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Top of my head, we have seven players injured all of whom would probably be selected ahead of players in the team today.Get some perspective FFS!!!
You're right MrFrost, obviously O'Driscoll is shit, lets get rid of him.Get a grip FFS.
Seriously think some people on here need to get some perspective.
DonnyBazR0ver wrote:QuoteBalls.A lot of good things. A bit of soft defending, a deflection from a shot has done us.I asked SOD tongue in cheek on Wednesday if he could encourage the players shoot more often. He gave me such a dirty look !! I keep seeing it and I keep hearing it. If only so and so took a shot when he had the chance etc. They take a pop at goal and it goes in.we need to be more ruthless at both ends.Sounds like Killa had a good game. Shame Keegan didn't get on especially when Wilson got injured.Still plenty of time left to make a go of it.Wake up and smelly the coffee pal. Scoring isn't the problem.So what one of the goals was deflected? It makes no odds and your using it as an excuse.We are shit at the back. We desperately need a keeper who is commanding and who inspires confidence in the back four. I think it is plain to see there is unrest in the camp and morale is low. Something has to change and quick. Like I said, we only need to be looking in one direction.
Balls.A lot of good things. A bit of soft defending, a deflection from a shot has done us.I asked SOD tongue in cheek on Wednesday if he could encourage the players shoot more often. He gave me such a dirty look !! I keep seeing it and I keep hearing it. If only so and so took a shot when he had the chance etc. They take a pop at goal and it goes in.we need to be more ruthless at both ends.Sounds like Killa had a good game. Shame Keegan didn't get on especially when Wilson got injured.Still plenty of time left to make a go of it.
MrFrost wrote:QuoteDonnyBazR0ver wrote:QuoteBalls.A lot of good things. A bit of soft defending, a deflection from a shot has done us.I asked SOD tongue in cheek on Wednesday if he could encourage the players shoot more often. He gave me such a dirty look !! I keep seeing it and I keep hearing it. If only so and so took a shot when he had the chance etc. They take a pop at goal and it goes in.we need to be more ruthless at both ends.Sounds like Killa had a good game. Shame Keegan didn't get on especially when Wilson got injured.Still plenty of time left to make a go of it.Wake up and smelly the coffee pal. Scoring isn't the problem.So what one of the goals was deflected? It makes no odds and your using it as an excuse.We are shit at the back. We desperately need a keeper who is commanding and who inspires confidence in the back four. I think it is plain to see there is unrest in the camp and morale is low. Something has to change and quick. Like I said, we only need to be looking in one direction.I wouldn't say that it is plain to see unrest - based on what....???? Yet another totally over the top reaction - OK, we are going through a bad patch and are struggling without many of our first team squad, but I haven't seen any unrest - frustration perhaps, but no unrest. Stop stirring the pot man and calm down......
Metalmicky wrote:QuoteMrFrost wrote:QuoteDonnyBazR0ver wrote:QuoteBalls.A lot of good things. A bit of soft defending, a deflection from a shot has done us.I asked SOD tongue in cheek on Wednesday if he could encourage the players shoot more often. He gave me such a dirty look !! I keep seeing it and I keep hearing it. If only so and so took a shot when he had the chance etc. They take a pop at goal and it goes in.we need to be more ruthless at both ends.Sounds like Killa had a good game. Shame Keegan didn't get on especially when Wilson got injured.Still plenty of time left to make a go of it.Wake up and smelly the coffee pal. Scoring isn't the problem.So what one of the goals was deflected? It makes no odds and your using it as an excuse.We are shit at the back. We desperately need a keeper who is commanding and who inspires confidence in the back four. I think it is plain to see there is unrest in the camp and morale is low. Something has to change and quick. Like I said, we only need to be looking in one direction.I wouldn't say that it is plain to see unrest - based on what....???? Yet another totally over the top reaction - OK, we are going through a bad patch and are struggling without many of our first team squad, but I haven't seen any unrest - frustration perhaps, but no unrest. Stop stirring the pot man and calm down......I'll give Sullivan pushing one of his own players as an example.
i_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteTop of my head, we have seven players injured all of whom would probably be selected ahead of players in the team today.Get some perspective FFS!!!Who?Martis? Would he get in ahead of Lockwood? DoubtfulDumbuya? Would you play him in front of JOC? NoWoods? PossiblyStock? YesThomas? NoGillet? YesCan't think of who the other is, but there you have 2 maybe 3 who would have got into the team. Lets stop using injuries as an excuse and face facts.
MrFrost wrote:Quotei_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteTop of my head, we have seven players injured all of whom would probably be selected ahead of players in the team today.Get some perspective FFS!!!Who?Martis? Would he get in ahead of Lockwood? DoubtfulDumbuya? Would you play him in front of JOC? NoWoods? PossiblyStock? YesThomas? NoGillet? YesCan't think of who the other is, but there you have 2 maybe 3 who would have got into the team. Lets stop using injuries as an excuse and face facts.1. Martis? has been Sean's first choice2. Dumbuya? would be ahead of Chambo for many with the performances he put in3. Woods? definately4. Stock? obviously5. Thomas? favoured ahead of Locky before injury6. Gillet? you agree7. Joe Mills, would be first choice if not injured and loan extension sorted.Do you reckon we should be able to take that degree of weakening and still not be suffering?
Our best defence for me would be dumbo...killa......joc.....chambo, have we been the same without dumbo? We are looking relegation favourites at the moment, a bit of a scunny, decent going forward but gash at the back. We have got worse season on season in the championship, no more a footballing team, which is why we have managed to stay up and punch above our weight, we look every bit a league 1 club from top to bottom.
i_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteMrFrost wrote:Quotei_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteTop of my head, we have seven players injured all of whom would probably be selected ahead of players in the team today.Get some perspective FFS!!!Who?Martis? Would he get in ahead of Lockwood? DoubtfulDumbuya? Would you play him in front of JOC? NoWoods? PossiblyStock? YesThomas? NoGillet? YesCan't think of who the other is, but there you have 2 maybe 3 who would have got into the team. Lets stop using injuries as an excuse and face facts.1. Martis? has been Sean's first choice2. Dumbuya? would be ahead of Chambo for many with the performances he put in3. Woods? definately4. Stock? obviously5. Thomas? favoured ahead of Locky before injury6. Gillet? you agree7. Joe Mills, would be first choice if not injured and loan extension sorted.Do you reckon we should be able to take that degree of weakening and still not be suffering?So Martis and Thomas would have played? What about Killa? Dumbuya is a right back so you'd play him there and JOC at left back out of position? Woods definately with Stock, Oster, Coppinger and Gillet? Wouldn't work. Mills isn't here so he doesn't come into it.Look at it in reality, only 2 or 3 of the injured players would have made the starting line up today.
MrFrost wrote:Quotei_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteMrFrost wrote:Quotei_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteTop of my head, we have seven players injured all of whom would probably be selected ahead of players in the team today.Get some perspective FFS!!!Who?Martis? Would he get in ahead of Lockwood? DoubtfulDumbuya? Would you play him in front of JOC? NoWoods? PossiblyStock? YesThomas? NoGillet? YesCan't think of who the other is, but there you have 2 maybe 3 who would have got into the team. Lets stop using injuries as an excuse and face facts.1. Martis? has been Sean's first choice2. Dumbuya? would be ahead of Chambo for many with the performances he put in3. Woods? definately4. Stock? obviously5. Thomas? favoured ahead of Locky before injury6. Gillet? you agree7. Joe Mills, would be first choice if not injured and loan extension sorted.Do you reckon we should be able to take that degree of weakening and still not be suffering?So Martis and Thomas would have played? What about Killa? Dumbuya is a right back so you'd play him there and JOC at left back out of position? Woods definately with Stock, Oster, Coppinger and Gillet? Wouldn't work. Mills isn't here so he doesn't come into it.Look at it in reality, only 2 or 3 of the injured players would have made the starting line up today.The point is not that all of these would play, but they all would be (were) favoured ahead of players in the team presently... which is about the strength in depth.
i_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteMrFrost wrote:Quotei_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteMrFrost wrote:Quotei_ateallthepies wrote:QuoteTop of my head, we have seven players injured all of whom would probably be selected ahead of players in the team today.Get some perspective FFS!!!Who?Martis? Would he get in ahead of Lockwood? DoubtfulDumbuya? Would you play him in front of JOC? NoWoods? PossiblyStock? YesThomas? NoGillet? YesCan't think of who the other is, but there you have 2 maybe 3 who would have got into the team. Lets stop using injuries as an excuse and face facts.1. Martis? has been Sean's first choice2. Dumbuya? would be ahead of Chambo for many with the performances he put in3. Woods? definately4. Stock? obviously5. Thomas? favoured ahead of Locky before injury6. Gillet? you agree7. Joe Mills, would be first choice if not injured and loan extension sorted.Do you reckon we should be able to take that degree of weakening and still not be suffering?So Martis and Thomas would have played? What about Killa? Dumbuya is a right back so you'd play him there and JOC at left back out of position? Woods definately with Stock, Oster, Coppinger and Gillet? Wouldn't work. Mills isn't here so he doesn't come into it.Look at it in reality, only 2 or 3 of the injured players would have made the starting line up today.The point is not that all of these would play, but they all would be (were) favoured ahead of players in the team presently... which is about the strength in depth.Your original point is that they all would have played ahead of players selected today. They wouldn't. Martis and Thomas wouldn't have come in ahead of Killa. Dumbuya woudn't have come in ahead of JOC. You couldn't accomodate Woods, Stock, Gillet, Oster and Coppinger without dropping Sharp or Hayter which wouldn't have happened.I'm sick of hearing injuries as an excuse. Time we started putting right what is actually going wrong instead of blaming it on this that and the other.
One thing is for certain. It is absolutely essential we pick up all three points on Tuesday night.
Thinwhiteduke wrote:QuoteOne thing is for certain. It is absolutely essential we pick up all three points on Tuesday night.Not really essential is it. If we were to lose 10-0 on Tuesday, but then win our next 20 matches then our loss would pale into insignificance.................. therefore it ain't essential!It is like people asking for 110 percent - it's totally impossible, but people still want it ........................