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Norfolk N Chance

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McKay and wonderful interview
« on April 18, 2012, 07:33:01 pm by Norfolk N Chance »



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donnyroversfc

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #1 on April 18, 2012, 07:39:35 pm by donnyroversfc »
Whats wonderful about it?

streatham dave

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #2 on April 18, 2012, 07:42:55 pm by streatham dave »
I know I'm in a very small minority but I like McKay and I have always believed he has/had the best interests of the club at heart. Some people just never gave him a chance because of unfounded issues with his past. He is connected to the club through locality and his sons.

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #3 on April 18, 2012, 09:44:06 pm by Fulham Rover »
I am with you on that one Dave I have never had an issue with either him or the experiment. Although never agreed with the appointment of Saunders. However that was not the reason we went down we went down because majority of the players didn't perform this season namely the likes of Copps, Oster, Stock et al. A major clear out is what is needed.

Norfolk N Chance

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #4 on April 18, 2012, 10:18:40 pm by Norfolk N Chance »
Done as good as he could have?

agreed

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« Reply #5 on April 18, 2012, 10:21:40 pm by Red wizard »
A good honest interview imo. Didn't have to do it. Cheers for trying Mr Mckay and J,R for giving it a go. Was worth a go imo as we didn't have the money to bring players in to help us out and this was the only option. Given we would of gone down anyway imo it was worth it.

Norfolk N Chance

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #6 on April 18, 2012, 10:23:30 pm by Norfolk N Chance »
I am with you on that one Dave I have never had an issue with either him or the experiment. Although never agreed with the appointment of Saunders. However that was not the reason we went down we went down because majority of the players didn't perform this season namely the likes of Copps, Oster, Stock et al. A major clear out is what is needed.

Agree with every word ....

Norfolk N Chance

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #7 on April 18, 2012, 10:26:26 pm by Norfolk N Chance »
I would like us to keep McKay at the club...

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #8 on April 18, 2012, 10:34:18 pm by AbsolutDRFC »
I would like us to keep McKay at the club...

I would, although no one can say that the following were any good;
Bamoko
Bagayoko
Plessis
Diatta
Chimbonda
Beye (although it would be difficult to be worse than Deadwood or Martis)

To be fair, the only selfless players we had were Fortune and Robert. Diouf worked his socks off as an individual, but not for the team.

Button and Ikeme were also better than what we had.

I'm sure Willie McKay tried; unfortunately the players he brought in didn't appear to try as hard he did.

However we were screwed from the start of the season anyway.
What the fcuk SOD did, bringing in clowns like Barnes, Bennett, Radford, Naylor etc... That set the seal on the season.....

Norfolk N Chance

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #9 on April 18, 2012, 10:43:43 pm by Norfolk N Chance »
I would like us to keep McKay at the club...

I would, although no one can say that the following were any good;
Bamoko
Bagayoko
Plessis
Diatta
Chimbonda
Beye (although it would be difficult to be worse than Deadwood or Martis)

To be fair, the only selfless players we had were Fortune and Robert. Diouf worked his socks off as an individual, but not for the team.

Button and Ikeme were also better than what we had.

I'm sure Willie McKay tried; unfortunately the players he brought in didn't appear to try as hard he did.

However we were screwed from the start of the season anyway.
What the fcuk SOD did, bringing in clowns like Barnes, Bennett, Radford, Naylor etc... That set the seal on the season.....

Good balanced post mate!

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #10 on April 18, 2012, 10:55:35 pm by Chris Black come back »
I would like us to keep McKay at the club...

I would, although no one can say that the following were any good;
Bamoko
Bagayoko
Plessis
Diatta
Chimbonda
Beye (although it would be difficult to be worse than Deadwood or Martis)

To be fair, the only selfless players we had were Fortune and Robert. Diouf worked his socks off as an individual, but not for the team.

Button and Ikeme were also better than what we had.

I'm sure Willie McKay tried; unfortunately the players he brought in didn't appear to try as hard he did.

However we were screwed from the start of the season anyway.
What the fcuk SOD did, bringing in clowns like Barnes, Bennett, Radford, Naylor etc... That set the seal on the season.....

Think you are a bit unfair here. Chimbonda was a good solid right back. Jimmy was out of form and Chimbonda but a solid shift in. Beye is by far our most talented centre back. If he hadn't been such a clown with tackles and been suspended for such a long period he would have been able to build up a better understanding with Sam Hird. Rest admittedly jury out at best but the laddy Bagayoko always put a shift in and to score twice away at Elland Road was more than Billy managed....

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #11 on April 18, 2012, 11:00:41 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Bit hard on Bennett, he's had some decent games and some off games but at the end of the day he's still young and learning.

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #12 on April 19, 2012, 01:11:56 am by RobTheRover »
Agreed, Oh Mormon one.

Having said that, Chimbonda only looked fully interested in a couple of games and Ilunga just wasnt very good, in the final analysis.


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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #13 on April 19, 2012, 07:06:21 am by eastender »
Willie  makes a good point about how we and other lower league clubs should be getting paid for educating the big clubs youngsters instead of us paying them for their services.
It's no wonder the likes of Mason and Lalkovic were sent packing , 4 grand a week each for a couple of bench warmers one of which had never even played a professional league game in his life until we gave him a chance , That's just crazy.   :ohmy:
 I don't blame the 2 lads at all because they both showed promise , but for there combined wages of  8k we could probably have got an half decent striker on loan , which we needed at that time.

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #14 on April 19, 2012, 08:37:13 am by Red Rover »
Suprised to hear McKay bigging Dean Saunders up?! Saying he is a class manager...

(trying to keep his client in a job?!)

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #15 on April 19, 2012, 09:26:45 am by grayx »
Suprised to hear McKay bigging Dean Saunders up?! Saying he is a class manager...

(trying to keep his client in a job?!)

Sorry, but still not convinced by this bloke . Perhaps its his reputation he had before he got involved with Rovers but something just doesn't fit right. Would you buy a car off this man?

donnyroversfc

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #16 on April 19, 2012, 12:42:35 pm by donnyroversfc »
I wouldn't buy a car off him (i cant drive).

I wouldn't even buy my fruit & veg from him if he decided to open a grocery shop next door to my house.

I still don't know whats meant to be wonderful about the interview?

Donnybob

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #17 on April 19, 2012, 01:24:57 pm by Donnybob »
I try to keep an open mind on most things (Saunders excepted) and I genuinely see McKay as a potential asset to the club because whether you care to accept it or not he has good contacts within the game and he's clearly a powerful negotiator. At the end of the day he's a fan like the rest of us.

Going forward I don't see him pursuing the experiment - although it's a 2-year deal - but I can see him introducing the odd useful player here and there.

I took two interesting points from his interview:

1. 'When I came in we knew Billy Sharp was leaving'. Which suggests the improved contract offer was a sham and cashing in on his exit wasn't handled as well as it might have been. After all, we could have had £3m in August.

2. 'SO'd had been for 3 or 4 interviews'. Really? Can he name the 4 clubs that he actually went for an interview at. Be honest, he would have been a fool not to listen to what Burnley were offering, their next game was, after all, at Old Trafford and it's only by listening to what other clubs think you are worth that you can establish your true value.

Did SO'D actually apply for and attend 3 other interviews? Or was that just speculation in the press and other clubs coveting him.

Sounds like support and justification for Saunders rather than an objective view of the previous manager. The thing is, if the decision to sack SO'D and appoint Saunders was the correct one, and they handled it well, why does the club keep harking back to it? Why is the club so eager to blame the previous manager who delivered success and football beyond my wildest dreams yet blindly support a man who has relegated us in his first season despite having the Harlem Globetrotters at his disposal and a record that currently reads one win in 20 games.

Strikes me it's the folk who hounded SO'D out of the club who need to get over him, not those who have fond memories of his time here and pride in the reputation he gave us. We accept he's gone and wish him well even though we feel the new regime has delivered nothing more than promises, dismal failure and a totally uncertain future.

If anyone thinks Saunders is going to pull any trees up in League One with an inferior squad then cast your mind back to Round 3 of the FA Cup when he gained his first experience of football at that level against Notts County.

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #18 on April 19, 2012, 01:30:24 pm by Filo »
Willie  makes a good point about how we and other lower league clubs should be getting paid for educating the big clubs youngsters instead of us paying them for their services.
It's no wonder the likes of Mason and Lalkovic were sent packing , 4 grand a week each for a couple of bench warmers one of which had never even played a professional league game in his life until we gave him a chance , That's just crazy.   :ohmy:
 I don't blame the 2 lads at all because they both showed promise , but for there combined wages of  8k we could probably have got an half decent striker on loan , which we needed at that time.


£5k if they did n`t play!!

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #19 on April 19, 2012, 03:52:09 pm by Alickismyhero »
I try to keep an open mind on most things (Saunders excepted) and I genuinely see McKay as a potential asset to the club because whether you care to accept it or not he has good contacts within the game and he's clearly a powerful negotiator. At the end of the day he's a fan like the rest of us.

Going forward I don't see him pursuing the experiment - although it's a 2-year deal - but I can see him introducing the odd useful player here and there.

I took two interesting points from his interview:

1. 'When I came in we knew Billy Sharp was leaving'. Which suggests the improved contract offer was a sham and cashing in on his exit wasn't handled as well as it might have been. After all, we could have had £3m in August.

2. 'SO'd had been for 3 or 4 interviews'. Really? Can he name the 4 clubs that he actually went for an interview at. Be honest, he would have been a fool not to listen to what Burnley were offering, their next game was, after all, at Old Trafford and it's only by listening to what other clubs think you are worth that you can establish your true value.

Did SO'D actually apply for and attend 3 other interviews? Or was that just speculation in the press and other clubs coveting him.

Sounds like support and justification for Saunders rather than an objective view of the previous manager. The thing is, if the decision to sack SO'D and appoint Saunders was the correct one, and they handled it well, why does the club keep harking back to it? Why is the club so eager to blame the previous manager who delivered success and football beyond my wildest dreams yet blindly support a man who has relegated us in his first season despite having the Harlem Globetrotters at his disposal and a record that currently reads one win in 20 games.

Strikes me it's the folk who hounded SO'D out of the club who need to get over him, not those who have fond memories of his time here and pride in the reputation he gave us. We accept he's gone and wish him well even though we feel the new regime has delivered nothing more than promises, dismal failure and a totally uncertain future.

If anyone thinks Saunders is going to pull any trees up in League One with an inferior squad then cast your mind back to Round 3 of the FA Cup when he gained his first experience of football at that level against Notts County.


Bob,
A lot of what you have said is 100% right. I will also say that the truth about Sean's departure will come out in the very near future, how do I know? lets wait and see. Just stand back and listen to the defensive stories from JR, McKay and Deano "Its not our fault it was all Sean O'Driscoll's" You can fool some of the supporters some of the time but not all of us all of the time"
All I ask is for this trio to stop pointing the finger at Sean and remember that because of a clause in his contract he cannot defend himself.

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #20 on April 19, 2012, 05:18:02 pm by albie »
A view from the outside on DRFC and Mckay, from Two Hundred Percent;
http://www.twohundredpercent.net/?p=18284

donnyroversfc

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Re: McKay and wonderful interview
« Reply #21 on April 19, 2012, 07:39:17 pm by donnyroversfc »
Anyone know where i can find this wonderful McKay interview?

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« Reply #22 on April 19, 2012, 07:57:59 pm by graingrover »
I enjoyed the first hand interview and continue to support Jr's judgement of mcKay

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« Reply #23 on April 19, 2012, 10:28:19 pm by hoolahoop »
I enjoyed the first hand interview and continue to support Jr's judgement of mcKay

I do too but not of Saunders.

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« Reply #24 on April 20, 2012, 05:01:04 pm by cmonyoureds »
i know mckay and do like the guy and know he put effort in slagging sods signings off is a bit naughty you go find some players that will sign for peanuts and cost you nothing really annoys me how many people think its so easy to deal with footballers

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« Reply #25 on April 21, 2012, 11:22:12 am by Jonathan »
I haven't yet listented to this wonderful interview but I'm assuming it stacks up with what he said in this one:

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster/willie_mckay_exclusive_i_ve_never_done_anything_wrong_apart_from_be_successful_1_3972240

Take particular note of: "“If I didn’t think we could move the club up the table, I wouldn’t have agreed to do what I have agreed to do"

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« Reply #26 on April 21, 2012, 01:05:02 pm by donnyroversfc »
'i've never done anything wrong apart from be successful'.

So breaking an FA regulation in regards to the transfer of Benjani was not wrong then? 

 

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