How Seven Days Ruined the Reputation of Doncaster

[Jonathan]

How about a simple answer to all of the JR bashing that's going on right now -

JR made a simple mistake. He thought SOD could do something, then met with the other directors and changed his mind. The other directors perhaps then decided to pump more money in to ensure the clubs safety in the league. End of story.

- Forget the Mackay conspiracy theories
- No, SOD wasn't on board flight 190 and therefore knew his fate
- JR didn't have some long term strategy
- No-one is pulling any strings
- The world doesn't have to contain secrets and men wearing hoods meeting in dark woods to work


JR made a simple mistake - he changed his mind. You lot have been given the facts yet can't accept them. I just don't understand it. I totally trust JR, given his track record, and to suggest he's suddenly entered the \"dark side\" of football is a nonsense and actually, I find, quite rude.

It's great to debate what's happened, but the mud slinging at JR is not needed, is out of context, and is nothing more, I think, than disgruntled SOD worshippers who feel a bit ridiculous now for all their anger directed at people who never liked him over the past year. They feel foolish, so they are lashing out.

Can't anything happen in life without some conspiracy attached to it? I bet you lot - vivarovers, jonathon, et el - have ufo posters all round your houses, videos of the JFK shooting, and happen to think (Along with David Icke) that the queen is an intergalactic travelling lizard?!

Amusing retort as always, if a bit wide of the mark as a result.

I agree that we have reason to trust JR, he has been at the hub of the entire resurgence of the football club and nobody should argue that we are in an infinitely better place because of him. My simple point is that he promoted a particular way of working for this club and made considerable effort (often through Gartom) to bring supporters along with it. He (and Gartom) have gone to great lengths to outline a particular blueprint on how to run a small football club and build a certain reputation and model. There can be no doubt that the methodology is now undergoing a clear change, JR has even said so himself without going into any detail on the reasoning and foundation. I'm not saying that change is a bad thing, I'm just highlighting that it's bound to bring some concern.

If you spend so much time telling people to buy into one thing (even to the extent of going cap in hand to them for assistance in tough times) then you have to appreciate that they may have endorsed those values to the extent that adjusting to a different method raises questions.

It's been drilled into us that we have no money and we've constantly cited examples of clubs that have made rash decisions and suffered. On the face of it, the sudden shift from holding a raffle to bring in a kid, to making offers for players like Diouf and Chimbonda looks rash compared to the previous outlook that we were encouraged to understand and support. It's clearly not all about JR and not every question raised about the way the club is run should not be deemed as a sideswipe at JR.

I'm happy to roll with the change. I pay my money because I enjoy watching the football team and we all want to see success, I've come away from the last two games happier than I came away from some of the previous ones that's for sure. I'm merely saying that I can understand the basis of the questions asked because the scale of the changes leaves everyone open to it, deep down I think JR probably understands that and so do you.

[benaldo]

Hmm

I considered what you wrote for a while actually. Amazing, considering I never consider much for more than a nanosecond usually.

I think you are sort of agreeing with me. Yes, JR is beyond reproach, only a fool would consider otherwise. Yes, there has been some fantastic (my opinion) change at Rovers. I kind of get the feeling that deep down the sentiments that you, and others, are expressing are ones of sorrow. Sorrow; not at the way things have gone so much as sorrow for the fact that things have changed? You perhaps consider it \"change for changes sake\"?

While not always the most erudite and clear thinking poster on here, I like to think I've embraced this change and have worked out what it means and what has happened. No small task for an idiot like Benaldo, I hear you cry, but it honestly just seems so straight forward.

Man doesn't do well at football club for almost a year.
Same man isn't buying players when money is offered to him.
Exactly same human can't get a win and, more importantly, doesn't look like getting a win.
Players voice concern.
Fans voice concern.
Board voice concern.
Man sacked.
New man brought in at short notice (as was the case).
New player brought in (who happens to have the same agent as new manager)
Team win.
Some fans then start to see snipers on the hill above the keepmoat, men in dark trilbys hiding in the bushes outside the east stand reception, and castro supporters buying teddy bears in the club shop.


It is sort of laughable if you take a step back and try to look at it in a \"helicopter view\". Then again, history tells us that us humans don't like change, and more than that, we make up reasons for that change even if we don't know the facts -

Witch trials
bible
thunder being a god getting angry
the world is flat

I hope you all come round in the end, I'm sure you will. But for the time being I'd advise laying off JR a little as it's making some of you (not perhaps yourself Jonathon) look ungratefull, rude, stupid, and totally unsupportive of a man who single handedly saved our club and has propelled it to where we are today, for no other reason than he cares.

[wilts rover]

How about a simple answer to all of the JR bashing that's going on right now -

JR made a simple mistake. He thought SOD could do something, then met with the other directors and changed his mind. The other directors perhaps then decided to pump more money in to ensure the clubs safety in the league. End of story.

- Forget the Mackay conspiracy theories
- No, SOD wasn't on board flight 190 and therefore knew his fate
- JR didn't have some long term strategy
- No-one is pulling any strings
- The world doesn't have to contain secrets and men wearing hoods meeting in dark woods to work


JR made a simple mistake - he changed his mind. You lot have been given the facts yet can't accept them. I just don't understand it. I totally trust JR, given his track record, and to suggest he's suddenly entered the \"dark side\" of football is a nonsense and actually, I find, quite rude.

It's great to debate what's happened, but the mud slinging at JR is not needed, is out of context, and is nothing more, I think, than disgruntled SOD worshippers who feel a bit ridiculous now for all their anger directed at people who never liked him over the past year. They feel foolish, so they are lashing out.

Can't anything happen in life without some conspiracy attached to it? I bet you lot - vivarovers, jonathon, et el - have ufo posters all round your houses, videos of the JFK shooting, and happen to think (Along with David Icke) that the queen is an intergalactic travelling lizard?!

The keepmoat is NOT area 51..... It's a small run championship football club, with a passionate fan at it's head. You might want a bit of exciting \"cloak and dagger\" and mystery in your lives, but don't look to DRFC for it, try the local blockbusters instead.

since when was asking honest questions and asking for clarity 'mudslingling' and 'slagging off' - oh when its not you asking the questions of course? For the record I am fully supportive of JR and what he has done, if only because I dont have any better alternative - and I trust him on his record so far.

However there are questions to answer than can give more clarity to the situation, what happened to chnage JR's mind between Thursday morning and Thursday evening - whether they will come out or not, time will tell.

I will believe we have more money to invest and that Willie Mackay is not involved in any way when we sign players who he does not represent.

But when you become JR's main flagwaver, he'd better start to worry!

[timdrfc]

Hmm

I considered what you wrote for a while actually. Amazing, considering I never consider much for more than a nanosecond usually.

I think you are sort of agreeing with me. Yes, JR is beyond reproach, only a fool would consider otherwise. Yes, there has been some fantastic (my opinion) change at Rovers. I kind of get the feeling that deep down the sentiments that you, and others, are expressing are ones of sorrow. Sorrow; not at the way things have gone so much as sorrow for the fact that things have changed? You perhaps consider it \"change for changes sake\"?

While not always the most erudite and clear thinking poster on here, I like to think I've embraced this change and have worked out what it means and what has happened. No small task for an idiot like Benaldo, I hear you cry, but it honestly just seems so straight forward.

Man doesn't do well at football club for almost a year.
Same man isn't buying players when money is offered to him.
Exactly same human can't get a win and, more importantly, doesn't look like getting a win.
Players voice concern.
Fans voice concern.
Board voice concern.
Man sacked.
New man brought in at short notice (as was the case).
New player brought in (who happens to have the same agent as new manager)
Team win.
Some fans then start to see snipers on the hill above the keepmoat, men in dark trilbys hiding in the bushes outside the east stand reception, and castro supporters buying teddy bears in the club shop.


It is sort of laughable if you take a step back and try to look at it in a \"helicopter view\". Then again, history tells us that us humans don't like change, and more than that, we make up reasons for that change even if we don't know the facts -

Witch trials
bible
thunder being a god getting angry
the world is flat

I hope you all come round in the end, I'm sure you will. But for the time being I'd advise laying off JR a little as it's making some of you (not perhaps yourself Jonathon) look ungratefull, rude, stupid, and totally unsupportive of a man who single handedly saved our club and has propelled it to where we are today, for no other reason than he cares.

Top post again , make a change from reading the doom mongers & conspiracy theorist on here. keep em coming

[dumbroofer]

Benaldo my dear fella,
 you are fast becoming the dogs rollocks on here, imho.

[ravenrover]

Hmm

I considered what you wrote for a while actually. Amazing, considering I never consider much for more than a nanosecond usually.

I think you are sort of agreeing with me. Yes, JR is beyond reproach, only a fool would consider otherwise. Yes, there has been some fantastic (my opinion) change at Rovers. I kind of get the feeling that deep down the sentiments that you, and others, are expressing are ones of sorrow. Sorrow; not at the way things have gone so much as sorrow for the fact that things have changed? You perhaps consider it \"change for changes sake\"?

While not always the most erudite and clear thinking poster on here, I like to think I've embraced this change and have worked out what it means and what has happened. No small task for an idiot like Benaldo, I hear you cry, but it honestly just seems so straight forward.

Man doesn't do well at football club for almost a year.
Same man isn't buying players when money is offered to him.
Exactly same human can't get a win and, more importantly, doesn't look like getting a win.
Players voice concern.
Fans voice concern.
Board voice concern.
Man sacked.
New man brought in at short notice (as was the case).
New player brought in (who happens to have the same agent as new manager)
Team win.
Some fans then start to see snipers on the hill above the keepmoat, men in dark trilbys hiding in the bushes outside the east stand reception, and castro supporters buying teddy bears in the club shop.


It is sort of laughable if you take a step back and try to look at it in a \"helicopter view\". Then again, history tells us that us humans don't like change, and more than that, we make up reasons for that change even if we don't know the facts -

Witch trials
bible
thunder being a god getting angry
the world is flat

I hope you all come round in the end, I'm sure you will. But for the time being I'd advise laying off JR a little as it's making some of you (not perhaps yourself Jonathon) look ungratefull, rude, stupid, and totally unsupportive of a man who single handedly saved our club and has propelled it to where we are today, for no other reason than he cares.

Sorry Benny but you forgot the picket fence !!!!! Can't believe this but I've been agreeing with most of your posts over the past few weeks whilst on holiday down here in deepest Cornwall where it takes forever to load a page never mind respond to a comment.