Challenges on DROS now

[Chris]

Beye's challenge is more similar to the challenges by Kompany and Johnson and certainly not Dunk's.

[Filo]

Beye lunges off the ground, flying 2 feet through the air

How many times does it need to be pointed out? It was n`t two footed, his trailing leg is tucked under his arse, he got to the ball before Skuse and was on the ground at the point of contact! if thats a red card, then every defender that throws himself in front of a shot to make a block should be red carded as well. The ref got it wrong and the lino abstained from making a decision, as usual!

[Thinwhiteduke]

Not even going to bother watching it...pointless. As pointless as the Club putting it on line in the first place.

It has no influence on Beyes Red Card - justified or not, it has no influence on punishment for the guy who headbutted Copps.

Way things are going the FA will either fine us or issue some other sanction for our constant bitching and moaning about referees. Let it go FFS.

[DRFC_TID_93]

Having watched the replay for Beye's tackle, and I'm not defending him for a minute as it was a reckless tackle, am I the only one noticing how the Bristol player has no control over the ball, Beye gets there first and the Bristol player goes into the side of Beye with his studs showing? Surely that's dangerous too?

[benaldo]

I just think \"How can you send off a player who gets to the ball first and then has the other player run into him?\". It's bizarre! It's like saying \"I'm running along thinking I'm going to kick you on the leg, but I won't go through with it. What's that, I'm getting sent off????!\"

Ridiculous. It's a man's game, no-one was hurt and to be honest, Beye got the ball to the extent the linesman awarded a throw in!! Things like this should be dealt with by consultation with the nearest official and then reviewed again after the match to decide any further punishment or to change the original decision. It's not asking much really is it and it's not rocket science!

[wilts rover]

Yannick Bolaise is looking at the ball as he goes in for the challenge, it is very clumsy, but it looks a lot worse than he is, we all know Coppinger is on the fragile side and these sorts of fouls look worse than the reality of it; he dives in for a header late and connects with Coppinger. I think a yellow would be fair, I can even understand the red. What possessed the referee to not give a card I don't know, but it happens in football. I think what makes the situation worse is Bolaise just shurgs his shoulders as if he is innocent, had he bent down and comforted Coppinger we may not be having this conversation.

We all know that do we? A bloke who played for 15 minutes with a broken cheekbone, during which time he was getting from one end of the pitch to the other, creating a chance at one end, blocking at the other and not shirking tackles - I think the last i would call him is fragile. We have one or two 'fragile' players but Coppinger is one of the last I would put on the list, he gets kicked as much as anyone - but also puts in as many tackles as any of our forward players. Thats what I know.

What that photo doesnt show you are the angles, direction and timing, Coppinger has already headed the ball and the time and direction Bolasie is coming in at - he has no chance of getting it, its already gone and he is going straight for Coppinger.

[Mr1Croft]

Beye lunges off the ground, flying 2 feet through the air

How many times does it need to be pointed out? It was n`t two footed, his trailing leg is tucked under his arse, he got to the ball before Skuse and was on the ground at the point of contact! if thats a red card, then every defender that throws himself in front of a shot to make a block should be red carded as well. The ref got it wrong and the lino abstained from making a decision, as usual!

Whether his legs were tucked or not, both feet left the ground and followed a motion of path similar to a projectile launched at 30 degrees inclined the the ground. Both feet left the ground for a ball that was moving along the floor.

[hoolahoop]

Sorry you're wrong on this one Crofty for the reasons pointed out by both Filo and BST, this is a contact sport , imo it was neither reckless or dangerous at the point of contact end of. That's what the lino clearly saw from a few yards away and that's certainly what I saw on the film. The referee merely responds to the crowd , at a distance , not the players of either side or the official in line with the incident.

[Mr1Croft]

Sorry you're wrong on this one Crofty for the reasons pointed out by both Filo and BST, this is a contact sport , imo it was neither reckless or dangerous at the point of contact end of. That's what the lino clearly saw from a few yards away and that's certainly what I saw on the film. The referee merely responds to the crowd , at a distance , not the players of either side or the official in line with the incident.

I just think in the last few years they have cracked down on players leaving the ground when challenging for the ball on the ground, it wasn't a block as such it was an interception, one that was too close to another player. You have two ways of looking it:

Borderline dive that is half a second from danger - perfectly timed no action. Or;
A lunge with both feet off the ground (regardless if tucked or not) for a 50-50 where the ball is rolling along the floor - Red Card.

I can see both arguements and it clearly is 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, my personal opinion is it was a red (from the refs view) but I agree had he seen it from a different angle he may have been more lenient.