - Hull owner) sang from the same bit of the hymn sheet as "Terry Bramall"


"Philanthropy

In 2016 he donated £7 million towards the cost of a £25 million medical building at the University of Hull.[33] In November 2019, he donated around £8 million to Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust for the creation of a diabetes treatment and research centre based at Hull Royal Infirmary and Castle Hill Hospital.[34] He was also a donor to the Labour Party.[35] "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assem_Allam
I'd stay off the ayahuasca for a bit mate

 I have just re-written my script as I got it ar$e about face

The Egyptians son wants to buy into the club on the condition that McCann becomes manager --- now that makes a lot more sense  --

we will see


silent majority

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #43 on May 11, 2023, 11:14:35 am by silent majority »
I think there's outside investment and a new face on the board incoming.

I have written a script where McCann comes in - which gives that deceased Egyptian X-Hull's son confidence to take a 49% stake in the club --      as he knows McCann will be superglued into the managers seat.

AND he trusts him with his money .  The team plays a Pyramid formation of course

Doncaster Rovers Tigers .... here we come

below you can see at least he (the deceased X - Hull owner) sang from the same bit of the hymn sheet as "Terry Bramall"


"Philanthropy

In 2016 he donated £7 million towards the cost of a £25 million medical building at the University of Hull.[33] In November 2019, he donated around £8 million to Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust for the creation of a diabetes treatment and research centre based at Hull Royal Infirmary and Castle Hill Hospital.[34] He was also a donor to the Labour Party.[35] "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assem_Allam
I'd stay off the ayahuasca for a bit mate

 I have just re-written my script as I got it ar$e about face

The Egyptians son wants to buy into the club on the condition that McCann becomes manager --- now that makes a lot more sense  --

we will see



Sorry to pour cold water on your theorising but that's just plain crackers.

Colemans Left Hook

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #44 on May 11, 2023, 12:07:08 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
Have been told this by someone who actually worked for him at Hull till the club was sold. He wants to stay in football and is making  movements to broker a deal for DRFC.

Be interesting if it does go ahead. He has a bit of spare cash knocking about.  I am not even sure if the club is technically for sale?

I knew I had seen a post could say " Rumour Mill"   on here - so it might have had a bit of mileage (or inches) in it .

So the theory ain't that "daffte"

silent majority

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #45 on May 11, 2023, 12:41:19 pm by silent majority »
Have been told this by someone who actually worked for him at Hull till the club was sold. He wants to stay in football and is making  movements to broker a deal for DRFC.

Be interesting if it does go ahead. He has a bit of spare cash knocking about.  I am not even sure if the club is technically for sale?

I knew I had seen a post could say " Rumour Mill"   on here - so it might have had a bit of mileage (or inches) in it .

So the theory ain't that "daffte"

Yet again, this is factually incorrect and I can assure you that no approach, of any kind, has come from these people or anybody connected with them.


TonySoprano

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #46 on May 11, 2023, 12:52:39 pm by TonySoprano »
Have been told this by someone who actually worked for him at Hull till the club was sold. He wants to stay in football and is making  movements to broker a deal for DRFC.

Be interesting if it does go ahead. He has a bit of spare cash knocking about.  I am not even sure if the club is technically for sale?

I knew I had seen a post could say " Rumour Mill"   on here - so it might have had a bit of mileage (or inches) in it .

So the theory ain't that "daffte"

Yet again, this is factually incorrect and I can assure you that no approach, of any kind, has come from these people or anybody connected with them.
That's fair enough, how about anyone else though ?

Drover

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Re: Blunt and the jigsaw
« Reply #47 on May 11, 2023, 01:47:35 pm by Drover »
I think there's outside investment and a new face on the board incoming.

I have written a script where McCann comes in - which gives that deceased Egyptian X-Hull's son confidence to take a 49% stake in the club --      as he knows McCann will be superglued into the managers seat.

AND he trusts him with his money .  The team plays a Pyramid formation of course

Doncaster Rovers Tigers .... here we come

below you can see at least he (the deceased X - Hull owner) sang from the same bit of the hymn sheet as "Terry Bramall"


"Philanthropy

In 2016 he donated £7 million towards the cost of a £25 million medical building at the University of Hull.[33] In November 2019, he donated around £8 million to Hull University Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust for the creation of a diabetes treatment and research centre based at Hull Royal Infirmary and Castle Hill Hospital.[34] He was also a donor to the Labour Party.[35] "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assem_Allam
I'd stay off the ayahuasca for a bit mate

 I have just re-written my script as I got it ar$e about face

The Egyptians son wants to buy into the club on the condition that McCann becomes manager --- now that makes a lot more sense  --

we will see



Sorry to pour cold water on your theorising but that's just plain crackers.


Plain crackers,not oriental crackers then  :silly:

 

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