raoul moat stand off

[Sandy Lane]

I never thought this one would end well.  Seemed to me he knew what would happen once he shot the b/f, and since he didn't want to go back to jail was baiting the police with the threat of harm to the public. And perhaps he didn't have the courage to shoot himself so was looking for someone else to do it.  Sort of like a 'suicide by police' type scenario.  So at the end did he commit suicide or did the police do it for him?  May never know...

[Pintolager]

To pick up on your point about Moat asking for Psychiatric help, Newcastle Council have admitted this and say that there were talks between them and Moat, but help wasn't forthcoming because a Psychological report said that he didn't need any!!

WHO THE HELL WROTE THAT REPORT??

Whatever folks opinions of Moat, he knew that there was something wrong with him, but nothing was done to help him!

[bobjimwilly]

Pintolager wrote:

To pick up on your point about Moat asking for Psychiatric help, Newcastle Council have admitted this and say that there were talks between them and Moat, but help wasn't forthcoming because a Psychological report said that he didn't need any!!

WHO THE HELL WROTE THAT REPORT??

Whatever folks opinions of Moat, he knew that there was something wrong with him, but nothing was done to help him!

Hmmmmm it's still not right to blame anyone else but moat IMO.
Lessons may need to be learned but he got the gun, he was the one that commited murder, and he went on the run - no-one else.
 :S

[not on facebook]

i cant arguee that moat got what he deserved and more than likely northumbria is a better place without him.

think sandylane came up with that moat knew his future once he first fired his shot gun on ex girlfriend and her boyfriend.he was sending out signals that i guess he was expecting police
would shot him on the face of things.

what does worry me when moat gets burried there will be far too many off these people who are making moat wrongly to be a hero of sorts....for sure there will have to be a northumbria police presence,and this is where it WILL get messy.

i have said before that the police do have a hard job,but its their job they choose that profession and all that comes with it the good bad and ugly.

but from what i can gather today it looks to me that the police
in this moat case have made a rite pigs ear of things,and have
not done them sens good.