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When saunders came to us and Wolves he had all this talk about the playoffs, then got us relegated and has led wolves from mid table to second from bottom. It's one thing saying things it's another actually doing them.
Quote from: drfcsteve on April 16, 2013, 01:42:33 pmWhen saunders came to us and Wolves he had all this talk about the playoffs, then got us relegated and has led wolves from mid table to second from bottom. It's one thing saying things it's another actually doing them.I'm sorry but Wolves were not mid-table when he took over.
Quote from: drfcsteve on April 16, 2013, 01:42:33 pmWhen saunders came to us and Wolves he had all this talk about the playoffs, then got us relegated and has led wolves from mid table to second from bottom. It's one thing saying things it's another actually doing them.Don't talk b*llocks they were in decline when he got there. Your f***ing hero's done brill for City, eh?
Funny how Bristol were doomed but wolves were midtable
Yeah. SOD had it tough with that team with a £25 million wage bill.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 16, 2013, 10:43:57 pmYeah. SOD had it tough with that team with a £25 million wage bill. I think it's closer to £18m. Regardless, that Bristol City squad is terrible and it was terrible before SO'D took over.
Quote from: Chris on April 16, 2013, 11:19:13 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 16, 2013, 10:43:57 pmYeah. SOD had it tough with that team with a £25 million wage bill. I think it's closer to £18m. Regardless, that Bristol City squad is terrible and it was terrible before SO'D took over.Aye. And that Forest squad he inherited, that included Camp, Collins, Guerdioura, Reid, Blackstock, Tudgay, McGugan, McGoldrick, Majewski etc, etc. Apparently that was crap as well. And clearly the Rovers squad he inherited was crap. The one that had just gone into the last match of the season with a chance if the play-offs, and had Roberts, O'Connor and Lockwood added in the close season.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 17, 2013, 08:49:45 amQuote from: Chris on April 16, 2013, 11:19:13 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on April 16, 2013, 10:43:57 pmYeah. SOD had it tough with that team with a £25 million wage bill. I think it's closer to £18m. Regardless, that Bristol City squad is terrible and it was terrible before SO'D took over.Aye. And that Forest squad he inherited, that included Camp, Collins, Guerdioura, Reid, Blackstock, Tudgay, McGugan, McGoldrick, Majewski etc, etc. Apparently that was crap as well. And clearly the Rovers squad he inherited was crap. The one that had just gone into the last match of the season with a chance if the play-offs, and had Roberts, O'Connor and Lockwood added in the close season.I'd argue he did fairly well at Forest before being sacked incredibly harshly. Forest weren't bottom at the half-way point of the season when he took over either. We also weren't bottom at the half-way point of the season when he took over. There was a massive difference between the circumstances in which SO'D took over at Doncaster and Forest and the circumstances which he found himself at Bristol City. I genuinely don't believe that anyone could have kept that Bristol City team up this season. I said as much when O'Driscoll got the job.
SO'D was never appointed to keep City up, that much was obvious. He was appointed because he has a reputation (whether you think it's deserved or not) for delivering attractive football on a moderate budget. They clearly want to go down so they can have a clearout, but want a firm footing on which they can rebuild from scratch. Of course, whether the SO'D model of football can actually be sustained on low/moderate budget a few years down the line is another debate, certainly he couldn't manage that here.I don't understand why people seem to be jumping on Deano though, after all he did for us. Yeah, he took us down. We were in freefall anyway. Does anybody remember the last 8 months or so under SO'D? I certainly do. That football 'identity' that everyone bangs on about was nowhere to be seen, unless our identity was as a team who'd pass it along the back four for 20 seconds then lump it up to Sharp/Euell/Brown/Moussa etc. We were heading nowhere fast. SO'D was undoubtedly the greatest manager we had in my lifetime, but he had plenty of faults and they eventually all caught up with him at once. Deano was the right man for the job, I'm glad we went down under Saunders because nobody was keeping us up and Deano was absolutely the perfect man to take us back up again, this time stronger. He had a vision of a successful team at this level and he built that team just as well as SO'D did back in 07/08.SO'D and Saunders are two different people with different football philosophies, neither of them gave us an 'identity' because DRFC should have it's own identity. They've both been successful in their own way, and I'm sure they have and will both fail in their own ways too. Saunders' legacy with Rovers is every bit as important as Sean O'Driscoll's.