What's Happened....

[Goole Rover]

Being a fan for nearly sixty years I’ve been through some depressing times regarding Doncaster Rovers but never such a prolonged one as lately. There are so many negatives that have surfaced at the same time. I compare it to one of those DIY projects when everything goes wrong, your work area is a mess and untidy your logic fails you need to stop tidy up and start again. I wouldn’t know where to start with the present set up.

[EpsTheMightyReds]

I don’t think it’s any worse than in the 70’s and 80’s. The difference now is that it’s a lot easier to spread the doom and gloom. Back in the day we used to travel home and away, sometimes leaving the Mainline at 2am, travelling down to Plymouth and stopping over for the Saturday night out. My memory of those times was that the football was pretty horrific and my expectations were low, but the weekends were bloody good. Every now and then, one of our group would get disillusioned and stop coming - but that was it, it didn’t spread any further, no one else new or cared. Nowadays everyone pours there inner thoughts, conspiracy theories etc onto social media. Unfortunately, many people are influenced by what they read.
My life’s changed over the years, I can no longer go on the weekends away, but my expectations haven’t. I support a lower division club with a moderate fan base in an average northern town. A decent cup run every now and then and flirting with promotion would be nice but I hope rather than expect it. As for the owners, I appreciate everything they do because I know that if I was successful and rich, owning a football club would be bottom of my list.

[TonySoprano]

"Support the team not the regime, is how most (not on here ) see it."

Most, as in Donald Trump's everybody statements, meaning a handful or a figment of imagination??

Juvenile bratty Netto FC b*llocks. Without the regime we wouldn't have a fecking club. And then there's the glaringly obvious lack of a strategy from those wanting the owners out. A bunch of social media wannabes.

I take it your not on social media ?
It's a much much larger representation of the fan base than on here.

I see you’ve reappeared under this used name and not one of your aliases, so you’ve now had 5 days think about it from another thread, who is going to buy/invest in Doncaster Rovers ?

Eh ?
How can anyone really know that until the clubs been put up for sale and the first bids come in ?

I sold a house last year, but until I put it up for sale, I had no idea who was going to buy it, but luckily that didn't put me off advertising it for sale !

If you can't grasp that, then there's no point in furthering this conversation with you.

[Thorney]

...to our fighting spirit?

If this forum is a true reflection of our fan base then it's a really sad state of affairs. Topic after topic, post after post of doom and gloom with many sometimes baseless allegations and accusations against the board, owners, manager, players and other fans of the club. It really is a depressing place to be!

I get that this season has been a huge disappointment after all the optimism at the start of the season, but surely we support the team through thick and thin? What's happened to 'Rovers till I Die'? Don't the team need our fans now more than ever?

At the beginning of the season virtually everyone on this forum was happy with the squad, manager and the owners. As I recall, nobody was calling anyone out and there was a confidence that at least a play off place was a probability. Now, when I come on here there's a 'told you so' attitude from a few posters that were absent at the start of the season.

I realise that this topic is going to open me up to all sorts of abuse...about being happy to support mediocrity, being gullible etc...etc.. well quite honestly I don't give shit. I'll still to be going to as many games as I can get too, I'll still be supporting the team and manager and if we win it'll make my weekend and if we lose I'll be pissed off vowing to never waste my time again. Just I have done for the past 40 years.

Rovers till I die

Let the abuse commence 

Support the team not the regime, is how most (not on here ) see it.

The saying makes no sense!
How are they supporting the team whilst also chanting we are shit and even worse your not fit to wear the shirt at the players?? Its hardly supporting them.

[ravenrover]

"Support the team not the regime, is how most (not on here ) see it."

Most, as in Donald Trump's everybody statements, meaning a handful or a figment of imagination??

Juvenile bratty Netto FC b*llocks. Without the regime we wouldn't have a fecking club. And then there's the glaringly obvious lack of a strategy from those wanting the owners out. A bunch of social media wannabes.

I take it your not on social media ?
It's a much much larger representation of the fan base than on here.

I see you’ve reappeared under this used name and not one of your aliases, so you’ve now had 5 days think about it from another thread, who is going to buy/invest in Doncaster Rovers ?

Eh ?
How can anyone really know that until the clubs been put up for sale and the first bids come in ?

I sold a house last year, but until I put it up for sale, I had no idea who was going to buy it, but luckily that didn't put me off advertising it for sale !

If you can't grasp that, then there's no point in furthering this conversation with you.

You either don't listen or can't understand, which is it?

[Not Now Kato]

"Support the team not the regime, is how most (not on here ) see it."

Most, as in Donald Trump's everybody statements, meaning a handful or a figment of imagination??

Juvenile bratty Netto FC b*llocks. Without the regime we wouldn't have a fecking club. And then there's the glaringly obvious lack of a strategy from those wanting the owners out. A bunch of social media wannabes.

I take it your not on social media ?
It's a much much larger representation of the fan base than on here.

I see you’ve reappeared under this used name and not one of your aliases, so you’ve now had 5 days think about it from another thread, who is going to buy/invest in Doncaster Rovers ?

Eh ?
How can anyone really know that until the clubs been put up for sale and the first bids come in ?

I sold a house last year, but until I put it up for sale, I had no idea who was going to buy it, but luckily that didn't put me off advertising it for sale !

If you can't grasp that, then there's no point in furthering this conversation with you.

Genuine question, do you have difficulty understanding the written and spoke word? It has been said on here, and at MTO meetings, that the club IS for sale!
 
Oh, and I've lost count of the number of fliers I've received over the years with words like "we are looking for houses in your area", you don't always need a sign in your front garden.

[Goole Rover]

I don’t think it’s any worse than in the 70’s and 80’s. The difference now is that it’s a lot easier to spread the doom and gloom. Back in the day we used to travel home and away, sometimes leaving the Mainline at 2am, travelling down to Plymouth and stopping over for the Saturday night out. My memory of those times was that the football was pretty horrific and my expectations were low, but the weekends were bloody good. Every now and then, one of our group would get disillusioned and stop coming - but that was it, it didn’t spread any further, no one else new or cared. Nowadays everyone pours there inner thoughts, conspiracy theories etc onto social media. Unfortunately, many people are influenced by what they read.
My life’s changed over the years, I can no longer go on the weekends away, but my expectations haven’t. I support a lower division club with a moderate fan base in an average northern town. A decent cup run every now and then and flirting with promotion would be nice but I hope rather than expect it. As for the owners, I appreciate everything they do because I know that if I was successful and rich, owning a football club would be bottom of my list.

Eps
Didn’t we have a promotion in the eighties, a great league cup run in seventies, the beating of QPR not to mention the great football under Stan Anderson. Have we a player who could compare with Peacock, Miller, Snodins, Elwiss, Lister, Kitchin, Little, Warboys, Curran the list is endless. I can’t remember a decent game in the last three years that could compare with many in the period you quote.

[Colin C No.3]

Likening the sale of a house to a football club is like comparing the sale of a car to your house, (Confucius say).

[Michael Shaw]

Herbert, you are officially my favourite poster on this site. Spot On. Good man!

[Barmby Rover]

I guess we have to accept that Rovers are a naff club that will always be fighting off relegation out of the football league. " I know my place", to quote Ronnie Corbett from a long, long time ago. When Rovers came back into the league there was drive and ambition, now there is none, and if you want it you are a fool

That is why so many are questioning the renewal of STs, they are not to be taken for fools.

[Not Now Kato]

I guess we have to accept that Rovers are a naff club that will always be fighting off relegation out of the football league. " I know my place", to quote Ronnie Corbett from a long, long time ago. When Rovers came back into the league there was drive and ambition, now there is none, and if you want it you are a fool

That is why so many are questioning the renewal of STs, they are not to be taken for fools.

But then it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy!

[Pancho Regan]

It's heartening to read your post Herbert and even more so to see the number of likes it has received.

I've been overwhelmed by the negativity on here recently so I've backed off trying to speak up for a more positive response from the 'supporters'.

Good on you mate.

[DMnumber4]

23/24 – McCann – currently 22nd in League 2
22/23 – McSheffrey / Schofield – 18th in League 2
21/22 – Wellens / McSheffrey – 22nd in League 1 (relegated)
20/21 – Moore / Butler – 14th in League 1 (behind closed doors)
19/20 – Moore – 9th in League 1 (decided on PPG after Covid-impact)

The last two games we saw before Covid was a home win v Wycombe and away win v MKDons. Season before was play-offs v Charlton.

Point being, from February 2021 we have been awful. Not just ‘not great’ but truly terrible. Three full years of absolute rubbish. Added to that the last time we saw our team playing well in person was March 2020, it feels like a long long time that as fans we’ve not had anything to be positive about.

There’s bound to be some reaction to that, some quiet apathy and fans disappearing, some internal struggling, and some fans voicing their concerns. That’s just where we are at the moment. It’s been a hard slog being a Donny fan for the last few years, and yes it’s been worse in the past – but that shouldn’t be a reason now not to expect and hope for much much more that we’re getting!

I also don't think the turnover of players helps - there's been over 100 who've played in that time. Other than Anderson and Rowe, who can fans relate to as having some sort of two-way loyalty?

Thankfully Bailey and Ironside have taken up the mantle of 'definite starters' but it's a bit of a guessing game as to the other 9!

[PDX_Rover]

"Support the team not the regime, is how most (not on here ) see it."

Most, as in Donald Trump's everybody statements, meaning a handful or a figment of imagination??

Juvenile bratty Netto FC b*llocks. Without the regime we wouldn't have a fecking club. And then there's the glaringly obvious lack of a strategy from those wanting the owners out. A bunch of social media wannabes.

I take it your not on social media ?
It's a much much larger representation of the fan base than on here.

You're*

You mean more kids have access and can stamp their feet? Netto FC is a joke. Nothing better to do with their time and no substance for solving the perceived problems... I suspect it's fans who only have experienced success....

And yes, I am active on social.

[TonySoprano]

"Support the team not the regime, is how most (not on here ) see it."

Most, as in Donald Trump's everybody statements, meaning a handful or a figment of imagination??

Juvenile bratty Netto FC b*llocks. Without the regime we wouldn't have a fecking club. And then there's the glaringly obvious lack of a strategy from those wanting the owners out. A bunch of social media wannabes.

I take it your not on social media ?
It's a much much larger representation of the fan base than on here.

You're*

You mean more kids have access and can stamp their feet? Netto FC is a joke. Nothing better to do with their time and no substance for solving the perceived problems... I suspect it's fans who only have experienced success....

And yes, I am active on social.

Ooooh, grammar police!
Irony is, reading your last post, you don't understand plural.

[PDX_Rover]

Irony? Oh my Ghosh…

[DearneValleyRover]

Irony? Oh my Ghosh…

Now there’s a name behind a mask

[Sammy Chung was King]

If Terry was thinking of selling the club, the right time wouldn’t be now, when we are on the edge of a relegation battle. If we come through this and stay up, for me we either need some new investors or he needs to put the club up for sale in pre season. He doesn’t intend putting the funds that would be needed to get us back up the leagues, going by what has happened so far.

He is covering losses, maintaining the stadium etc, he doesn’t seem to think it economically viable to go after top players, that would get us out of this league. I understand him wanting to keep things financially under control but we need money putting in to get quality on the pitch. That is why it is imperative that we get a new start or new investment in the summer. We can’t keep writing seasons off.

[DearneValleyRover]

A squad of 35 says different that coupled with a ban on paying fees this window. Let’s hope we are good enough to stay up and see if McCann is ruthless with the squad and then see who he brings in to judge on investment

[i_ateallthepies]

A squad of 35 says different that coupled with a ban on paying fees this window. Let’s hope we are good enough to stay up and see if McCann is ruthless with the squad and then see who he brings in to judge on investment

We've had all the spin repeatedly over recent years on the adequacy/excellence of budgets but what will tell all is 100% what you have said there.

[GazLaz]

No abuse from me HA. That's pretty much how I see it.

HA and SM, why do you think we are flirting with relegation in League 2 and where do you think the decline will stop?

[knockers]

There were plenty of people last year saying that the Eco Power guys were going make a bid to run the club.
That’s all gone quiet!

[Chris Black come back]

Largely I expect as (a) it was fantasy and (b) they don’t have the money and (c) feels unlikely that they fill any of the criteria Terry has set for offloading the club.

[GazLaz]

There were plenty of people last year saying that the Eco Power guys were going make a bid to run the club.
That’s all gone quiet!

No thanks.

[Herbert Anchovy]

No abuse from me HA. That's pretty much how I see it.

HA and SM, why do you think we are flirting with relegation in League 2 and where do you think the decline will stop?

I’m a welder fella, not a football manager so can only guess. Maybe a combination of an injury crisis, some players in poor form/not good enough, bad luck, lack of a settled side? As for when it’ll stop, I’ve no idea it maybe once GM can select his best 11 on a regular basis?

[Alickismyhero]

I am addicted to watching Donny and have been since the age of 5 and now I am 73.

Will my support change? not one bit. Have I supported Donny through worse times? yes.

I support the manager, the team and Terry Bramall.

I get to watch Donny every game and its heart breaking to watch the poor performances but its only a game.

 I know Bill Shankly wouldn't agree with that.

What will be will be and whatever happens I will be back next season

[Upton Rover]

...to our fighting spirit?

If this forum is a true reflection of our fan base then it's a really sad state of affairs. Topic after topic, post after post of doom and gloom with many sometimes baseless allegations and accusations against the board, owners, manager, players and other fans of the club. It really is a depressing place to be!

I get that this season has been a huge disappointment after all the optimism at the start of the season, but surely we support the team through thick and thin? What's happened to 'Rovers till I Die'? Don't the team need our fans now more than ever?

At the beginning of the season virtually everyone on this forum was happy with the squad, manager and the owners. As I recall, nobody was calling anyone out and there was a confidence that at least a play off place was a probability. Now, when I come on here there's a 'told you so' attitude from a few posters that were absent at the start of the season.

I realise that this topic is going to open me up to all sorts of abuse...about being happy to support mediocrity, being gullible etc...etc.. well quite honestly I don't give shit. I'll still to be going to as many games as I can get too, I'll still be supporting the team and manager and if we win it'll make my weekend and if we lose I'll be pissed off vowing to never waste my time again. Just I have done for the past 40 years.

Rovers till I die

Let the abuse commence 

You have a right to your opinions just like any other football and sports fan, everyone especially the paying ones have a right to show discontent just as the same they show their enthusiasm, win lose or draw. Every English club as gone through turmoil at sometime in their existence and it will continue, just look a few miles away at Sheffield Wednesday, I have a good friend who’s supported them, and until now as never showed any emotions or negativity, but he’s going to be there tonight to give his voice for the owner to be kicked out, good on him. Rovers have been shocking for the past 3 seasons and everyone has a right to show their displeasure in anyway they seem fit, regardless of Rovers Till I Die, that’s nothing to do with it.

[silent majority]

No abuse from me HA. That's pretty much how I see it.

HA and SM, why do you think we are flirting with relegation in League 2 and where do you think the decline will stop?

This topic wasn't really about that, more about how we feel about it as individuals.

But, my response might sound flippant, but its not really. In answer to your questions;

Crap football is the answer. And the sooner we stop doing that the sooner it will end.

[Pancho Regan]

No abuse from me HA. That's pretty much how I see it.

HA and SM, why do you think we are flirting with relegation in League 2 and where do you think the decline will stop?

This topic wasn't really about that, more about how we feel about it as individuals.

But, my response might sound flippant, but its not really. In answer to your questions;

Crap football is the answer. And the sooner we stop doing that the sooner it will end.

Well said SM.

As you say, I believe HA’s thread wasn’t about applying a data-based analysis or a forensic audit of our current situation.

It was a call to arms, a plea for us supporters to put aside negative criticism of our situation and to get behind our team, our club.

It’s a plea based on emotion, faith and belief. It’s what support should be about.

I’m in.