Give Saunders a chance

[BobG]

There was a soundbite from some oik I hate in the Mail on Sunday or the Mail, I forget which, and I loathe that odious tabloid at the best of times stating how MacKay recommended/suggested Saunders appointment

Thank you Capmeister. Many on here will remember my remarks over the last several months about how that Welsh person was appointed. Of course, an awful lot of people knew better than me though....  I wonder how long before the truth of various other observations starts to sink in?

I never cease to be amazed how few people can reach a rational conclusion from bits of evidence that become public over a period of time.

BobG

[Chris]

There was a soundbite from some oik I hate in the Mail on Sunday or the Mail, I forget which, and I loathe that odious tabloid at the best of times stating how MacKay recommended/suggested Saunders appointment

Thank you Capmeister. Many on here will remember my remarks over the last several months about how that Welsh muppet was appointed. Of course, an awful lot of people knew better than me though....  I wonder how long before the truth of various other observations starts to sink in?

I never cease to be amazed how few people can reach a rational conclusion from bits of evidence evidence that become public over a period of time.

BobG

I thought it was pretty obvious that Saunders' only received the job because of McKay's involvement with the club. Obviously it's not something I can prove but I'd be stunned if it was ever proved that this was not the case.

One baffling aspect of this was the decision to give Saunders a 3-year contract when McKay's involvement with the club was only guaranteed for the one season. The board MUST regret that decision now.

[dickos1]

Bob your conclusion is far from rational

[markusparkus75]

Something in The Daily Mail is evidence now?

[Chris]

Something in The Daily Mail is evidence now?

Some of the national newspapers have been a better source for information on DRFC other the past season than our own official website, this website and John Ryan.

[Filo]

Something in The Daily Mail is evidence now?

Some of the national newspapers have been a better source for information on DRFC other the past season than our own official website, this website and John Ryan.

This website is not a media portal, it`s here by the fans, for the fans, for discussion and debate surrounding the club. Other areas of this website focus on issues involving the VSC

[markusparkus75]

Something in The Daily Mail is evidence now?

Some of the national newspapers have been a better source for information on DRFC other the past season than our own official website, this website and John Ryan.

I work with the press. I've even been interviewed in the Mail a few times. I wouldn't believe a damn word any of them print to be fair.

[Chris]

Something in The Daily Mail is evidence now?

Some of the national newspapers have been a better source for information on DRFC other the past season than our own official website, this website and John Ryan.

I work with the press. I've even been interviewed in the Mail a few times. I wouldn't believe a damn word any of them print to be fair.

Normally I would agree but it seemed like McKay had some links with the press, particularly the Mail which he done a couple of interviews for during his time with us. The Mirror reported the dismissal of SO'D and the hiring of Saunders before any of us had a clue it would happen. The Mail was the first newspaper to go into any real detail on the experiment thanks to a McKay interview.

[roversam]

Dean Saunders aka Welsh Dwarf, Welsh Muppett, Welsh Person, what will the next name be Bob G, do i detect you are a Welsh hater, if he was English would you call him an English Dwarf etc etc, just an observation Bob. 

[pubteam]

Dean Saunders aka Welsh Dwarf, Welsh Muppett, Welsh Person, what will the next name be Bob G, do i detect you are a Welsh hater, if he was English would you call him an English Dwarf etc etc, just an observation Bob. 

You've got to be an Irish brummie to be accepted here I think.

[DearneValleyRover]

As a player Dean Saunders was a winner, I doubt his attitude as a manager has changed, he will still have a winning mentality. The question is does he have the ability, he has the qualification's and experience but the way he was appointed seems to have poisoned some people toward him. He is being hamstrung by contracts given out before his appointment and by the boards refusal to allow him to sign until some players move on.

I would like to judge him on the team he has put together, the same as I judged all previous managers to Dean. The continued sniping, ITK, point scoring debates that are being conducted on here are beyon tedious now.

If some out there do know things which they deem could harm the long term future of the club, I hope they have informed the VSC directorate considering the fact that it was one of the reason's it was set up, if not the main one.   

[dickos1]

Where is donnybob these days, cause an awful lot of those quotes that Saunders stated have now become true.
He said he'd get it right and the welsh dwarf did exactly what he said..

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

And I started this thread and I'll say one thing to the board, they backed him alright in the end.

[Dutch Uncle]

Dean Saunders aka Welsh Dwarf, Welsh Muppett, Welsh Person, what will the next name be Bob G, do i detect you are a Welsh hater, if he was English would you call him an English Dwarf etc etc, just an observation Bob. 

As a Welshman and a long standing friend of BobG I think I can refute your allegation of Bob as a Cymru-phobe 

[dickos1]

Some of the posts from people back then stating they knew we were f**ked etc etc etc, are very funny indeed

[Alonzo Drake]

Well done Dickos for reviving this thread! It has made enjoyable reading, and demonstrates how much Saunders was disliked, and how he was blamed for the McKay debacle. He has shown us in just half a season how he can choose and motivate players. It certainly looked last July as if we were heading straight back to D4 in the same fashion as after our 57/58 relegation from D2. If Curbishley takes over at Molineux as many expect, more big clubs will come bidding for Saunders. Hope he stays though to take us into D1 -- Blackpool, Wigan, Burnley and Hull are hardly fashionable clubs, but they made into into D1 -- and Wigan have stayed. Dean could take is into D1, unlike Wolves who are in freefall, and I bet that JR is stressing that to Dean right now.

[BillyStubbsTears]

There's a good few people on here have some serious helpings of Humble Pie to eat. It can be a cathartic experience. I know because I was one of the most vitriolic posters against O'Driscoll during our grim period in 2007 when we seemed incapable of getting a team on the pitch that knew where second gear was.

Back then, I would have danced a jig if we'd booted O'Driscoll out. I thought he was a bullshitter, developing a side that put cautious ball-possession for it's own sake above everything.

I was wrong. He proved me wrong by fine tuning the side, making a couple of personnel changed and developing a purring Ferrari, where I'd only seen a 1960s Volvo estate.

I apologised at the time and felt better for it.

So come on folks. Time for a bit of Truth & Reconcilliation. Come on down if you want to apologise for the bile you heaped on Saunders's head 6-12 months back. It's good for the soul.

[Chris Black come back]

I thought he was a bullshitter, developing a side that put cautious ball-possession for it's own sake above everything.

Errm?

[BillyStubbsTears]

I thought he was a bullshitter, developing a side that put cautious ball-possession for it's own sake above everything.

Errm?

CBCB. I STILL think that that is his foundation state. But in both 07/08 and 08/09, a beautiful butterfly of a quick-breaking, accurate-passing, devastatingly dangerous side emerged from Xmas onwards and we took the division by storm. Then, by Autumn 2010, he had perfected the approach and for a while we were quite wonderfully free-flowing, quick witted and quickly-attacking in our approach.

Look back to Xmas 2010 and heave a sigh for what might have been. With better luck with injuries, we could well now be Swansea.

[Chris Black come back]

I thought he was a bullshitter, developing a side that put cautious ball-possession for it's own sake above everything.

Errm?

CBCB. I STILL think that that is his foundation state. But in both 07/08 and 08/09, a beautiful butterfly of a quick-breaking, accurate-passing, devastatingly dangerous side emerged from Xmas onwards and we took the division by storm. Then, by Autumn 2010, he had perfected the approach and for a while we were quite wonderfully free-flowing, quick witted and quickly-attacking in our approach.

Look back to Xmas 2010 and heave a sigh for what might have been. With better luck with injuries, we could well now be Swansea.

I buy some of this BST but I know Swansea City, I have seen Swansea City, Swansea City was a friend of mine, Doncaster Rovers are no Swansea City.

We could never hope for their attendances, even in the Premier League. Football maybe, but none of the rest of it I am afraid.

[graingrover]

this thread is very good to read and reveals who are the negative elements perfectly ... though I guess we all know then anyway .. for me TOP of he League table has to be Mr Frost with the embittered Bob G a close second.

[DonnyOsmond]

I thought he was a bullshitter, developing a side that put cautious ball-possession for it's own sake above everything.

Errm?

CBCB. I STILL think that that is his foundation state. But in both 07/08 and 08/09, a beautiful butterfly of a quick-breaking, accurate-passing, devastatingly dangerous side emerged from Xmas onwards and we took the division by storm. Then, by Autumn 2010, he had perfected the approach and for a while we were quite wonderfully free-flowing, quick witted and quickly-attacking in our approach.

Look back to Xmas 2010 and heave a sigh for what might have been. With better luck with injuries, we could well now be Swansea.

I buy some of this BST but I know Swansea City, I have seen Swansea City, Swansea City was a friend of mine, Doncaster Rovers are no Swansea City.

We could never hope for their attendances, even in the Premier League. Football maybe, but none of the rest of it I am afraid.

Why can we never get their attendances? We've got a 300,000+ catchment area.

[Chris Black come back]

Bob G is an interesting one. Maybe the excellent and crucial work he put in during the Richardson years has affected him in some way. He seems to see conspiracies, plots and subtefuge around every corner. Would be a good subject for A Level or even undergraduate Psychology students.

[Chris Black come back]

I thought he was a bullshitter, developing a side that put cautious ball-possession for it's own sake above everything.

Errm?

CBCB. I STILL think that that is his foundation state. But in both 07/08 and 08/09, a beautiful butterfly of a quick-breaking, accurate-passing, devastatingly dangerous side emerged from Xmas onwards and we took the division by storm. Then, by Autumn 2010, he had perfected the approach and for a while we were quite wonderfully free-flowing, quick witted and quickly-attacking in our approach.

Look back to Xmas 2010 and heave a sigh for what might have been. With better luck with injuries, we could well now be Swansea.

I buy some of this BST but I know Swansea City, I have seen Swansea City, Swansea City was a friend of mine, Doncaster Rovers are no Swansea City.

We could never hope for their attendances, even in the Premier League. Football maybe, but none of the rest of it I am afraid.

Why can we never get their attendances? We've got a 300,000+ catchment area.

1. The evidence of decades and decades of shite attendances.

2. The close to 300,000 Doncaster conurbation is largely made up of Leeds, Wednesday, Blades, Dingles and Man Utd fans. Can't count on any of them.

[dickos1]

We will rue the day Saunders was ever set on. Mark my words. I've been to 2 games now and Saunders has proven clueless in both. The back four, well what passes for one, were woeful. Didnt Deano promise to sort this way back. News for ya Deano, it's worse now than when you took over. Stock wasnt interested but he's arguably on his way. Woods played like a prima donna. He had an air of 'I've been playing in the Championship, y'know'. Hello Woodsey, no-one fecking cares. Least of all the Millers players. Copps not even there. Says everything. O'Connor was turned inside out. Bennett, ur not in the Championship now. Get off the deck and play football, instead of rolling around like you've been shot by a sniper. Syers, needs time but would suggest Saunders pre-season prep has been a joke. In comparison the Millers looked like a team ready to start the season. OK so they are direct but the fat Eddie Izzard's team don't muck about. They turned up the heat after Cotterill's super strike and they're a division below us. Not for long though, we'll pass 'em on the way down. Woods the goalie. Jesus, Mr Calamity. 1st competitive match and we'll get bombed. Get ready for more of the same against Wednesday SatD. Sadly, we've taken a huge stride backward.

On a positive note Husband did well. Son, I suggest you look for a better club. Don't get dragged down by El Muppeto, Saunders. Sadly, I have to put up with this well dressed clown as I watch him destroy my club and give excuse after excuse......I've no money, the injury list, the squad. I'm just a poor Welshman doing his best. FECK OFF!!!!!!!

This has just made me piss myself,

Don't you feel silly now

[Chris Black come back]

That is absolute solid gold!

[MachoMadness]

This thread is gold. Can we sticky it?

[DonnyOsmond]

I thought he was a bullshitter, developing a side that put cautious ball-possession for it's own sake above everything.

Errm?

CBCB. I STILL think that that is his foundation state. But in both 07/08 and 08/09, a beautiful butterfly of a quick-breaking, accurate-passing, devastatingly dangerous side emerged from Xmas onwards and we took the division by storm. Then, by Autumn 2010, he had perfected the approach and for a while we were quite wonderfully free-flowing, quick witted and quickly-attacking in our approach.

Look back to Xmas 2010 and heave a sigh for what might have been. With better luck with injuries, we could well now be Swansea.

I buy some of this BST but I know Swansea City, I have seen Swansea City, Swansea City was a friend of mine, Doncaster Rovers are no Swansea City.

We could never hope for their attendances, even in the Premier League. Football maybe, but none of the rest of it I am afraid.

Why can we never get their attendances? We've got a 300,000+ catchment area.

1. The evidence of decades and decades of shite attendances.

2. The close to 300,000 Doncaster conurbation is largely made up of Leeds, Wednesday, Blades, Dingles and Man Utd fans. Can't count on any of them.

If we were in the Premier League I'm sure we would steal some fans from the bigger clubs, especially the glory supporters. Swansea get 20,000 supporters. After 2/3 years around the Premier League I could see us easily getting that.