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Avsuptem

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #30 on February 15, 2024, 12:19:42 pm by Avsuptem »
A Lino has to have one eye on the ball as it is kicked, and the other eye on players being potentially offside. It is often physically impossible for a normal human being to do that.

Maybe someone like Marty Feldman would be more physically capable.
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When being trained as a referee you are taught to look for the offside and listen to hear when the ball is kicked.



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Alan Southstand

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #31 on February 15, 2024, 02:35:01 pm by Alan Southstand »
For me, it’s still onside. If you were being really picky, you’d say he was level with2 other defenders at the time of the cross, but level is onside!

When he actually shoots and scores, there’s 2 players on the goal line!

ravenrover

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #32 on February 15, 2024, 02:58:43 pm by ravenrover »
But it's when the ball was played in that matters

VivaRovers

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #33 on February 15, 2024, 04:18:43 pm by VivaRovers »
A Lino has to have one eye on the ball as it is kicked, and the other eye on players being potentially offside. It is often physically impossible for a normal human being to do that.

Agreed, however when officials are mic'd up they help each other out; so the other assistant referee will communicate when the ball is played forward so the assistant ref at the end where play is only has to look along the line.

I didn't realise this til the last couple of seasons watching games with mic'd up officials in the Welsh leagues (where they're rarely drowned out by crowd noise) and being able to hear the assistant stood in front of me going "Now.... now... now" whilst play was down the other end.

Obviously they can't do that in goalmouth scrambles or tight play, but its a neat work around of the issue BB highlights, and explains why officials calling offside at this level are much much more often right than wrong.

GazLaz

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #34 on February 15, 2024, 08:37:53 pm by GazLaz »
Inside Eovers vid now out which gives a better angle.

https://youtu.be/Ri53Lw6TcTU?si=BhuLFhL5Cpuzl2dR

If you listen for the cross being kicked, then freeze it as soon as Wood comes into shot, he looks goalside of the defender as he holds him off, so probs offside by 1/2 yard.

As a rule, the linesmen usually get these calls right. There was one late on Saturday, where they gave Ironside offside when he was clearly a yard and a half onside. I thought so. Our kid thought so. People around us thought so. Bloke on the way out said it was the worst decision he'd seen all season.

Except...when I went and looked at the iFollow video, he WAS actually offside.

As DBR says, it does look like the linesman got it right last night.

Top level linesmen are ridiculously good these days.

There are no ‘top level linesmen’ at this level neither are there any top level referees.

So unless you’re being sarcastic I assume you’re talking about ‘some’ linesmen (women), at European & World competition level?

Assume what you want. You usually do.

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #35 on February 15, 2024, 11:21:27 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
For me, it’s still onside. If you were being really picky, you’d say he was level with2 other defenders at the time of the cross, but level is onside!

When he actually shoots and scores, there’s 2 players on the goal line!

Alan, there is no absolute evidence Wood is onside, or level as you say which would be onside.

The only evidence we have is Wood being goalside of the defender when he first comes into vision after the ball is kicked.

We can only assume therefore, the linesman has a better view, them either of the camera angles we've seen, and has made his judgement. Neither you, nor I have any evidence to say he's wrong.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #36 on February 16, 2024, 08:18:22 pm by Alan Southstand »
No problem with that at all, DBR, and it will not change anything. But, how the hell can we have confidence in any officials when we’ve witnessed some of the jokers this season!

drfchound

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #37 on February 16, 2024, 11:31:09 pm by drfchound »
Judging by the reaction of fans in our south end of the west stand, the linesmen in front of them don’t always get the offsides right.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Wood’s goal
« Reply #38 on February 17, 2024, 12:35:22 am by Bentley Bullet »
The way I look at it is thus, the Lino should be considered for promotion because he saw an infringement (offside) that NO ONE ELSE on the pitch saw, not even the defending players!

 

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