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Bentley Bullet

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #240 on August 07, 2023, 07:33:52 pm by Bentley Bullet »
And in the case being discussed advantage was gained in that a shot on target was had.  A powder puff shot admittedly but a shot nonetheless.

......."and penalizes the infringement or offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue at that time or within a few seconds.”




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i_ateallthepies

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #241 on August 07, 2023, 08:21:28 pm by i_ateallthepies »
And what is the anticipated advantage?

Bentley Bullet

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« Reply #242 on August 07, 2023, 08:32:29 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I imagine the anticipated advantage (when in the penalty area) is given in anticipation of the team scoring, instead of giving a penalty. As I understand it, if the team fails to score, a resultant penalty is then given.

i_ateallthepies

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #243 on August 08, 2023, 08:07:21 am by i_ateallthepies »
And I imaging that the anticipated advantage is an attempt on goal, which is what happened.

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #244 on August 08, 2023, 08:22:26 am by Bentley Bullet »
You might be right. I just interpreted the rule differently.

ncRover

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #245 on August 08, 2023, 09:32:06 am by ncRover »
Sterrie is better than knoyle
I don’t know what form suggests Anderson is better than wood, Anderson hasn’t shown any form for 3 years,
Bailey and Broadbent are definitely good additions to the squad last year we had close and biggins and nobody else, Bailey looks an excellent signing to me.
Ironside will be good, he was very poor yesterday but against Wednesday and York he looked like just what we need

Sterry being better than Knoyle is a big call. He’s absolutely not based on previous performances anyway.

I would guess that the positional sense of a full back is hard to represent in statistics?

NickDRFC

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #246 on August 08, 2023, 10:00:09 pm by NickDRFC »
Ian Lawlor was great, Joe Ironside terrible (obviously early days but he was a massive disappointment for me - had very high expectations but he looked like he’d been pulled out of the crowd to play). Full backs looked solid but questionable distribution, nothing in midfield to allow us to take any control (although Bailey looks a good player). Thought Roberts and Sotona had a really positive impact, possibly as it was against tiring legs but both look confident and direct. Taylor worked hard and did a couple of good things but that miss was appalling for a professional footballer.

I must have been about the only one in the South stand who thought it was a penalty, unnecessary challenge as well given he’d been forced wide. Looked as though Olowu went clean through the man and didn’t win the ball. Also thought there was no way the Roberts shout was a penalty.

Joe Ironside wasn’t terrible. He struggled at times but he wasn’t terrible. You noticed the difference when he went off and Miller came on through the middle. No comparison. Ironside starts through middle every time.

Didn’t do too badly without him starting tonight. Still no comparison?

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #247 on August 08, 2023, 10:06:07 pm by RoverinLincs »
Ian Lawlor was great, Joe Ironside terrible (obviously early days but he was a massive disappointment for me - had very high expectations but he looked like he’d been pulled out of the crowd to play). Full backs looked solid but questionable distribution, nothing in midfield to allow us to take any control (although Bailey looks a good player). Thought Roberts and Sotona had a really positive impact, possibly as it was against tiring legs but both look confident and direct. Taylor worked hard and did a couple of good things but that miss was appalling for a professional footballer.

I must have been about the only one in the South stand who thought it was a penalty, unnecessary challenge as well given he’d been forced wide. Looked as though Olowu went clean through the man and didn’t win the ball. Also thought there was no way the Roberts shout was a penalty.

Joe Ironside wasn’t terrible. He struggled at times but he wasn’t terrible. You noticed the difference when he went off and Miller came on through the middle. No comparison. Ironside starts through middle every time.

Didn’t do too badly without him starting tonight. Still no comparison?

Frontline looked miles better tonight

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #248 on August 08, 2023, 10:07:07 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Agreed Filo, and the ref had the option to bring play back to the foul on Rowe after Taylor failed to score.
It was only a second or two after the foul on Rowe.
why bring the play back if he played advantage then Taylor should of scored you can’t then bring play back cos he missed

Yes he can, try to let play go on but if no advantage has been gained then go back to the penalty decision.

Ref played advantage; Advantage was gained in the opportunity to get a shot on goal;  End of advantage.  Absolutely no justification for the Ref to bring play back, indeed he would probably have been wrong to do so.

I agree with that, once he's played advantage. But playing advantage there was a poor decision.

Disagree, if he gives the pen and we score we'd all be fuming.  It was clearly a chance, I just don't know if the advantage is over straight away. Outside the box advantage is played for ages then pulled back so why not there?

I didn't see the referee gesture for advantage played so we seem to be discussing nothing? The ref didn't deem it a foul and Taylor tried to pick his spot and it was saved on the line. If that had gone in bottom corner we would have been praising his calmness. Fine margins.

If the ref didn't deem that a foul, then he should never referee a game ever again. The keeper wiped Tommy completely out.

If a stonewall penalty is denied in order to play advantage, the only possible advantage would be a goal. A goal wasn't scored. The delayed penalty should have been given.

Absolutely atrocious refereeing. Worse than the two other penalty decisions.

I totally agree mate, it was a pen.

What I'm saying is people are debating how long an advantage can be played but the ref didn't gesture for advantage being played so as far as I can tell just didn't deem it a foul.
Problem there is he did indicate he had played advantage after we failed to score

Ah, I didn't spot that

ncRover

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #249 on February 01, 2024, 10:05:17 pm by ncRover »
Exactly tyke
We just seem to have fans on here and elsewhere who just love to be negative.
We’ve played one game against a good side, billy saying they’ll struggle to stay up is nonsense, they will finish top 10 this season.
As will we

Can we make this one a sticky?

Harrogate currently 8th.

dickos1

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #250 on February 01, 2024, 11:31:27 pm by dickos1 »
Not a bad prediction that one.
Where is Chris black with his weekly update

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #251 on February 01, 2024, 11:36:28 pm by GazLaz »
Harrogate have been good in the last 8 games but they have had the easiest run of fixtures in that time. Top 10 will be a push still.

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« Reply #252 on February 02, 2024, 06:48:55 am by dickos1 »
Last 9 games they’ve only lost 1 and that includes beating notts county and drawing with Wrexham. Just shows what can be done with a small budget

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #253 on February 02, 2024, 07:37:14 am by NickDRFC »
Quote from: dickos1 link=topic=288530.msg1287770#msg1287770 date=1706830287
Not a bad prediction that one.
Where is Chris black with his weekly update

“They will finish top 10 this season.
As will we”

You’re only half right as it stands! Still plenty of time for it to turn around…



and Rovers to finish top 10  :lol:

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #254 on February 02, 2024, 07:55:23 am by DonnyOsmond »
Where abouts in the top 10 will we finish dickos?

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #255 on February 02, 2024, 09:02:15 am by dickos1 »
10th

pib

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« Reply #256 on February 02, 2024, 11:01:43 am by pib »
We won't finish in the top 10 obviously, but it wasn't a bad shout on Harrogate. It's fair to say they've exceeded expectations this season whether they actually finish up in the top 10 or not. To be there at this stage isn't bad going, so fair play to them.

I notice they've just lost the right back Kayne Ramsey to Charlton on deadline day. He stood out for them against us, let's see if it affects their season.

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #257 on February 02, 2024, 11:05:00 am by Chris Black come back »
Currently a 14 point gap between Rovers (22nd) and Gillingham (10th).

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #258 on February 02, 2024, 12:45:31 pm by Petche »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #259 on February 02, 2024, 01:33:36 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Exactly tyke
We just seem to have fans on here and elsewhere who just love to be negative.
We’ve played one game against a good side, billy saying they’ll struggle to stay up is nonsense, they will finish top 10 this season.
As will we

Can we make this one a sticky?

Harrogate currently 8th.

Yep, they've done much better than I expected. If they finish in the top 10, then fair play to Dickos, and I'll hold my hand up.

pib

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #260 on February 12, 2024, 12:50:54 pm by pib »
Harrogate watch: now 7th after beating Colchester on Saturday.

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #261 on February 12, 2024, 03:33:08 pm by Barmby Rover »
I will be pleased if we avoid a place in the bottom two, that threat is not over because of one win.

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #262 on February 13, 2024, 08:38:17 pm by Chris Black come back »
Harrogate watch: now 7th after beating Colchester on Saturday.

Harrogate watch: currently getting absolutely obliterated 5-0 at half time by Mansfield Town.

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #263 on February 13, 2024, 08:41:48 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
Around 15th is the best we can hope for, from here, I would say.

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« Reply #264 on February 13, 2024, 09:44:29 pm by Chris Black come back »
Harrogate watch: now 7th after beating Colchester on Saturday.

Harrogate watch: currently getting absolutely obliterated 5-0 at half time by Mansfield Town.

Ended 9-2.

dickos1

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Re: Well what do we think ?
« Reply #265 on February 13, 2024, 10:01:56 pm by dickos1 »
Still in the top ten

pib

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« Reply #266 on February 13, 2024, 10:19:17 pm by pib »
Harrogate watch: now 7th after beating Colchester on Saturday.

Harrogate watch: currently getting absolutely obliterated 5-0 at half time by Mansfield Town.

Ended 9-2.

Incredible scoreline. Not many would’ve predicted that I wouldn’t have thought.

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« Reply #267 on February 13, 2024, 10:21:47 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
Still in the top ten

With the squad we have, we should have been in the top five. Massively underachieved, I hope you’re right, Dickos.

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« Reply #268 on February 13, 2024, 10:22:49 pm by drfchound »
Harrogate watch: now 7th after beating Colchester on Saturday.

Harrogate watch: currently getting absolutely obliterated 5-0 at half time by Mansfield Town.

Ended 9-2.

Incredible scoreline. Not many would’ve predicted that I wouldn’t have thought.

There was still twenty odd minutes left when they got the ninth.
I bet they are gutted they didn't get to ten.

 

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